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[MicAtCyp]

I'm not sure if the name change from Avrupa to Afrika was a court ruling. I read Sener Levent every day and I remember him saying how they changed the name to Africa as a reaction to the officials as they thought officials are trying to make north Cyprus an African country by restricting freedom of speech.

No no no. They had to close down because otherwise they had to pay a tremendous fine they could not afford. It seems they were protected as a "limited liability" company (Ltd) similar to the SPA in Italy or "Societe Anonyme" (SA) in France, which allows the closing down of a company by confescating all financial and immovable property of the Company, but not any private property of the individual shareholders.

So they set a new newspaper called "Africa" in reaction to their technical closing down.

What about bombing Nicos Anastasiadis' (sorry if misspelled) house? I also hear both in this forum and in the GC media how some people are labelled as "traitors" because they don't agree with the official opinion. Or what about that GC documentary maker who made a documentary about TC massacres in Atlilar-Murataga-Sandallar? He couldn't find a single TV channel in the south to show his documentary. Are all these part of being democratic?

So the fact that someone put a grenade outside Anastasiades house, the fact that some people were verbally called traitors (but never brought to justice) and the fact that someone else could not find a channel to present his documentary makes the country undemocratic?

I think the first can be attributed to any reason, the second to freedom of speach, and the third to freedom of choice. Am I oblidged to show every documentary someone makes?
By the way did you hear the whole story about that guy? He was unemployed and simply made that documentary to blackmail, CyBC to hire him!.

To be honest with you our society is not liberal, it is conservative.But certainly this does not mean is un- democratic.

[insan]

By the way did you hear the whole story about that guy? He was unemployed and simply made that documentary to blackmail, CyBC to hire him!.

A while ago one TC told me that Sener Levent was an ignorant about Cyprus issue because he didn't know any other language than Turkish and Russian. Thus, all the knowledge he has had about Cyprus issue based upon the sources that were in Turkish(Translations included).


The above quotation reminded me this alleagtion about Levent.

Ps: If Angastionitis had made a documentary about "Barbarian Atilla"; I'm sure CYBC would have hired him with a super salary.

Weird. How did he made such a documentary that instead of getting hired by CYBC, he was damned by most people in South.

[MicAtCyp]

Ps: If Angastionitis had made a documentary about "Barbarian Atilla"; I'm sure CYBC would have hired him with a super salary.
Weird. How did he made such a documentary that instead of getting hired by CYBC...

Simple! The assumption is wrong. Whatever documentary he would make, he would simply not get hired, because there are no vacancies for his profession, and there wont be any, for a long time to come.

You know this better than anyone and I wonder why you ask.

A while ago one TC told me that Sener Levent was an ignorant about Cyprus issue because he didn't know any other language than Turkish and Russian. Thus, all the knowledge he has had about Cyprus issue based upon the sources that were in Turkish(Translations included).

It's not a TC who told you. It's Sener Levent himself who wrote it in his newspaper, and he said much more than that. One of the things I remember he said in that same article is that he is not sure how well his articles are translated in Greek.....Anyhow do you mind explaining us the relevance of SL with what I said?

Expected usual reply from Insan: "Ain’t it obvious?"

[FenerKiz]

hi
sorry, i am only 16 and have never heard about this DNA match (between the cypriot people) before. can you give me any more information? thanx

[MicAtCyp]

Fenerkiz,

You want to know how it's done scientifically or what? Well it's done when they collect DNA to check for transplants, and those data are sent to international DNA data Banks.

In summary 80% of the genes of the GCs are the same as those of TCs. If you compare the genes of a TC with a mainland Turk the matching maybe only 50%. And if you compare it with an eskimo the match maybe 30%. (The numbers are hypothetical)

Do you need the genes to see we are genetically the same?Look at our faces, look at our decease. He have equal -very high compared to the rest of the world- diabetics, equal thalassemics, and an equal number of stuborn donkies.

[magikthrill]

hi
sorry, i am only 16 and have never heard about this DNA match (between the cypriot people) before. can you give me any more information? thanx

in addition to what mitacyp said it also basically means that TCs and GCs come from similar ancestors (ie interbreeding).

[metecyp]

Am I oblidged to show every documentary someone makes?

No, not one channel is obliged to show every documentary but in an open society, I would expect the guy would find at least one channel to show his work that talked about realities of the past not science fiction.

To be honest with you our society is not liberal, it is conservative.But certainly this does not mean is un- democratic.

So in every conservative society, there's only one official opinion regarding to a matter and anything beyond that is simply not tolerated in the public arena?

Since you love Sener Levent so much, let me tell you what he thinks about the GC police. He thinks that the GC police doesn't act like a RoC police. There are gangs in the south who sell TC land in the south with fake documents and Sener Levent complained about this many times in his newspaper, in GC newspapers and he personally went to talk to GC police but nothing has been done (according to him) to prevent this in the south. I guess the reason is "What do you expect when our land is stolen in the north?"

[garbitsch]

For the doubts about democracy in TRNC, I suggest you guys to check the country rating of North Cyprus at the official website of the independent organisation called Freedom House. http://www.freedomhouse.org For the past 4 years, North Cyprus is rated as a "free" state.

I remember the TV channels in South had rejected or somewhat cencored the propaganda speeches of the NAI sympathizers. This was heavily criticised by the European Union. Can you guys give some info about this aswell? I am not going to argue that Cyprus is less democratic than any other EU member states - which is not, but please do not ignore the fact that there have been some abuses regarding the counter-arguements towards the official policy.

[garbitsch]

How far are Greek Cypriots related to Greeks in Greece?

For the ones who argued that there were no religious freedom under the Ottoman rule: How comes do people practice Christianity in former Ottoman territories in Europe now? What policy did the British and the French followed in their colonies?

Bonus: How comes do I look like a Greek Cypriot although, there were no Greeks in my family? (I know my ancestors)

[magikthrill]

How far are Greek Cypriots related to Greeks in Greece?

For the ones who argued that there were no religious freedom under the Ottoman rule: How comes do people practice Christianity in former Ottoman territories in Europe now? What policy did the British and the French followed in their colonies?

re gardash, whats the point of comparing the English and French with the Ottomans? They were all conquerors. Do you want to place them in order of most cruel to least cruel?

The reason why so many religions practice Christianity in former Ottoman territories is because Christianity (For the most part) is what united the people together, since there was no type of citizenship.

From what I remember the Albanians were the only ones who converted to the likes of the Ottomans, while almost all others remain Christian.

Bonus: How comes do I look like a Greek Cypriot although, there were no Greeks in my family? (I know my ancestors)

This bonus question requires 5-7 pages to be completely answered! First of all what makes a Greek Cypriot look like a Greek Cypriot?

Physically characteristically there are differences between some Greek Cypriots and some Greeks. However, because practically all of Greece was once conquered by Ottomans these features can be seen through many Greeks as well. Features I am talking about are things like darker skin and more body hair.