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Koumoutsakos' Answer on Imia Islets 28 Dec 2007 14:29:00

By Nasos Bratsos
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Sources: ΝΕΤ 105,8, ANA

The Greek Foreign Ministry promptly responded to an announcement by Turkey’s Army General Staff, whereby the Turkish territorial waters around the Imia islets are being violated. The above announcement triggered relevant press reports in the neighbouring country. In his statements, Foreign Ministry spokesman Giorgos Koumoutsakos stressed: "At a peak time for fishing activities in the Aegean, the Turkish side has been vying lately to create erroneous impressions by resorting to completely groundless allegations. The reality is that the Turkish moves near the Imia islets have triggered our [Greece’s] intense protests to the Turkish Foreign Ministry. Such moves, as well as any attempt to have false impressions fabricated, cannot change Greece’s unquestionable sovereign rights, which are built upon international treaties and international law. This has been the key basis of the Greek foreign policy and our international affairs."

http://news.ert.gr/en/c/12/29665.asp


thats Greece's answer,anyone knows what Turkey initially send to Greece to protest over the issue????

[humanist]

Lets see Turkey take this on....... fucking barbarians

[iceman]

Lets see Turkey take this on....... fucking barbarians

For fucks sake stop being so fucking abusive...whats come over you lately?? Have you fallen out with your boyfriend or having your fucking period or what??

[denizaksulu]

To Turkey's Army General Staff

Koumoutsakos' Answer on Imia Islets 28 Dec 2007 14:29:00

By Nasos Bratsos
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Sources: ΝΕΤ 105,8, ANA

The Greek Foreign Ministry promptly responded to an announcement by Turkey’s Army General Staff, whereby the Turkish territorial waters around the Imia islets are being violated. The above announcement triggered relevant press reports in the neighbouring country. In his statements, Foreign Ministry spokesman Giorgos Koumoutsakos stressed: "At a peak time for fishing activities in the Aegean, the Turkish side has been vying lately to create erroneous impressions by resorting to completely groundless allegations. The reality is that the Turkish moves near the Imia islets have triggered our [Greece’s] intense protests to the Turkish Foreign Ministry. Such moves, as well as any attempt to have false impressions fabricated, cannot change Greece’s unquestionable sovereign rights, which are built upon international treaties and international law. This has been the key basis of the Greek foreign policy and our international affairs."

http://news.ert.gr/en/c/12/29665.asp


thats Greece's answer,anyone knows what Turkey initially send to Greece to protest over the issue????

Kardak’ı bırakıp Gümüşlük’e geldi 28 Aralık 2007




Türk sahil güvenlik botunun engellemelerine rağmen saat 11.30 sıralarında aniden Gümüşlük Beldesi’ne doğru yönelen AZ 040 borda nolu Yunan botu, Kardak ve Gümüşlük arasında kalan Çavuş Adası’nı da geçerek Gümüşlük sahillerine kadar yaklaştı.

Burada yaklaşık 15 dakika kalan Yunan botuna, 302 nolu Türk botu müdahale ederek, saat 11.55 sıralarında Türk karasularından çıkardı. Yunan botunun yaptığı ani manevralar sırasında Türk botuyla çarpışma tehlikesi geçirdiği görüldü.


Translation from Hurriyet.
Around 11.30 Greek Navy vessel, AZ040 suddenly passed by the area between Kardak and Gumushluk and approached Chavush Island and approached the coast near Gumusluk.

It stayed there for 15 minutes and was intercepted by Turkish Navy vessel 302 .At about 11.55 it was escorted out side of Turkish Territorial waters. During sudden maneuvers of the Greek boat , it was seen that there was danger of collision between the two boats.

This is a rough translation but the essence of the article is there. That is what is reported in the Hurriyet Newspaper.

[denizaksulu]

To Turkey's Army General Staff

Koumoutsakos' Answer on Imia Islets 28 Dec 2007 14:29:00

By Nasos Bratsos
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Sources: ΝΕΤ 105,8, ANA

The Greek Foreign Ministry promptly responded to an announcement by Turkey’s Army General Staff, whereby the Turkish territorial waters around the Imia islets are being violated. The above announcement triggered relevant press reports in the neighbouring country. In his statements, Foreign Ministry spokesman Giorgos Koumoutsakos stressed: "At a peak time for fishing activities in the Aegean, the Turkish side has been vying lately to create erroneous impressions by resorting to completely groundless allegations. The reality is that the Turkish moves near the Imia islets have triggered our [Greece’s] intense protests to the Turkish Foreign Ministry. Such moves, as well as any attempt to have false impressions fabricated, cannot change Greece’s unquestionable sovereign rights, which are built upon international treaties and international law. This has been the key basis of the Greek foreign policy and our international affairs."

http://news.ert.gr/en/c/12/29665.asp


thats Greece's answer,anyone knows what Turkey initially send to Greece to protest over the issue????

