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[Piratis]

So in every conservative society, there's only one official opinion regarding to a matter and anything beyond that is simply not tolerated in the public arena?

Who said one official? There are many opinions. However the 90% of GCs feel that such one sided programs would be inappropriate at this point while our country is under occupation. The TV channels simply choose to do what the majority of viewers want. This is how they do always. If this was not the case, then in our TV we would have nice documentaries, quality movies etc, and not those crappy 10000 episode serials.

So the program was not shown for 2 reasons:

1) It was inappropriate according to the TV channels, and it was their right to reject it.

2) It was not what people wanted to watch at this particular time.

I see nothing undemocratic about it.

How far are Greek Cypriots related to Greeks in Greece?

The first Greeks in Cyprus came between 1500BC and 1000BC. So the relation is very far

Bonus: How comes do I look like a Greek Cypriot although, there were no Greeks in my family?

The how you look is very subjective. Is there a specific way that Greek Cypriots look like? And as far as "original Turkish looking" people goes, I believe those are the minority in Turkey itself. The original Turks had some quite strong Asian characteristics. How may Turks have those characteristics now? Most of them look more Mediterranean people than anything else.

In our region and especially Cyprus, genes have very little to do with which "side" each one belongs to.

[magikthrill]

In our region and especially Cyprus, genes have very little to do with which "side" each one belongs to.

Then what determines which "Side" one belogns to? I'm guessing its not religion since you say you're atheist. Is it language then?

[Piratis]

Then what determines which "Side" one belogns to? I'm guessing its not religion since you say you're atheist. Is it language then?

In Cyprus the main points that determine side is language and religion.

If we were all atheists, one of the reasons we are separated would be gone, and things would be easier

[MicAtCyp]

Metecyp, I already said we are not an open society, we are conservative, and the continuous Cyprus problem makes us even more concervative and cautious. For your information we have 4 channels. The CyBC (government) the Logos(Priests) the Sigma (rightist-nationalist) and ANT1 which is a branch of a mainland Greek channel. What were his chances you think even in a liberal society?

People would simply revolt from Angastiniotis documentary not because it is a lie but because it does not tell the other 95% of the truth, which is still hurting so bad the GCs.It's like trying to show a documentary to the Americans for Osamas truth behind the 9/11. Aren’t there any truths you think behind Osamas action, without even caring to even show the planes crashing.

You think we love love Sener Levent right? Lets analyse it.

For me SL supports 3 things.The illegality of the Turkish army, your domination from the deep state and the army, and he also supports the return of the TCs to RoC. I happen to agree with him. This does not bring love so far. However I know he was brutally treated by the fascist authorities in the north and also imprisoned for what he wrote. This brings respect for his courage.Nothing more so far.

Lets continue our analysis with what you wrote:

Since you love Sener Levent so much, let me tell you what he thinks about the GC police. He thinks that the GC police doesn't act like a RoC police. There are gangs in the south who sell TC land in the south with fake documents and Sener Levent complained about this many times in his newspaper, in GC newspapers and he personally went to talk to GC police but nothing has been done (according to him) to prevent this in the south. I guess the reason is "What do you expect when our land is stolen in the north?"

May I add some more things Metecyp? He says the GC police treats the TCs like spys, they delittle them, they treat them like scam, they behave like ex-Eoka gung men. He gave live examples.Yes he also told us one of the reasons our leaders will not solve the Cyprus problem is because there is a Mafia earning millions from using the TC properties.He said he brought Mustafa at the Police himself to complain for his property that the Mafia got with forgery and sold and they just teared the testimony "by accident". He said also many many other things...

So Metecyp with all these, you think I should revise my opinion for SL and de-classify him?
Of course I would, if what he was saying were lies, or propaganda. The fact is they were not propaganda and they were not lies. We verified their truth from other sources too! So SL earned our and my personal respect. Because if it weren’t for him we would never know.
So my friend all these not only did not degrade SL to my eyes but

increased my respect for SL by 4 times!

If you had just 3 TC jurnalists like SL issuing a Greek newspaper back in 1963,or even just throwing leaflets around, and opening the eyes of GCs the situation would perhaps today be different. But all you had was an idiot in the Bayrak radyo who was threatening us every afternoon, and we couldn’t understand why. Only threatening, and threatening, and "we will show you", "we will cut you in pieces" and stuf like that, that only scared us and made us only think the Turks want to stub us....Do you know the TCs were massacred at some villages and most GC people would not even hear a single thing about it?

So yes we need bothers for the whole truth even if some part of that whole truth is against us.

[metecyp]

So my friend all these not only did not degrade SL to my eyes but

increased my respect for SL by 4 times!

I didn't say you shouldn't like Sener Levent. I read him daily so that shows that I have some respect for him as well. I think he misrepresents truths sometimes but I like to read his articles because they give me a different perspective but that's it, a perspective, not the complete truth. On the other hand, you tend to use him as the only source in your arguments. As if he's the God of truth and everyone else in the north lies. That was my problem.

You also tend to quote Sener Levent when he talks about something negative in the north and I simply wanted to point out that he has lots of complaints about the south as well. I'm glad that you're aware of that.