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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:32 pm

utu wrote:
According to the existing but unpublished Greek Cabinet Decision of 1964, any Greek citizen who has done his military service in Cyprus or served in the Greek National Army (Ethniki Fruro) automatically becomes a citizen of the Republic of Cyprus (Greek Cyprus).
For years one Greek regiment and two battalions of Greek Commandos were deployed on the island and thousands of Greek officers served in the Greek Cypriot National Guard. These privates and army officers, who change every two years, have, since 1964, automatically become citizens.


Yes, I have heard about the above practice. And I know that the T/C side points to this as proof of hypocracy, but the major difference between this practice by the G/C's and the settler immigration of the T/C's is that as the Republic of Cyprus is internationally regarded as legal, this policy is the decision of what is regarded as a lawful government.


As you can see they change every 2 years. As far as I know very very few got married with Cypriot women that they met during their military service here. Surprisingly sexual discrimination laws of the 60s (upto the 2000s I believe) wouldn't allow a foreign male who married a local female the right to get the citizenship. So those few soldiers had to wait for about 7 years to get it. In fact at least half of them had divorced in the meantime so they never got it. Btw we have the very same high percentage of divorces between GCs and mainland Greeks as you have with the Karasakalis. :wink:

Now how can I tell a mainland Greek from a GC? From his/her accent of course. It's very distinctive!
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Re: Greek "Settlers"

Postby joe » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:34 pm

observer wrote:I have a feeling that this is as accurate as GC propaganda about Turkish "settlers", but it's an interesting read.

http://www.arcaajans.com/kose.asp?kose_id=2836

Ata Atun 27.12.2007

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The breakdown of “Greek settlers” in this electoral list of 500,000 is approximately as follows:
Pontus Greek Cypriots: 60,000 - 70,000
Citizens of the former Soviet Republic: 30,000
Christians who fled Lebanon: 15,000 - 20,000
Immigrants from Greece: 100,000
Asylum seeker Kurds: 2,500 - 3,000
Asylum seeker citizens from third countries: 9,500
Total of “Greek settlers in Cyprus”: approximately 230,000



Ask any (let me emphasize "ANY") Cypriot that lives in the South, that person will tell you that these figures are 100 percent false. This is an example of the worst kind of propaganda meant to allow Turkish settles to continue to encroach upon this republic. i thank you for pointing this article out to us so that we can see what kind of idiocy is being printed by nationalists from your end.
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Postby utu » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:14 am

Kifeas wrote:
utu wrote:
According to the existing but unpublished Greek Cabinet Decision of 1964, any Greek citizen who has done his military service in Cyprus or served in the Greek National Army (Ethniki Fruro) automatically becomes a citizen of the Republic of Cyprus (Greek Cyprus).
For years one Greek regiment and two battalions of Greek Commandos were deployed on the island and thousands of Greek officers served in the Greek Cypriot National Guard. These privates and army officers, who change every two years, have, since 1964, automatically become citizens.


Yes, I have heard about the above practice. And I know that the T/C side points to this as proof of hypocracy, but the major difference between this practice by the G/C's and the settler immigration of the T/C's is that as the Republic of Cyprus is internationally regarded as legal, this policy is the decision of what is regarded as a lawful government.


Utter rubbish Utu ...utter rubbish! No such a thing exists or ever existed!


Can you substantiate your claim? I'm only quoting from what I have read. If you have credible sources, I'd like tro read them. In any case, I'm only saying that if this policy is so, then it is legal policy from a legal government on its own territory.
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:22 am

WHAT A LOADA SHITTA!!!!

This crap about automatic citizenship of foreigners who marry a Cypriot is total BULL. I have been married for 30 years and the RoC nationality rules do not allow my wife to EVEN APPLY for citizenship!!!! We msut return and live in Cyprus non stop for a minimum of 3 years before applying for citizenship! And there is no guaranteee she will get it.

WHAT SICK MIND dreams up this crap and posts it here?

As for Greek army personnel lining up to get RoC citizenship, forget that angle. These days Cyprus is not a choice posting, soldiers who serve there are enticed with a reduction in their national service time. Officers cannot accept another nationality and still serve in the armed forces. So the army angle falls flat on its face.

As for the policy of encouraging Greeks to move to Cyprus from 1900 that is a total crock. At that time the British ruled Cyprus, (the asshole who wrote that nonsense forgot that detail), and the aliens orders were in force. NO FOREIGNERS could move to Cyprus. The only exceptions were the teachers sent by both Turkey and Greece under relevant agreements. So go ahead and point to one single family who moved from Greece to Cyprus between 1900 and 1960, go on, name just one!

My mother is Greek from Greece and married my father while he was a volunteer in the Royal Navy during the war. She could not move to Cyprus, despite his service in British forces until she got her British Passport! So where is the influx of Greeks to thei sland between 1900 and 1960?
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:16 am

utu wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
utu wrote:
According to the existing but unpublished Greek Cabinet Decision of 1964, any Greek citizen who has done his military service in Cyprus or served in the Greek National Army (Ethniki Fruro) automatically becomes a citizen of the Republic of Cyprus (Greek Cyprus).
For years one Greek regiment and two battalions of Greek Commandos were deployed on the island and thousands of Greek officers served in the Greek Cypriot National Guard. These privates and army officers, who change every two years, have, since 1964, automatically become citizens.


Yes, I have heard about the above practice. And I know that the T/C side points to this as proof of hypocracy, but the major difference between this practice by the G/C's and the settler immigration of the T/C's is that as the Republic of Cyprus is internationally regarded as legal, this policy is the decision of what is regarded as a lawful government.


Utter rubbish Utu ...utter rubbish! No such a thing exists or ever existed!


Can you substantiate your claim? I'm only quoting from what I have read. If you have credible sources, I'd like tro read them. In any case, I'm only saying that if this policy is so, then it is legal policy from a legal government on its own territory.


Aei gamisou!
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Postby humanist » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:27 am

Aei gamisou!


Kifeas I second that like you wouldn't believe.
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Postby humanist » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:09 am

I am beginning to believe there is difference on geneological and dna levels

he breakdown of “Greek settlers” in this electoral list of 500,000 is approximately as follows:
Pontus Greek Cypriots: 60,000 - 70,000
Citizens of the former Soviet Republic: 30,000
Christians who fled Lebanon: 15,000 - 20,000
Immigrants from Greece: 100,000
Asylum seeker Kurds: 2,500 - 3,000
Asylum seeker citizens from third countries: 9,500
Total of “Greek settlers in Cyprus”: approximately 230,000

How could asylum seekers be labelled as settlers is beyond me. It appears the turks will manipulate anything to excuse their own tricks.

In any case at least we are still the majority in our own country. Read and weep baby . can you say the same about yours

Oh but then again I don care because ama greek speaking cypriot
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Postby utu » Fri Dec 28, 2007 6:38 am

How could asylum seekers be labelled as settlers is beyond me. It appears the turks will manipulate anything to excuse their own tricks.


You make it sound as if Greeks are simply incapable of such things...
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Postby halil » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:53 am

excuse .excuse.excuse........ Thats the way , they can say...............

asylum seekers .
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Postby humanist » Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:56 am

glad to see you smile halil



I fail to see how 5,000 asylum seekers to 800000 Cypriots equate to 90000 Turkish speaking Cypriots to 200000 settlers soon to become 250,000. Like I said I give no shit if you are a minority in your country. I have nothng else to prove
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