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[zan]

That's because only 30% TC's wanted Partition while the other 70% wants another kind of a solution. Turkey does not want a Partition, but needs the threat of one, just to get a Annan Plan kind of a deal to give herself a fighting chance to get into the EU. The extra 50,000 votes will go a long way to overrun the "TRNC's" TC voters. But as VP says, we are all Turks anyway, so what if 50,000 Turks became "TRNC" citizens. VP has not caught on yet, that 50,000 new Turks here and a 50,000 new Turks there, will amount to his and all the TC's extinction from the island.

Why are you so concerned ? you have clearly made your choice and we have made ours, deal with it.

Because all of Cyprus belongs to me as well as it belongs to you and every other Cypriot and you have no right to claim any particular part for yourself by force and invite foreigners to live there with you, that's why.

Except if you are Greek... Is anyone going to post that so called correct number of foreigners in the "RoC".....Come on...Be brave

Hey Zan this is about proper reporting as he works for a newspaper and nothing else...do you think you can see a bit further than your own nose?

here it is again just in case you missed it

I know kikapu, Effendi seems to only post articles just to promote or antagonize people and when real issues as extinction of a community he stays silent...I made this post to show him as a Cypriot he should atleast be honest with what his reporting...But as you can see the silence is deafening...

And to take your argument a bit further, it doesn't make any difference how many foreigners are in the EU, coz the gc community does not face extinction...I hope you can understand what the hell is going on here...or is this another poor attempt in going of topic coz you don't like what you hear...
It's a pity that you have allowed your self to get bitched slapped, turkey slapped rather from turkey...

You say you wanna save your people but on the other hand you have no problem accepting extinction... ...with such a mentality, you have no people...

When you realise that all you are offering is not only my extinction but my culture assassination as well then you will finally understand where we are coming from. You have left me nothing to hang onto other than my Turkishness. If that comes with the package of a republic that belongs to me then what more could I want. You still seem to be trying to sell me a CYprus that has nothing i it for me so why are you amazed that I turn you down.

[boomerang]

That's because only 30% TC's wanted Partition while the other 70% wants another kind of a solution. Turkey does not want a Partition, but needs the threat of one, just to get a Annan Plan kind of a deal to give herself a fighting chance to get into the EU. The extra 50,000 votes will go a long way to overrun the "TRNC's" TC voters. But as VP says, we are all Turks anyway, so what if 50,000 Turks became "TRNC" citizens. VP has not caught on yet, that 50,000 new Turks here and a 50,000 new Turks there, will amount to his and all the TC's extinction from the island.

Why are you so concerned ? you have clearly made your choice and we have made ours, deal with it.

Because all of Cyprus belongs to me as well as it belongs to you and every other Cypriot and you have no right to claim any particular part for yourself by force and invite foreigners to live there with you, that's why.

Except if you are Greek... Is anyone going to post that so called correct number of foreigners in the "RoC".....Come on...Be brave

Hey Zan this is about proper reporting as he works for a newspaper and nothing else...do you think you can see a bit further than your own nose?

here it is again just in case you missed it

I know kikapu, Effendi seems to only post articles just to promote or antagonize people and when real issues as extinction of a community he stays silent...I made this post to show him as a Cypriot he should atleast be honest with what his reporting...But as you can see the silence is deafening...

And to take your argument a bit further, it doesn't make any difference how many foreigners are in the EU, coz the gc community does not face extinction...I hope you can understand what the hell is going on here...or is this another poor attempt in going of topic coz you don't like what you hear...
It's a pity that you have allowed your self to get bitched slapped, turkey slapped rather from turkey...

You say you wanna save your people but on the other hand you have no problem accepting extinction... ...with such a mentality, you have no people...

When you realise that all you are offering is not only my extinction but my culture assassination as well then you will finally understand where we are coming from. You have left me nothing to hang onto other than my Turkishness. If that comes with the package of a republic that belongs to me then what more could I want. You still seem to be trying to sell me a CYprus that has nothing i it for me so why are you amazed that I turn you down.

YOu can always demand your 1960 agreements and there is nothing anyone can do to stop you...This will save your extinction...But I do not think turkey wil allow you...coz by allowing you that would mean the illegalites will have to be reversed...does't it?

So in the mean time insist on the extinction of your community...Sounds like a fair swap in your mind doesn't it?

