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[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

Dinos, there is a perfectly good reason for my post. I wanted to bring the property issue to your attention once again. I think the responses prove beyond doubt that it has had the desired affect.

My message is loud and clear, the property boom may have slowed down a touch due to GC efforts in scaring potential buyers of legal problems in the future. The article clearly encourages the sale of GC property. So Dinos, don't you think it is time for the RoC to take some positive steps in preventing more sales of your properties? Shouldn't Papad take his head out of his own backside and start some meaningful negotiation with Talat to protect the properties of innocent GCs?

I don't have to convince anybody of my intentions for the post but contrary to what you guys may believe it was posted with the best of intentions, it is a WAKE UP call to you all.

Phoenix, this sleazebag was not endorsing the sale of GC properties, merely bringing it to your attention.

My dream home is built on TC land and paid for with hard earned cash. I have not made a single penny out of GC land nor have I benefited from the GC losses. I genuinely sympathise with all those that are at a loss and want to see a just and meaningful end to their misery.

Mr Frog,

You can blame PapaD for the reasons why GC's property is being sold off in the "TRNC", but you are blaming the wrong person. Why don't you blame the "TRNC" for first of all giving away other peoples property to others, allowing the sale of others property, and building on other peoples property, when they should have been kept in a "trust" by the occupying force, until a settlement is reached. The GC's have preserved our property in the RoC, so by comparison, they have taken the moral high road and the "TRNC" has taken the lowest possible immoral road one can imagine. Corruption starts at the top and works it's way down to the common person in all the countries where common decency is lost and "Sins of Haram" becomes the order of the day. It seems that's exactly what has become of the "TRNC" which is "Dripping with sins of Haram" with all those who have benefited in anyway from money generated from GC properties, and you yourself have also benefited one way or another, directly or indirectly, whether you know it or not or willing to admit it or not. The fact that you avoid seeing where the quilt and responsibility lies as to whose to blame for the sale of GC's properties, just goes to show how comfortable you feel calling "Haram infested TRNC" your home.

now thats an honest and spot on post! well done, "by a mans actions shall he be judjed"

[phoenix]

Phoenix, i don't have to quote nothing unless i am replying to something specific, which i do when it is necessary, but with you, i honestly don't see you say anything different ever, in fact its not really what you say but why you say it and the tone of your posts that i usually object to, they always begin with blaming everything on the Turks, followed by a few bigoted racial insults and then a lame joke as a finale, i think you are fucking boring to be honest and you dont seem to be aware of the depth of the generalizations you make. But that's probably just your cyber persona and I'm sure you are a lovely person otherwise

Listen Basil Fawlty, you are acting like a spoilt child

If you accuse someone, have the decency to back it up with evidence. Otherwise please realise it is only your twisted interpretation.

Racism is inherent in Humans, but it is a matter of degree, as without it our survival instincts also would not exist. So accept it, and stop accusing everyone of something you yourself exhibit in vast quantities.

You are "bored" because like a spoilt child you don't like what you hear. But clearly you are not going to hear sweet nothings from me. For as long as you post Turkish diatribes, I will restore the equilibrium.

(Anyway, maybe we are all missing the funniest person on the forum )

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

Phoenix, i don't have to quote nothing unless i am replying to something specific, which i do when it is necessary, but with you, i honestly don't see you say anything different ever, in fact its not really what you say but why you say it and the tone of your posts that i usually object to, they always begin with blaming everything on the Turks, followed by a few bigoted racial insults and then a lame joke as a finale, i think you are fucking boring to be honest and you dont seem to be aware of the depth of the generalizations you make. But that's probably just your cyber persona and I'm sure you are a lovely person otherwise

Listen Basil Fawlty, you are acting like a spoilt child

If you accuse someone, have the decency to back it up with evidence. Otherwise please realise it is only your twisted interpretation.

Racism is inherent in Humans, but it is a matter of degree, as without it our survival instincts also would not exist. So accept it, and stop accusing everyone of something you yourself exhibit in vast quantities.

You are "bored" because like a spoilt child you don't like what you hear. But clearly you are not going to hear sweet nothings from me. For as long as you post Turkish diatribes, I will restore the equilibrium.

(Anyway, maybe we are all missing the funniest person on the forum )

who`s the funniest person on the forum? i vote for bcn! come back aiden all is forgiven! where is he by the way has he been banned?