Kardak’ı bırakıp Gümüşlük’e geldi 28 Aralık 2007




Türk sahil güvenlik botunun engellemelerine rağmen saat 11.30 sıralarında aniden Gümüşlük Beldesi’ne doğru yönelen AZ 040 borda nolu Yunan botu, Kardak ve Gümüşlük arasında kalan Çavuş Adası’nı da geçerek Gümüşlük sahillerine kadar yaklaştı.

Burada yaklaşık 15 dakika kalan Yunan botuna, 302 nolu Türk botu müdahale ederek, saat 11.55 sıralarında Türk karasularından çıkardı. Yunan botunun yaptığı ani manevralar sırasında Türk botuyla çarpışma tehlikesi geçirdiği görüldü.


Translation from Hurriyet.
Around 11.30 Greek Navy vessel, AZ040 suddenly passed by the area between Kardak and Gumushluk and approached Chavush Island and approached the coast near Gumusluk.

It stayed there for 15 minutes and was intercepted by Turkish Navy vessel 302 .At about 11.55 it was escorted out side of Turkish Territorial waters. During sudden maneuvers of the Greek boat , it was seen that there was danger of collision between the two boats.

This is a rough translation but the essence of the article is there. That is what is reported in the Hurriyet Newspaper.

The above is the incident which set off Turkeys protests, but what was said, must be a diplomatic secret..

[humanist]

Iceman have I spoke to you about your wife or any other person in your family? May be am jacked off with Turkey's bully tactics. For the record when I speak of Turks I refer to people from Turkey if you take that offensively you need to look at your own stuff and not blame me for that.

Furthermore I can separate the everyday Turk from the government policies are that are decisive and detrmental. A year ago the Turksih government threatened a further war on Cyprus based on oil reasons today the friggin barbarians are threatening another nation Where do they / you stop.

[humanist]

The Barbarians are at it again .............


http://www.famagusta-gazette.com/defaul ... te&he=.com

Turkish military jets enter Cyprus airspace

Turkish military jets have entered Cyprus' sovereign air space
By Alethea Reynolds 28.DEC.07
Turkish military jets have entered Cyprus' sovereign air space and Nicosia FIR (Flight Information Region) on several occasions in the past month.

The Cyprus government has made representations to the United Nations over the new violations by the Turkish air force.

The Permanent Representative of Cyprus to the United Nations has addressed a letter to the Secretary-General, in which he states, "Turkey's policy of violating international law and disregarding international regulations jepordises flight safety and stability in the region".

[Nikitas]

Having lived in Athens for over 30 years these violations do not impress anymore. They are a daily occurence. We even learned to distinguish the techno talk in the air force and navy announcements now-

An incursion is when Turkish jets fly into the Athens FIR without announcing their path. This is a permanent tactic since 1974.

A violation is when they enter the 10 mile territorial air space limit.

An overflight, the most serious kind, is then they fly right over land and in this case there can be no doubt of the intention. This is when there are active counter measures like jets scrambling to intercept etc. These incidents are the ones that have ended in accidents with loss of life on both sides.

The sea incidents are so frequent that no one notices. In any case the unmerical superiority of shipping is so overhwelming on the Greek side that the Turkish attempts to harass are donwright funny. You can imagine a civilian ship of 30 or 40 thousand tons being harassed by a flimsy patrol boat of 60 feet. The passengers on deck usualy make some rude gestures to the patrol boat and he fucks off.

The point of all this is to cast doubt on Greek sovereign rights in the Aegean and on the ability to link to Cyprus, especially in the eastern Med, between Rhodos and Cyprus. That is where the most bothersome actions occur. I guess the point is to remind the Greek side that Turkey can interrupt sea and air communications between the two anytime it wants. It will go on like this until some third party like the British, the French or the Americans get royally pissed off and bring down a jet or two and then apologise for the accident. No third rate power can interrrupt international shipping and air travel and get away with it. The rule is if you want to be a starfucker you dont fuck with the stars.

[GAVCARoCOM]

Lets see Turkey take this on....... fucking barbarians

someone might steal humanist password . i m really surprised with this post. i hope humanist is not like british police !!! they smile to your face but when they get what they want they will F...... u from behind.

[humanist]

Gavcar, nobody has stolen my password. It is me saying that, I am not the british police who smile at your face and fuck you from behind. I tell you straight to yur face what I think. I find any country intimidating and threatening war on another country to be barbarian. I would have liked to have seen a unified cyprus for all Cypriots I am now thinking partition may be the best thing for Cyprus and I would have loved the opportunity to live next to Turkish speaking Cypriot people, make friendship and even attemptt the language which I find so wonderful to my ear. However, I never claimed that I was fun or even liked Turkey. I was six years old in 1974 and from my house just 5 liometres away the bombs were failing and the fire was rampant along with the noise of war. Not to mention 33 refugees in our home and my uncle having gone missing. Therefore when I hear Turkey is stiring trouble over a couple of rocks in the sea and threatenning war on Cyprus as she did over the oil situtaion I get upset and I say what I think and that is what I think of Turkey and its government.

good to have the opportunity to explain my coment.