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Re: muslim

Postby zan » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:04 am

Southerner wrote:
zan wrote:Still going on your bigoted way hey Southerner??? :roll:


The difference is that I can think for myself, enjoy freedom of speech and action and so does my Wife without some sexist muslim pig coming up to her in the street and threatening her for not dressing properly.
If that makes me a bigot so be it.


Not only a bigot but ignorant too I am afraid mate....Some countries do that and some don't. have you ever tried that freedom thing in the Vatican?????


You have the choice mate and you seem not to want to use it...I am not religious one little bit so I choose to leave this guy to his own divises...Ever thought of doing the same instead of acting like the knights of the Crusades....? :roll:
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Postby Moonlight » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:24 am

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Moonlight wrote:in short i accepted Islam with my will and i consider myself lucky. i had to change myself little and i visited many muslim countries after i embraced Islam and i came to know that Islam and Muslims are diffrent than i had seen on the tv or listened from other cypriot people.
i sugest you to know true Islam with right intention and dont know Islam by visiting anti Islamic websites which are giving info out of context.

By embracing Islam you became a sexist pig as well as worshipping a known paedophile (didn't muhamed marry a little girl).

I didn't have to go to an anti Islamic website to see women having their brains blown out in the middle of a Kabul football pitch all because they learnt to read or got an education.
You can't deny that!
Islam belongs in the dark ages where it fermented itself, sentencing a woman to barbaric punishment for being gang raped, how pathetic just because the other passenger wasn't her husband.
Murdering a female relative because she was the victim of rape claiming it to be an honour killing.


seems like you belong to pig family and that's why you are so busy in maketing pigs. :)

thank you to ask about my religion, it is my duty to tell you the truth

seems like you dont understand simple english in which rajput and qamersland has described you agian and again that we dont care what Afghani do or others. we care what islam teaches us.

you bring me the prove where Islam says to punish rape victim?

Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him married to Aisha Peace be upon her which was her own will not forced. Her father offered her when she was younger but Prophet Muhammad peace e upon him rejected to marry and when she reached to puperty age, That time Prophet accepted to marry her. it was done by the will of Aisha Peace be upon her.
one more point to be noted is that in those days, when someone offered their son or daughter and if someone refuses, there could be war among the tribes because of it, but Prophet Muhammad PBUH rejected when she was much younger. one more point to be noted is that it was a proper marriage contract not the Prophet raped her. if it were rape, even after the death of prophet she lived abot 40 years and why she naver said a single bad world about prophet if he raped? but she always good words about him in his life and after his death.

you just lost the sence to difrenciate between black and white because of your stereotypes, you minds are full with half truth that is more dangerous than lie

the western media bring in the headlines if one 50 years muslim man marry to a 16 years girl with her will. but when a 60 years old western man rape 6 year girl, it comes in news brief.

why do you have double policy?

there are much more i can say to answer your allegation but i dont want to make it long, i have just explained shortly
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Re: muslim

Postby rawk » Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:30 am

Ah Squamers

My old mate!

Just back from important business sorting out those uppity females in Pakistan? Why can't they just shut up, know their place, and let us beardies with bad breath run the show like we always have done.

So 55 million years of evolution on an earth some 4 billion years old with a race of clever chimps who still share 99.5% of their DNA with them, and its Mohammed we've got to thank for that and of course, Allah!

Allah??? Hmm, Not keen on dinosaurs, was he? Had them wiped out? So the beardies can run earth? Didn't see that in the Quran or was it in an earlier edition?

We have spoken before on this forum and you and I know quite well what my views are on your slavish adherrance to nonsensical claptrap.

You are demonstrating several disturbing signs of pyschological inpairment which is not saved by your "calmness" in the face of some very hostile responses to your postings.

Your are displaying a detachment from reality which allows you to see only that which fits your "world" view. Something akin to native South American indians who asked in sign language where the Conquisadors had come from. The Spanish pointed to their galleons moored off shore, but the natives could not see them! In their world view no boat that big could exist, therefore they could not see it! They were blind to it as you are to the essence of humanity. You have lost your way.

And no words ever written by primitive mystics will ever help you understand that.

But to cheer you up. I've got some even better news......

What about paradise and those virgins? Lets see...

Southerner wrote:
QAMERSLAND wrote:and when it is about muslim women you get blind


Anybody know why so many young muslim men become suicide bombers?

Answer:-because on their wedding night they get a massive shock the first time they see their ugly wives naked, so they become suicide bombers hoping that one of the 32 promised virgins will be passable (some chance)


32? More like 72!

Not only that, the word for "virgin" in early Syriac was very similar to the word for "raisin"!

Luxenberg tries to show that many obscurities of the Koran disappear if we read certain words as being Syriac and not Arabic. We cannot go into the technical details of his methodology but it allows Luxenberg, to the probable horror of all Muslim males dreaming of sexual bliss in the Muslim hereafter, to conjure away the wide-eyed houris promised to the faithful in suras XLIV.54; LII.20, LV.72, and LVI.22. Luxenberg 's new analysis, leaning on the Hymns of Ephrem the Syrian, yields "white raisins" of "crystal clarity" rather than doe-eyed, and ever willing virgins - the houris. Luxenberg claims that the context makes it clear that it is food and drink that is being offerred, and not unsullied maidens or houris.

