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[cyprusgrump]

we all expect same thing dear cyprusgrump but unfortunatly world is not always the way we expect it to be.how we can give guarntee that no women will be targetted by any sick person.these are few statistics of rape cases in the world isnt it bad shouldnt we prevent this why even a single women have to go through such a misrey.

#1 United States: 89,110
#2 South Africa: 53,008
#3 Canada: 24,049
#4 Australia: 15,630
#5 India: 15,468
#6 Mexico: 13,061
#7 United Kingdom: 8,593
#8 France: 8,458
#9 Germany: 7,499
#10 Russia: 6,978

And the answer to this ‘misery’ is to cover up from head to toe?

You don’t think that for one tiny, tiny second a woman has a right to wear what she pleases, do what she pleases and go where she pleases without being attacked?

You think it is okay for men to attack women because they dress immodestly?

Perhaps women should never be allowed out – that would solve the problem and reduce the statistics to zero?

My friend, you have just proven that you and your religion are still in the Dark Ages.

[rajput49]

again dear cyprus grump trying to make conclusions which were not meant to be taken out from example whole point u r trying to stress is that i support some one attacking women if she is dressed up immodestly.what i said b4 as well which ur not getting is that this is one of the many preventive measures to stop such an act.how come u make such conclusions difficult to understand.anyway islam has taken europeans out of dark ages how it can take some one to these dark ages back.

[cyprusgrump]

again dear cyprus grump trying to make conclusions which were not meant to be taken out from example whole point u r trying to stress is that i support some one attacking women if she is dressed up immodestly.what i said b4 as well which ur not getting is that this is one of the many preventive measures to stop such an act.how come u make such conclusions difficult to understand.anyway islam has taken europeans out of dark ages how it can take some one to these dark ages back.

But why does your religion believe that such draconian preventative measures should be necessary?

[rajput49]

this isnt draconian preventative measure if some women is covering herself how u can call it draconian preventative measure.if u say one say it is draconian preventative measure.why u dont suggest anything more useful.and again i stress its one of preventive measure not the only one.

[Bucksboy]

Cyprus grump,
Women in Muslim countries are not allowed to go out on their own and are always escorted by some male family spy to prevent them lookin at the male talent (if there is any in a muslim state) and to keep them "pure"!

Yuk, the whole system stinks and why western european governments even granted permission for any Muslim to be granted residency in the first instance just beggers belief.

"Islam"..... "Made by males to control females"

[Niki]

nikki u should read previous posts on the same topic as i clarified what is hijab"?even if just for arguments we accept this theory that women can get vitamin deficiancy with hijab on what about skin cancer if u expose urself to sun u can have skin cancer so we should stop going into sun.what about breast cancer on rise in west i can give one reason and wouldnt take into consideration anyother factor will it make sense?.if u will judge things with this point of view there will not be any end to this.we have to take things in totality take the into consideration social aspect, and these are just theories not established facts.i suggest u again go back to the previous pages and read explanation about hijab.thnx 4 ur comments and interest.

I have read them and it still makes no sense to me. I find the man/woman discrimination unacceptable. In my world I have always been equal with men I know at home and at work. I have also seen that Muslim men I have met have been no better behaved than other men towards women.

Despite the fact I don't agree with many aspects of your religion I understand we will never agree so I wish you and your family a Happy New Year Rajput.

[cyprusgrump]

this isnt draconian preventative measure if some women is covering herself how u can call it draconian preventative measure.if u say one say it is draconian preventative measure.why u dont suggest anything more useful.and again i stress its one of preventive measure not the only one.

Because, quite simply you are punishing the victim! It is a ridiculous standpoint and the one which you remember used as justification for it!

I own two nice cars and a motorbike – should I scratch and deface them to prevent anybody wanting to steal them? Of course not!

[bigdog]

we all expect same thing dear cyprusgrump but unfortunatly world is not always the way we expect it to be.how we can give guarntee that no women will be targetted by any sick person.these are few statistics of rape cases in the world isnt it bad shouldnt we prevent this why even a single women have to go through such a misrey.

#1 United States: 89,110
#2 South Africa: 53,008
#3 Canada: 24,049
#4 Australia: 15,630
#5 India: 15,468
#6 Mexico: 13,061
#7 United Kingdom: 8,593
#8 France: 8,458
#9 Germany: 7,499
#10 Russia: 6,978

Do you have the statistics for Saudi arabia ?
Sudan ?
Iran ?
Iraq
Afgnanistan ?
pakistan ?