So the next you say you wanna save your community, please be honest and say I am endorsing extinction here...

But in anycase this thread is not about this...It's about an individual that prefers to report propaganda and wants everyone to take him seriously...

[zan]

That's because only 30% TC's wanted Partition while the other 70% wants another kind of a solution. Turkey does not want a Partition, but needs the threat of one, just to get a Annan Plan kind of a deal to give herself a fighting chance to get into the EU. The extra 50,000 votes will go a long way to overrun the "TRNC's" TC voters. But as VP says, we are all Turks anyway, so what if 50,000 Turks became "TRNC" citizens. VP has not caught on yet, that 50,000 new Turks here and a 50,000 new Turks there, will amount to his and all the TC's extinction from the island.

Why are you so concerned ? you have clearly made your choice and we have made ours, deal with it.

Because all of Cyprus belongs to me as well as it belongs to you and every other Cypriot and you have no right to claim any particular part for yourself by force and invite foreigners to live there with you, that's why.

Except if you are Greek... Is anyone going to post that so called correct number of foreigners in the "RoC".....Come on...Be brave

Hey Zan this is about proper reporting as he works for a newspaper and nothing else...do you think you can see a bit further than your own nose?

here it is again just in case you missed it

I know kikapu, Effendi seems to only post articles just to promote or antagonize people and when real issues as extinction of a community he stays silent...I made this post to show him as a Cypriot he should atleast be honest with what his reporting...But as you can see the silence is deafening...

And to take your argument a bit further, it doesn't make any difference how many foreigners are in the EU, coz the gc community does not face extinction...I hope you can understand what the hell is going on here...or is this another poor attempt in going of topic coz you don't like what you hear...
It's a pity that you have allowed your self to get bitched slapped, turkey slapped rather from turkey...

You say you wanna save your people but on the other hand you have no problem accepting extinction... ...with such a mentality, you have no people...

When you realise that all you are offering is not only my extinction but my culture assassination as well then you will finally understand where we are coming from. You have left me nothing to hang onto other than my Turkishness. If that comes with the package of a republic that belongs to me then what more could I want. You still seem to be trying to sell me a CYprus that has nothing i it for me so why are you amazed that I turn you down.

YOu can always demand your 1960 agreements and there is nothing anyone can do to stop you...This will save your extinction...But I do not think turkey wil allow you...coz by allowing you that would mean the illegalites will have to be reversed...does't it?

So in the mean time insist on the extinction of your community...Sounds like a fair swap in your mind doesn't it?

So the next you say you wanna save your community, please be honest and say I am endorsing extinction here...

But in anycase this thread is not about this...It's about an individual that prefers to report propaganda and wants everyone to take him seriously...

I don't know how to tell you this Boomers but you are mental..... No really......What the hell do you think Turkey asked for when she first intervened in the murder of TCs in Cyprus. Yes you guessed it....A return to the constitution......That was refused and because he GCs had gained the tittle of Government of Cyprus they did not want o go back to that agreement and still don't. It will destroy everything that Tpap worked for on the Akritas Plan. It goes against everything he believes in and he has worked for. You got the tittle by getting us out of government and then calling in the UN on the pretense that here was inter-communal fighting instead of the massacre that you carried out. This gave you the tittle otherwise the UN could not come in. That was the plan from the start and by going back to the Zurich agreement that would mean that was all for nothing....That is the only thing that Tpap has managed to get right for you guys....The rest has been one cock-up after another. Why you still want him is beyond me...He could not even get our annihilation right.

[boomerang]

That's because only 30% TC's wanted Partition while the other 70% wants another kind of a solution. Turkey does not want a Partition, but needs the threat of one, just to get a Annan Plan kind of a deal to give herself a fighting chance to get into the EU. The extra 50,000 votes will go a long way to overrun the "TRNC's" TC voters. But as VP says, we are all Turks anyway, so what if 50,000 Turks became "TRNC" citizens. VP has not caught on yet, that 50,000 new Turks here and a 50,000 new Turks there, will amount to his and all the TC's extinction from the island.

Why are you so concerned ? you have clearly made your choice and we have made ours, deal with it.

Because all of Cyprus belongs to me as well as it belongs to you and every other Cypriot and you have no right to claim any particular part for yourself by force and invite foreigners to live there with you, that's why.

