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Postby Southerner » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:33 pm

shahmaran wrote:the point here is that they are using the notion of god to convince people like yourself and bomb innocent people while the real agenda is imperialism and oil! It is absurd beyond comprehension that people buy this junk!

This is where mischievous cretins like you cause division, the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan had nothing to do with Christianity; nor did the west use this as an incitement, it is people like you who keep interjecting the Christian v muslim angle who are the real culprits
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Postby Southerner » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:41 pm

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shahmaran wrote:Well that is a very controversial example Cheshire Cat, it has become VERY clear to the world that the 9/11 incident is far from what it seems or has been claimed to be, but it was a good enough excuse for the Christian world to bomb 2 countries into oblivion


Your usual garbage of course; it was not the Christian world that attacked afghanistan. Stop trying to involve Christianity in the issue of islamic barbarity/backwardness.


Right, Afghanistan wasnt the first place to be bombed right after 9/11, ye? I believe the coaltion forces are still there.

And i guess you have forgotten about how Russia fought the Afghans for years while the US was backing the Taliban, in fact that's how they became to be so powerful and had been torturing and publicly executing the Afghan people for years, including banning music and treating women like dogs, THESE WERE THE ALLIES OF THE VERY CHRISTIAN AMERICA!!

Plus lets not even begin to talk about what the Russians have been doing to the Chechen's.

So is all this "usual garbage" then my friend? I seriously advise you to put down the bible and instead get a real book with solid facts on life so that people can actually take you seriously.

This is not about Muslim vs. Christianity, its about Christianity being just as shit as the next one, which is what i have been trying to defend since the beginning, its all the same to me, absolutely useless...


Firstly this issue is not about Christianity, got that!

It's just that your only pathetic argument is to involve Christianity and misconstrue much of what is written

You'r such a sad person. the Russian Orthadox was virtualy outlawed under communism.
What a moron you are to keep saying that evrything that the west does is carried out under the banner of Christianity of Christ
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:37 pm

Errr, actually it was directed to the other moron who keeps claiming that it is the Christian world that has all the arts and all the technological advancements that is meant to be good for humanity, while despising and putting forward stupid allegations about all the Muslim countries. I'm just merely pointing out the fact that, although that might be true, they also have a SHIT load of blood on their hands, got that smarty pants?

So you cant have it all, either its ALL Christian or its not. :)
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Postby Southerner » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:29 pm

shahmaran wrote:Errr, actually it was directed to the other moron who keeps claiming that it is the Christian world that has all the arts and all the technological advancements that is meant to be good for humanity, while despising and putting forward stupid allegations about all the Muslim countries. I'm just merely pointing out the fact that, although that might be true, they also have a SHIT load of blood on their hands, got that smarty pants?

So you cant have it all, either its ALL Christian or its not. :)

I totaly agree that the term 'Christian World' is a missuse but I understand the meaning behind the remark, but once again you can't be serious about your closing sentence, it doesn't have to be 'all or none Christian' that is where your point lacks credibility.
Also it wasn't Russia who invaded Afghanistan it was the USSR, which at the time contained several muslim states.
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:36 pm

It was the Communists vs. the Mujahideen who had support from the USA, Christians supporting the Muslims for the sake of defeating Communism while opening the way for the Taliban and Al-Qaeda and everything else that came with them, wonderful. :roll:

If the "Christian world" is supposed to take credit for the technological advancements and arts, then they have to also take the blame for the wars they participated with their supposedly "Christian technology", Hiroshima and Nagasaki would be a great example.

I mean you have to be pretty thick to start such a debate in the first place, which was my point for the other guy.
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Postby bigdog » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:49 pm

These threads always end up with the same arguments . I think that everyone knows in their own head the difference between right and wrong or good and evil .
Hacking someones hands , feet or head off or stoning to death is evil .
Bombing the Innocent is also evil . You could argue for ever .
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Postby Moonlight » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:11 am

bigdog wrote:These threads always end up with the same arguments . I think that everyone knows in their own head the difference between right and wrong or good and evil .
Hacking someones hands , feet or head off or stoning to death is evil .
Bombing the Innocent is also evil . You could argue for ever .


I will tell you a symbol question(friently always) : If someone rape or kill your mother or someone very close to you what punishment do you think he will deserved? Think with open mind and answer me.
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Postby Moonlight » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:13 am

bigdog wrote:These threads always end up with the same arguments . I think that everyone knows in their own head the difference between right and wrong or good and evil .
Hacking someones hands , feet or head off or stoning to death is evil .
Bombing the Innocent is also evil . You could argue for ever .


I will tell you a symbol question(friently always) : If someone rape or kill your mother or someone very close to you what punishment do you think he will deserved? Think with open mind and answer me.
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:55 am

It is not as simple as you think Moonlight, it depends on many variables.
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Postby QAMERSLAND » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:44 am

Moonlight wrote:
bigdog wrote:These threads always end up with the same arguments . I think that everyone knows in their own head the difference between right and wrong or good and evil .
Hacking someones hands , feet or head off or stoning to death is evil .
Bombing the Innocent is also evil . You could argue for ever .


I will tell you a symbol question(friently always) : If someone rape or kill your mother or someone very close to you what punishment do you think he will deserved? Think with open mind and answer me.


Good Question moonlight
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