[phoenix]

Phoenix, i don't have to quote nothing unless i am replying to something specific, which i do when it is necessary, but with you, i honestly don't see you say anything different ever, in fact its not really what you say but why you say it and the tone of your posts that i usually object to, they always begin with blaming everything on the Turks, followed by a few bigoted racial insults and then a lame joke as a finale, i think you are fucking boring to be honest and you dont seem to be aware of the depth of the generalizations you make. But that's probably just your cyber persona and I'm sure you are a lovely person otherwise

Listen Basil Fawlty, you are acting like a spoilt child

If you accuse someone, have the decency to back it up with evidence. Otherwise please realise it is only your twisted interpretation.

Racism is inherent in Humans, but it is a matter of degree, as without it our survival instincts also would not exist. So accept it, and stop accusing everyone of something you yourself exhibit in vast quantities.

You are "bored" because like a spoilt child you don't like what you hear. But clearly you are not going to hear sweet nothings from me. For as long as you post Turkish diatribes, I will restore the equilibrium.

(Anyway, maybe we are all missing the funniest person on the forum )

who`s the funniest person on the forum? i vote for bcn! come back aiden all is forgiven! where is he by the way has he been banned?

I most certainly did not mean BCNumismatics . . . . although he did provide a few giggles

[shahmaran]

Phoenix, i don't have to quote nothing unless i am replying to something specific, which i do when it is necessary, but with you, i honestly don't see you say anything different ever, in fact its not really what you say but why you say it and the tone of your posts that i usually object to, they always begin with blaming everything on the Turks, followed by a few bigoted racial insults and then a lame joke as a finale, i think you are fucking boring to be honest and you dont seem to be aware of the depth of the generalizations you make. But that's probably just your cyber persona and I'm sure you are a lovely person otherwise

Listen Basil Fawlty, you are acting like a spoilt child

If you accuse someone, have the decency to back it up with evidence. Otherwise please realise it is only your twisted interpretation.

Racism is inherent in Humans, but it is a matter of degree, as without it our survival instincts also would not exist. So accept it, and stop accusing everyone of something you yourself exhibit in vast quantities.

You are "bored" because like a spoilt child you don't like what you hear. But clearly you are not going to hear sweet nothings from me. For as long as you post Turkish diatribes, I will restore the equilibrium.

(Anyway, maybe we are all missing the funniest person on the forum )

Well then i guess "scientifically" speaking you cannot actually blame the Turks for what they do and who they are, since they are merely just trying to "survive", i guess you are bitter because of the way we do it, but hey, life is a bitch and everyone has to survive in one way!

I think the whole "selfish gene" ordeal (as much as i personally find it extremely convincing) still falls a bit distant from politics and unfortunately no one really cares about it, or everyone would be right at what they do since pretty much everything can be boiled down to survival, and people like Piratis would just have to shut the hell up.

However, if you are such a believer in scientific reasoning then why the hell do you go around acting so ignorant and talking so much shit? Are you that bored? Or can you actually not apply your knowledge to practice or think that going with the herd mentality is just much more "convenient"?

[phoenix]

Phoenix, i don't have to quote nothing unless i am replying to something specific, which i do when it is necessary, but with you, i honestly don't see you say anything different ever, in fact its not really what you say but why you say it and the tone of your posts that i usually object to, they always begin with blaming everything on the Turks, followed by a few bigoted racial insults and then a lame joke as a finale, i think you are fucking boring to be honest and you dont seem to be aware of the depth of the generalizations you make. But that's probably just your cyber persona and I'm sure you are a lovely person otherwise

Listen Basil Fawlty, you are acting like a spoilt child

If you accuse someone, have the decency to back it up with evidence. Otherwise please realise it is only your twisted interpretation.

Racism is inherent in Humans, but it is a matter of degree, as without it our survival instincts also would not exist. So accept it, and stop accusing everyone of something you yourself exhibit in vast quantities.

You are "bored" because like a spoilt child you don't like what you hear. But clearly you are not going to hear sweet nothings from me. For as long as you post Turkish diatribes, I will restore the equilibrium.

(Anyway, maybe we are all missing the funniest person on the forum )

Well then i guess "scientifically" speaking you cannot actually blame the Turks for what they do and who they are, since they are merely just trying to "survive", i guess you are bitter because of the way we do it, but hey, life is a bitch and everyone has to survive in one way!

I think the whole "selfish gene" ordeal (as much as i personally find it extremely convincing) still falls a bit distant from politics and unfortunately no one really cares about it, or everyone would be right at what they do since pretty much everything can be boiled down to survival, and people like Piratis would just have to shut the hell up.

However, if you are such a believer in scientific reasoning then why the hell do you go around acting so ignorant and talking so much shit? Are you that bored? Or can you actually not apply your knowledge to practice or think that going with the herd mentality is just much more "convenient"?

