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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby zan » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:35 pm

phoenix wrote:
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phoenix wrote:I thought the embargoes were Internationally respected (bar from a few with vested interests) and not subject to the mere say so of the RoC :wink:

You see Zan, the Cyprus problem is not just about whether the Turks have carried out something illegitimate on the Cypriots. It's about justice being served on the wrongdoers . . . . bit like a murderer being put in prison, isn't just for the benefit of the victim's family, but for the whole community.


The whole GC community, yes! The murderer "RoC" is in power and not prison so justice has not ben served. The fact that the "RoC" stole the power in an underhanded but well planned way does not mean they are right. Injustices have been put right before and will again. Will you then accept the decision or protest against it. The UN and the EU are talking about lifting the isolation and embargoes...Why are you the only country that is refusing????Why not follow the right path of that justice rather than being the outcast of EU and UN thinking. I forgot...You guys are always right and the rest of the world wrong.........What a place to live in....It must be wonderful. :roll: :roll:


Zan it may come as a surprise but your opinion doesn't alter what is right and wrong. International Law recognises the Turks as the wrongdoers so you cannot argue with the Laws of the World . . . and ignorance is no excuse for breaking them.

If the EU and UN are talking about lifting them, they have not been lifted yet, then remember there will be hefty conditions, punishments and serving of justice . . . which is what everyone wants except Turkey.


It is not through ignorance they have been broken but by the knowledge of knowing what you are doing is wrong and illegal but it has not been shown to be yet. I think that the rest of the world realise this as well and that is why they are looking at other ways of doing the right thing. Your very clever lawyer of a president has had it sewn up in law but politics and integrity are something that he knows little about so he has been stuffed good and proper. You can fool some of the people some of the time , but.......................
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Postby phoenix » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:19 pm

zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:I thought the embargoes were Internationally respected (bar from a few with vested interests) and not subject to the mere say so of the RoC :wink:

You see Zan, the Cyprus problem is not just about whether the Turks have carried out something illegitimate on the Cypriots. It's about justice being served on the wrongdoers . . . . bit like a murderer being put in prison, isn't just for the benefit of the victim's family, but for the whole community.


The whole GC community, yes! The murderer "RoC" is in power and not prison so justice has not ben served. The fact that the "RoC" stole the power in an underhanded but well planned way does not mean they are right. Injustices have been put right before and will again. Will you then accept the decision or protest against it. The UN and the EU are talking about lifting the isolation and embargoes...Why are you the only country that is refusing????Why not follow the right path of that justice rather than being the outcast of EU and UN thinking. I forgot...You guys are always right and the rest of the world wrong.........What a place to live in....It must be wonderful. :roll: :roll:


Zan it may come as a surprise but your opinion doesn't alter what is right and wrong. International Law recognises the Turks as the wrongdoers so you cannot argue with the Laws of the World . . . and ignorance is no excuse for breaking them.

If the EU and UN are talking about lifting them, they have not been lifted yet, then remember there will be hefty conditions, punishments and serving of justice . . . which is what everyone wants except Turkey.


It is not through ignorance they have been broken but by the knowledge of knowing what you are doing is wrong and illegal but it has not been shown to be yet. I think that the rest of the world realise this as well and that is why they are looking at other ways of doing the right thing. Your very clever lawyer of a president has had it sewn up in law but politics and integrity are something that he knows little about so he has been stuffed good and proper. You can fool some of the people some of the time , but.......................


The ending is only an example of your loose thinking and lack of desire to even remain true to the ideals . .

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

1/10 for accuracy Zan :lol:
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Postby zan » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:34 pm

phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:I thought the embargoes were Internationally respected (bar from a few with vested interests) and not subject to the mere say so of the RoC :wink:

You see Zan, the Cyprus problem is not just about whether the Turks have carried out something illegitimate on the Cypriots. It's about justice being served on the wrongdoers . . . . bit like a murderer being put in prison, isn't just for the benefit of the victim's family, but for the whole community.


The whole GC community, yes! The murderer "RoC" is in power and not prison so justice has not ben served. The fact that the "RoC" stole the power in an underhanded but well planned way does not mean they are right. Injustices have been put right before and will again. Will you then accept the decision or protest against it. The UN and the EU are talking about lifting the isolation and embargoes...Why are you the only country that is refusing????Why not follow the right path of that justice rather than being the outcast of EU and UN thinking. I forgot...You guys are always right and the rest of the world wrong.........What a place to live in....It must be wonderful. :roll: :roll:


Zan it may come as a surprise but your opinion doesn't alter what is right and wrong. International Law recognises the Turks as the wrongdoers so you cannot argue with the Laws of the World . . . and ignorance is no excuse for breaking them.

If the EU and UN are talking about lifting them, they have not been lifted yet, then remember there will be hefty conditions, punishments and serving of justice . . . which is what everyone wants except Turkey.


It is not through ignorance they have been broken but by the knowledge of knowing what you are doing is wrong and illegal but it has not been shown to be yet. I think that the rest of the world realise this as well and that is why they are looking at other ways of doing the right thing. Your very clever lawyer of a president has had it sewn up in law but politics and integrity are something that he knows little about so he has been stuffed good and proper. You can fool some of the people some of the time , but.......................