Except if you are Greek... Is anyone going to post that so called correct number of foreigners in the "RoC".....Come on...Be brave

Hey Zan this is about proper reporting as he works for a newspaper and nothing else...do you think you can see a bit further than your own nose?

here it is again just in case you missed it

I know kikapu, Effendi seems to only post articles just to promote or antagonize people and when real issues as extinction of a community he stays silent...I made this post to show him as a Cypriot he should atleast be honest with what his reporting...But as you can see the silence is deafening...

And to take your argument a bit further, it doesn't make any difference how many foreigners are in the EU, coz the gc community does not face extinction...I hope you can understand what the hell is going on here...or is this another poor attempt in going of topic coz you don't like what you hear...
It's a pity that you have allowed your self to get bitched slapped, turkey slapped rather from turkey...

You say you wanna save your people but on the other hand you have no problem accepting extinction... ...with such a mentality, you have no people...

When you realise that all you are offering is not only my extinction but my culture assassination as well then you will finally understand where we are coming from. You have left me nothing to hang onto other than my Turkishness. If that comes with the package of a republic that belongs to me then what more could I want. You still seem to be trying to sell me a CYprus that has nothing i it for me so why are you amazed that I turn you down.

YOu can always demand your 1960 agreements and there is nothing anyone can do to stop you...This will save your extinction...But I do not think turkey wil allow you...coz by allowing you that would mean the illegalites will have to be reversed...does't it?

So in the mean time insist on the extinction of your community...Sounds like a fair swap in your mind doesn't it?

So the next you say you wanna save your community, please be honest and say I am endorsing extinction here...

But in anycase this thread is not about this...It's about an individual that prefers to report propaganda and wants everyone to take him seriously...

I don't know how to tell you this Boomers but you are mental..... No really......What the hell do you think Turkey asked for when she first intervened in the murder of TCs in Cyprus. Yes you guessed it....A return to the constitution......That was refused and because he GCs had gained the tittle of Government of Cyprus they did not want o go back to that agreement and still don't. It will destroy everything that Tpap worked for on the Akritas Plan. It goes against everything he believes in and he has worked for. You got the tittle by getting us out of government and then calling in the UN on the pretense that here was inter-communal fighting instead of the massacre that you carried out. This gave you the tittle otherwise the UN could not come in. That was the plan from the start and by going back to the Zurich agreement that would mean that was all for nothing....That is the only thing that Tpap has managed to get right for you guys....The rest has been one cock-up after another. Why you still want him is beyond me...He could not even get our annihilation right.

Ok zan...show me the proof that turkey asked for 1960 agreements as they stood and she got turned down...and then we will see who is mental...
Even today, if the tcs asked for it, there is no reason in hell they will get refused...

[zan]

That's because only 30% TC's wanted Partition while the other 70% wants another kind of a solution. Turkey does not want a Partition, but needs the threat of one, just to get a Annan Plan kind of a deal to give herself a fighting chance to get into the EU. The extra 50,000 votes will go a long way to overrun the "TRNC's" TC voters. But as VP says, we are all Turks anyway, so what if 50,000 Turks became "TRNC" citizens. VP has not caught on yet, that 50,000 new Turks here and a 50,000 new Turks there, will amount to his and all the TC's extinction from the island.

Why are you so concerned ? you have clearly made your choice and we have made ours, deal with it.

Because all of Cyprus belongs to me as well as it belongs to you and every other Cypriot and you have no right to claim any particular part for yourself by force and invite foreigners to live there with you, that's why.

Except if you are Greek... Is anyone going to post that so called correct number of foreigners in the "RoC".....Come on...Be brave

Hey Zan this is about proper reporting as he works for a newspaper and nothing else...do you think you can see a bit further than your own nose?

here it is again just in case you missed it

I know kikapu, Effendi seems to only post articles just to promote or antagonize people and when real issues as extinction of a community he stays silent...I made this post to show him as a Cypriot he should atleast be honest with what his reporting...But as you can see the silence is deafening...

And to take your argument a bit further, it doesn't make any difference how many foreigners are in the EU, coz the gc community does not face extinction...I hope you can understand what the hell is going on here...or is this another poor attempt in going of topic coz you don't like what you hear...
It's a pity that you have allowed your self to get bitched slapped, turkey slapped rather from turkey...

You say you wanna save your people but on the other hand you have no problem accepting extinction... ...with such a mentality, you have no people...