In Syriac, the word hur is a feminine plural adjective meaning white, with the word "raisin" understood implicitly. Similarly, the immortal, pearl-like ephebes or youths of suras such as LXXVI.19 are really a misreading of a Syriac expression meaning chilled raisins (or drinks) that the just will have the pleasure of tasting in contrast to the boiling drinks promised the unfaithful and damned.

Here's the link: -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Stor ... 57,00.html

Slightly ironic, squamers, if all those fine muslim martyrs ended their miserable lives here on Allah's chosen planet for a handful of raisins.

I know you have travelled too far into your particular mental state to stop and think or even consider any alternative to what you believe is your "God"'s teachings, so I'll run with your fantasy..

There is a God, squamers...................











She's black!

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Re: islam

Postby Bucksboy » Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:04 pm

qamersland,
What crap you write! Your blind faith in an unspeakably cruel religion prevents you ever from see the truth that smacks you right in the face.
What technology indeed......to start off, how about the means to post your filth on this forum web site? Do you think mohammed discovered the internet then/ or the ancient Islamists? If muslims are so clever and ingenious why are they using western technology? Use your own.
And what indeed can you tell me about music? Islam is devoid of culture and how crazy to live in a country that teaches that music is evil!

I don't understand your point about doctors not giving blood to their blind but can only say that praying to your Islamic god will do no good at all for the blind. Perhaps you might explain this?

Islam is pure evil and was originated by men to subjugate women.

how ignorant you are that whatever technology you have achieved is on the base of those Muslims earlier discoveries which if i will start to post here, it wont go down to your throat.

music is prohibited in Islam therefore you think we are not able to produce evil songs to astray ourselves?

http://www.ais.org/~bsb/Herald/Previous/95/science.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/Science/math.html

http://www.answering-islam.org/Science/

have look the links above to get the answers of your allegations

if you are still not satisfied then at one point Doctors also refused to give sight to Blind and we just pray to God to give sight such blinds.[/quote]
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:00 pm

To be honest most technology is discovered by either scientist or warfare, and i don't believe neither have much faith involved in their work, Islam AND Christianity are just as backward as each other, and if you think music is prohibited in Islam then i presume you have never watched a Sufi ceremony (probably one of the most peaceful sects of religion in the world), some of the most peaceful and inspiring music i have ever heard in my life actually and i am not even religious, unlike that Church garbage that makes you want to repeatedly stab your ears with icepicks :lol:

On the other hand healing through music and sound was pretty common during the Ottoman era, i think you should read more about the topic you want to throw shit at, before you make a fool of yourself...
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Postby Bucksboy » Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:06 pm

Shahmaran,
You have obviously not listened to the music of Thomas Tallis or William Byrd.

So perhaps you might list some classical Islamic music that is on a par with the European Classical Masters of the 16th, 17th 18th 19th & 20th centuries.

Are there music colleges in Iran then?
Send me details please.
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:42 pm

Iran is not the only Islamic country in the world, you would be a fool to claim that Muslims don't or cannot make music. Even you should be able to see the absurdity in such claims.
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Postby Bucksboy » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:07 pm

Shahmaran,

Did I say that Iran is the only Islamic country in world? Alas, it is not!
Don't show your ignorance by stating the obvious.

How absurd a country/faith or culture that actively DISCOURAGES the pleasure of music & other arts. This is Islam today and is greatly removed from the Islam of past centuries. Today it is to be feared by all that love freedom to speak, freedom to worship whatever idol they choose, freedom to enjoy ALL arts, freedom to dress how you choose and freedom to choose sexual partners and gender.

I'm wait in vain I fear for examples of great Islamic music.

No doubt you will correct me yet again and show me how ignorant I am of the great technological & artistic achievements of the Islamic modern world.
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:23 pm

:lol:

You keep sweeping all Islamic countries with your bigoted ignorance, yet here i am telling you that the biggest Islamic empire in the world was very much into music, i told you Sufism was very much music oriented, what more do you want me to say?! You want to compare Mozart with one of the most amazing philosophies in the world and the music that is behind it, fine, but i personally think that is the most stupid thing i have heard here in a long time, because you seem to want to give credit to Christianity for the doings of people, yet i fail to make any connections between the two. I live in an Islamic country yet i do not see any trace of such claims you are making. What have you got to say about that?
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Re: islam

Postby zan » Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:26 pm

Bucksboy wrote:Shahmaran,

Did I say that Iran is the only Islamic country in world? Alas, it is not!
Don't show your ignorance by stating the obvious.

How absurd a country/faith or culture that actively DISCOURAGES the pleasure of music & other arts. This is Islam today and is greatly removed from the Islam of past centuries. Today it is to be feared by all that love freedom to speak, freedom to worship whatever idol they choose, freedom to enjoy ALL arts, freedom to dress how you choose and freedom to choose sexual partners and gender.

I'm wait in vain I fear for examples of great Islamic music.

No doubt you will correct me yet again and show me how ignorant I am of the great technological & artistic achievements of the Islamic modern world.



Knock yourself out kid....
http://www.google.com/search?client=saf ... 8&oe=UTF-8


How closed can a mind get :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Does anyone know much about now about this great Christian country called Russia and how it behaves towards freedom of it's people and art :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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