I am never bored, I am manic, many things on the go.

But shah, you fail to grasp that more often than not, it is your personal interpretations that affect your mental well-being.

As for racism, do not use it as an excuse for atrocities. There is a difference between survival as the GCs have been trying to achieve, and the mass extinctions practiced by Turkey.

[shahmaran]

Your "survival" also led you to commit atrocities, and mass murders, and long term agendas to Greekify the island entirely, what have you got to say about that? Do you find it justifiable? Do you think what the Jews or the Kurds are doing for "survival" is justifiable?

If you are a scientist, then i assume you do not believe that these are your "god given lands" and that humans do what they do -just like all other living things- in order to increase their chances of survival.

So where does your anti-Turkishness fit with in your biological awareness?

Out of everyone here, it is you who should be able to hold the most objective angle regardless of your race, but you seem to choose to play along, maybe you enjoy it, i personally do

[phoenix]

Your "survival" also led you to commit atrocities, and mass murders, and long term agendas to Greekify the island entirely, what have you got to say about that? Do you find it justifiable? Do you think what the Jews or the Kurds are doing for "survival" is justifiable?

If you are a scientist, then i assume you do not believe that these are your "god given lands" and that humans do what they do -just like all other living things- in order to increase their chances of survival.

So where does your anti-Turkishness fit with in your biological awareness?

Out of everyone here, it is you who should be able to hold the most objective angle regardless of your race, but you seem to choose to play along, maybe you enjoy it, i personally do

No one tried to Greekify Cyprus . . . as it was always Greek (as far as the Turks were concerned).

As for anti-Turkishness, I am anti anything that I consider opposes Morality, Rights and Peace. I also object to China in Tibet etc.

I can view the Cyprus problem objectively:

The Cypriots have never mounted an offensive on a neighbour. Any conflicts were against invaders. That scientifically usually signifies a non-aggressive specimen.

The organisms that invade the territories of others (eg Turks) are termed the aggressors.

Biological conflicts ensue until the fittest survives . . . You may have the numerical advantage. But in nature, this does not hold much sway. Harmony with your environment is most likely to lead to success.

The current global environment for Humans, is in contrast to the actions of the Turks. They are the ones in a struggle to survive, unless they evolve the necessary attributes (honesty, respect, democracy etc).

May the best biological specimen win

[RebelWithoutAPause]

Your "survival" also led you to commit atrocities, and mass murders, and long term agendas to Greekify the island entirely, what have you got to say about that? Do you find it justifiable? Do you think what the Jews or the Kurds are doing for "survival" is justifiable?

Most of the island has already been 'Greekified' for the last 3,500 years. If the overwhelming majority of Cypriots want union with Greece - why is it not justifiable to accept it. Do you not find democracy justifiable? At that point in time, Cypriots had long been under imperial rule by the British and before them by the Ottoman Turks. Why is it unjustifiable for them to democratically choose their destiny as a people?...and what has the Jews and the Kurds got to do with this? If anything, the state of Israel has much the same history and actions as the Turks in Cyprus...infact the Turks in Kurdistan too. The Turks have for a long time tried to eradicate other pre-dating cultures within its borders - using inhumane laws and treatment to do so. The Kurds want to upkeep their culture - they do not want to end up like the Greeks of Asia Minor - virtually non-existant at the hands of the Turks.

If you are a scientist, then i assume you do not believe that these are your "god given lands" and that humans do what they do -just like all other living things- in order to increase their chances of survival.

Lets hope the Kurds carry on doing what humans do to increase their chance of survival.

So where does your anti-Turkishness fit with in your biological awareness?

If a people have been oppressed for almost 1,000 years by another people - then of course the dislike of the oppressors is going to be inbred into society. Its common sense!

Out of everyone here, it is you who should be able to hold the most objective angle regardless of your race, but you seem to choose to play along, maybe you enjoy it, i personally do

Worthless to reply.

Shahmaran, you still didnt answer my previous post.

[shahmaran]

You are avoiding my initial questions Phoenix which i would seriously like to know your opinion on, but yes you would be right only if you were right about us, which you are far from.

This island was not always Greek alone, and it will never be, you have proven to be just as deadly and offensive as the next person when given the chance over and over again through out history, on the other hand honesty and respect and similar moral values are thought of being nothing but heard mentality by some and are just a form of control humans preach so they can only turn around and fuck you, they should be handled with care because when it boils down to survival nothing else really matters and you have shown this to us many many times

Assimilation is what you always wanted in Cyprus and it is what you will NOT get, it should be obvious from history that Turks are allergic to it!