When you realise that all you are offering is not only my extinction but my culture assassination as well then you will finally understand where we are coming from. You have left me nothing to hang onto other than my Turkishness. If that comes with the package of a republic that belongs to me then what more could I want. You still seem to be trying to sell me a CYprus that has nothing i it for me so why are you amazed that I turn you down.

YOu can always demand your 1960 agreements and there is nothing anyone can do to stop you...This will save your extinction...But I do not think turkey wil allow you...coz by allowing you that would mean the illegalites will have to be reversed...does't it?

So in the mean time insist on the extinction of your community...Sounds like a fair swap in your mind doesn't it?

So the next you say you wanna save your community, please be honest and say I am endorsing extinction here...

But in anycase this thread is not about this...It's about an individual that prefers to report propaganda and wants everyone to take him seriously...

I don't know how to tell you this Boomers but you are mental..... No really......What the hell do you think Turkey asked for when she first intervened in the murder of TCs in Cyprus. Yes you guessed it....A return to the constitution......That was refused and because he GCs had gained the tittle of Government of Cyprus they did not want o go back to that agreement and still don't. It will destroy everything that Tpap worked for on the Akritas Plan. It goes against everything he believes in and he has worked for. You got the tittle by getting us out of government and then calling in the UN on the pretense that here was inter-communal fighting instead of the massacre that you carried out. This gave you the tittle otherwise the UN could not come in. That was the plan from the start and by going back to the Zurich agreement that would mean that was all for nothing....That is the only thing that Tpap has managed to get right for you guys....The rest has been one cock-up after another. Why you still want him is beyond me...He could not even get our annihilation right.

Ok zan...show me the proof that turkey asked for 1960 agreements as they stood and she got turned down...and then we will see who is mental...
Even today, if the tcs asked for it, there is no reason in hell they will get refused...

I will try to find it again for you Boomers....How about you write a little letter to Tpap and ask him to give me proof in writing that he will accept that plan.......Good luck


You guys are living in a dream world if you think that that can ever be allowed by this man.

[boomerang]

That's because only 30% TC's wanted Partition while the other 70% wants another kind of a solution. Turkey does not want a Partition, but needs the threat of one, just to get a Annan Plan kind of a deal to give herself a fighting chance to get into the EU. The extra 50,000 votes will go a long way to overrun the "TRNC's" TC voters. But as VP says, we are all Turks anyway, so what if 50,000 Turks became "TRNC" citizens. VP has not caught on yet, that 50,000 new Turks here and a 50,000 new Turks there, will amount to his and all the TC's extinction from the island.

Why are you so concerned ? you have clearly made your choice and we have made ours, deal with it.

Because all of Cyprus belongs to me as well as it belongs to you and every other Cypriot and you have no right to claim any particular part for yourself by force and invite foreigners to live there with you, that's why.

Except if you are Greek... Is anyone going to post that so called correct number of foreigners in the "RoC".....Come on...Be brave

Hey Zan this is about proper reporting as he works for a newspaper and nothing else...do you think you can see a bit further than your own nose?

here it is again just in case you missed it

I know kikapu, Effendi seems to only post articles just to promote or antagonize people and when real issues as extinction of a community he stays silent...I made this post to show him as a Cypriot he should atleast be honest with what his reporting...But as you can see the silence is deafening...

And to take your argument a bit further, it doesn't make any difference how many foreigners are in the EU, coz the gc community does not face extinction...I hope you can understand what the hell is going on here...or is this another poor attempt in going of topic coz you don't like what you hear...
It's a pity that you have allowed your self to get bitched slapped, turkey slapped rather from turkey...

You say you wanna save your people but on the other hand you have no problem accepting extinction... ...with such a mentality, you have no people...

When you realise that all you are offering is not only my extinction but my culture assassination as well then you will finally understand where we are coming from. You have left me nothing to hang onto other than my Turkishness. If that comes with the package of a republic that belongs to me then what more could I want. You still seem to be trying to sell me a CYprus that has nothing i it for me so why are you amazed that I turn you down.

YOu can always demand your 1960 agreements and there is nothing anyone can do to stop you...This will save your extinction...But I do not think turkey wil allow you...coz by allowing you that would mean the illegalites will have to be reversed...does't it?

So in the mean time insist on the extinction of your community...Sounds like a fair swap in your mind doesn't it?