The ending is only an example of your loose thinking and lack of desire to even remain true to the ideals . .

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

1/10 for accuracy Zan :lol:



If you factor in that I have great respect for some people in the south that have the courage to look at a real solution, then my account is truer than yours. You see I have the ability to adapt and think outside the box. :roll: Look out for more in the future because it seems you have missed the ones in the past. :lol:
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Postby phoenix » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:40 am

zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:I thought the embargoes were Internationally respected (bar from a few with vested interests) and not subject to the mere say so of the RoC :wink:

You see Zan, the Cyprus problem is not just about whether the Turks have carried out something illegitimate on the Cypriots. It's about justice being served on the wrongdoers . . . . bit like a murderer being put in prison, isn't just for the benefit of the victim's family, but for the whole community.


The whole GC community, yes! The murderer "RoC" is in power and not prison so justice has not ben served. The fact that the "RoC" stole the power in an underhanded but well planned way does not mean they are right. Injustices have been put right before and will again. Will you then accept the decision or protest against it. The UN and the EU are talking about lifting the isolation and embargoes...Why are you the only country that is refusing????Why not follow the right path of that justice rather than being the outcast of EU and UN thinking. I forgot...You guys are always right and the rest of the world wrong.........What a place to live in....It must be wonderful. :roll: :roll:


Zan it may come as a surprise but your opinion doesn't alter what is right and wrong. International Law recognises the Turks as the wrongdoers so you cannot argue with the Laws of the World . . . and ignorance is no excuse for breaking them.

If the EU and UN are talking about lifting them, they have not been lifted yet, then remember there will be hefty conditions, punishments and serving of justice . . . which is what everyone wants except Turkey.


It is not through ignorance they have been broken but by the knowledge of knowing what you are doing is wrong and illegal but it has not been shown to be yet. I think that the rest of the world realise this as well and that is why they are looking at other ways of doing the right thing. Your very clever lawyer of a president has had it sewn up in law but politics and integrity are something that he knows little about so he has been stuffed good and proper. You can fool some of the people some of the time , but.......................


The ending is only an example of your loose thinking and lack of desire to even remain true to the ideals . .

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

1/10 for accuracy Zan :lol:



If you factor in that I have great respect for some people in the south that have the courage to look at a real solution, then my account is truer than yours. You see I have the ability to adapt and think outside the box. :roll: Look out for more in the future because it seems you have missed the ones in the past. :lol:


. . . I wonder what size is your box :?
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Postby zan » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:48 pm

phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:I thought the embargoes were Internationally respected (bar from a few with vested interests) and not subject to the mere say so of the RoC :wink:

You see Zan, the Cyprus problem is not just about whether the Turks have carried out something illegitimate on the Cypriots. It's about justice being served on the wrongdoers . . . . bit like a murderer being put in prison, isn't just for the benefit of the victim's family, but for the whole community.


The whole GC community, yes! The murderer "RoC" is in power and not prison so justice has not ben served. The fact that the "RoC" stole the power in an underhanded but well planned way does not mean they are right. Injustices have been put right before and will again. Will you then accept the decision or protest against it. The UN and the EU are talking about lifting the isolation and embargoes...Why are you the only country that is refusing????Why not follow the right path of that justice rather than being the outcast of EU and UN thinking. I forgot...You guys are always right and the rest of the world wrong.........What a place to live in....It must be wonderful. :roll: :roll:


Zan it may come as a surprise but your opinion doesn't alter what is right and wrong. International Law recognises the Turks as the wrongdoers so you cannot argue with the Laws of the World . . . and ignorance is no excuse for breaking them.

If the EU and UN are talking about lifting them, they have not been lifted yet, then remember there will be hefty conditions, punishments and serving of justice . . . which is what everyone wants except Turkey.


It is not through ignorance they have been broken but by the knowledge of knowing what you are doing is wrong and illegal but it has not been shown to be yet. I think that the rest of the world realise this as well and that is why they are looking at other ways of doing the right thing. Your very clever lawyer of a president has had it sewn up in law but politics and integrity are something that he knows little about so he has been stuffed good and proper. You can fool some of the people some of the time , but.......................


The ending is only an example of your loose thinking and lack of desire to even remain true to the ideals . .

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and you can fool all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

1/10 for accuracy Zan :lol:



If you factor in that I have great respect for some people in the south that have the courage to look at a real solution, then my account is truer than yours. You see I have the ability to adapt and think outside the box. :roll: Look out for more in the future because it seems you have missed the ones in the past. :lol:


. . . I wonder what size is your box :?


Thats not something you ask a lady :lol:


But...

If you are asking me, as a red blooded male, then the size doesn't matter....It is how you use it that counts.....That is what I meant when I said some of you are just able to hold information and don't know what to do with it. Some of the people all of the time did not fit what I was trying to say so I adapted it. Shame you could not adapt as well in reading it. Keep inside the box little lady....It is much safer in there.
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Postby umit07 » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:34 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: Good one zan, this one really got me lol. I guess "the box" is not the same in Greek culture. Still laaaaaaaaaughing!!!!!
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