[rajput49]

big dog i just put top 10 figures here is the full available list u will ur countries of ""interest""" as well
#1 United States: 89,110
#2 South Africa: 53,008
#3 Canada: 24,049
#4 Australia: 15,630
#5 India: 15,468
#6 Mexico: 13,061
#7 United Kingdom: 8,593
#8 France: 8,458
#9 Germany: 7,499
#10 Russia: 6,978
#11 Korea, South: 6,139
#12 Spain: 5,664
#13 Zimbabwe: 5,567
#14 Thailand: 4,020
#15 Venezuela: 2,931
#16 Poland: 2,399
#17 Italy: 2,336
#18 Japan: 2,260
#19 Colombia: 1,861
#20 Netherlands: 1,648
#21 Indonesia: 1,372
#22 Jamaica: 1,304
#23 Papua New Guinea: 1,295
#24 Turkey: 1,260
#25 Chile: 1,250
#26 Malaysia: 1,210
#27 Sri Lanka: 1,202
#28 Ukraine: 1,151
#29 Romania: 1,110
#30 New Zealand: 861
#31 Bulgaria: 593
#32 Hungary: 589
#33 Finland: 579
#34 Norway: 555
#35 Belarus: 530
#36 Czech Republic: 500
#37 Denmark: 497
#38 Costa Rica: 475
#39 Switzerland: 404
#40 Portugal: 385
#41 Tunisia: 334
#42 Kyrgyzstan: 321
#43 Zambia: 300
#44 Ireland: 218
#45 Moldova: 200
#46 Lithuania: 183
#47 Uruguay: 175
#48 Slovakia: 129
#49 Greece: 114
#50 Hong Kong: 104
#51 Latvia: 104
#52 Saudi Arabia: 87
#53 Slovenia: 86
#54 Yemen: 80
#55 Iceland: 73
#56 Estonia: 73
#57 Seychelles: 64
#58 Georgia: 47
#59 Azerbaijan: 30
#60 Armenia: 28
#61 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 27
#62 Mauritius: 27
#63 Dominica: 24
#64 Qatar: 12
#65 Montserrat: 7

[rajput49]

Rapes (per capita) by country




#1 South Africa: 1.19538 per 1,000 people
#2 Seychelles: 0.788294 per 1,000 people
#3 Australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people
#4 Montserrat: 0.749384 per 1,000 people
#5 Canada: 0.733089 per 1,000 people
#6 Jamaica: 0.476608 per 1,000 people
#7 Zimbabwe: 0.457775 per 1,000 people
#8 Dominica: 0.34768 per 1,000 people
#9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
#10 Iceland: 0.246009 per 1,000 people
#11 Papua New Guinea: 0.233544 per 1,000 people
#12 New Zealand: 0.213383 per 1,000 people
#13 United Kingdom: 0.142172 per 1,000 people
#14 Spain: 0.140403 per 1,000 people
#15 France: 0.139442 per 1,000 people
#16 Korea, South: 0.12621 per 1,000 people
#17 Mexico: 0.122981 per 1,000 people
#18 Norway: 0.120836 per 1,000 people
#19 Costa Rica: 0.118277 per 1,000 people
#20 Venezuela: 0.115507 per 1,000 people
#21 Finland: 0.110856 per 1,000 people
#22 Netherlands: 0.100445 per 1,000 people
#23 Denmark: 0.0914948 per 1,000 people
#24 Germany: 0.0909731 per 1,000 people
#25 Bulgaria: 0.0795973 per 1,000 people
#26 Chile: 0.0782179 per 1,000 people
#27 Thailand: 0.0626305 per 1,000 people
#28 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0623785 per 1,000 people
#29 Poland: 0.062218 per 1,000 people
#30 Sri Lanka: 0.0599053 per 1,000 people
#31 Hungary: 0.0588588 per 1,000 people
#32 Estonia: 0.0547637 per 1,000 people
#33 Ireland: 0.0542829 per 1,000 people
#34 Switzerland: 0.0539458 per 1,000 people
#35 Belarus: 0.0514563 per 1,000 people
#36 Uruguay: 0.0512295 per 1,000 people
#37 Lithuania: 0.0508757 per 1,000 people
#38 Malaysia: 0.0505156 per 1,000 people
#39 Romania: 0.0497089 per 1,000 people
#40 Czech Republic: 0.0488234 per 1,000 people
#41 Russia: 0.0486543 per 1,000 people
#42 Latvia: 0.0454148 per 1,000 people
#43 Moldova: 0.0448934 per 1,000 people
#44 Colombia: 0.0433254 per 1,000 people
#45 Slovenia: 0.0427648 per 1,000 people
#46 Italy: 0.0402045 per 1,000 people
#47 Portugal: 0.0364376 per 1,000 people
#48 Tunisia: 0.0331514 per 1,000 people
#49 Zambia: 0.0266383 per 1,000 people
#50 Ukraine: 0.0244909 per 1,000 people
#51 Slovakia: 0.0237525 per 1,000 people
#52 Mauritius: 0.0219334 per 1,000 people
#53 Turkey: 0.0180876 per 1,000 people
#54 Japan: 0.017737 per 1,000 people
#55 Hong Kong: 0.0150746 per 1,000 people
#56 India: 0.0143187 per 1,000 people
#57 Qatar: 0.0139042 per 1,000 people
#58 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0132029 per 1,000 people
#59 Greece: 0.0106862 per 1,000 people
#60 Georgia: 0.0100492 per 1,000 people
#61 Armenia: 0.00938652 per 1,000 people
#62 Indonesia: 0.00567003 per 1,000 people
#63 Yemen: 0.0038597 per 1,000 people
#64 Azerbaijan: 0.00379171 per 1,000 people
#65 Saudi Arabia: 0.00329321 per 1,000 people
i am not ashamed to accept the fact some muslims are also involved in these activites but there are black sheeps every where