So the next you say you wanna save your community, please be honest and say I am endorsing extinction here...

But in anycase this thread is not about this...It's about an individual that prefers to report propaganda and wants everyone to take him seriously...

I don't know how to tell you this Boomers but you are mental..... No really......What the hell do you think Turkey asked for when she first intervened in the murder of TCs in Cyprus. Yes you guessed it....A return to the constitution......That was refused and because he GCs had gained the tittle of Government of Cyprus they did not want o go back to that agreement and still don't. It will destroy everything that Tpap worked for on the Akritas Plan. It goes against everything he believes in and he has worked for. You got the tittle by getting us out of government and then calling in the UN on the pretense that here was inter-communal fighting instead of the massacre that you carried out. This gave you the tittle otherwise the UN could not come in. That was the plan from the start and by going back to the Zurich agreement that would mean that was all for nothing....That is the only thing that Tpap has managed to get right for you guys....The rest has been one cock-up after another. Why you still want him is beyond me...He could not even get our annihilation right.

Ok zan...show me the proof that turkey asked for 1960 agreements as they stood and she got turned down...and then we will see who is mental...
Even today, if the tcs asked for it, there is no reason in hell they will get refused...

I will try to find it again for you Boomers....How about you write a little letter to Tpap and ask him to give me proof in writing that he will accept that plan.......Good luck


You guys are living in a dream world if you think that that can ever be allowed by this man.

Look zan I think you need to see a shrink...Where did I say what Paps wants...The facts are if tcs want a return to the 1960 agreements, there is nothing anyone can do to stop them...Coz if they did they would be signing away 37% of Cyprus...Now think about it man...

Ask for them and see if you get turned down...But if you ask for them, be prepared for the illegalities to be reversed...Everyone goes home, and no more a breakaway state...It actually means the abolishment of the breakaway state...You think turkey will allow this?...

[zan]

Boomers!! You ask one question and then answer it with another.....I am just playing along with this for a while although this will be my last post for tonight...I need sleep......Will Tpap and therefore the "RoC" want it and the answer is no. I have asked Bir to write to Tpap and get an answer but he hasn't either because although you two are dreamers you do not want a sudden shock to wake you up. Whether Turkey wants it or not is not the question here. What is the point of chasing rainbows.........Time moves forwards...Many here, including yourself have dismissed the Annan Plan by saying that one reason you will not accept it is because Turkey still will have guarantor powers and you will not allow that...What does the Zurich agreement say on that......Stop trying to blur the edges mate......It will not work. Tpap ahs many ways to say no and he will.You thinking that he has your refugees interests at heart and will say yes without conditions is way up there with the rainbow you will never catch. Nice try though






Good night...

[bilako22]

It is pure nonsense to think that Cyprus can go back to the 1960 constitution considering what has happened since . The facts on the ground make it impossible for both sides . Roll on partition...

[boomerang]

Boomers!! You ask one question and then answer it with another.....I am just playing along with this for a while although this will be my last post for tonight...I need sleep......Will Tpap and therefore the "RoC" want it and the answer is no. I have asked Bir to write to Tpap and get an answer but he hasn't either because although you two are dreamers you do not want a sudden shock to wake you up. Whether Turkey wants it or not is not the question here. What is the point of chasing rainbows.........Time moves forwards...Many here, including yourself have dismissed the Annan Plan by saying that one reason you will not accept it is because Turkey still will have guarantor powers and you will not allow that...What does the Zurich agreement say on that......Stop trying to blur the edges mate......It will not work. Tpap ahs many ways to say no and he will.You thinking that he has your refugees interests at heart and will say yes without conditions is way up there with the rainbow you will never catch. Nice try though



Good night...

Just get me the turkey asked for the 1960 agreements it and never got it proof, and stop wiggliing...

Gnight and happy dreams zan

[boomerang]

It is pure nonsense to think that Cyprus can go back to the 1960 constitution considering what has happened since . The facts on the ground make it impossible for both sides . Roll on partition...

That wasn't the issue here...Zan said turkey asked for it and never got it...the recent survey in the nth beg to differ with your thoughts...

40% said no to a 2 state solution...

Just keep on colonizing and you will keep on seeing tcs either moving to the free areas and others overseas...and then we will talk which community is getting extinct...


Anyway the thread here is about an individual, while working for a newspaper, being selective in what he writes, expecting others to respect him and his newspaper...