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[RebelWithoutAPause]

Clever boy - two ism's and a silly smiley face in one post. Your a comic genius.

It still doesnt deflect the fact that your making unfounded accusations to hide Turkish faults.

[phoenix]

Very good Shahmaran - when all else fails, start accusing people of racism...which is quite ironic coming from a facist Turk. The classic Turkish trait - accuse others of your wrong doings to deflect the shame.

You label the Greeks of being inherntly racist lol...but wasnt it Emre the Newcastle footballer who said that calling black people racist names was the norm in Turkey and he didnt realise he was doing anything wrong??? lol

Well to be honest you are no better, so i just thought it would be funny to see what you do when you get a taste of your own medicine, and guess what, you react just the same, with further generalization and racist comments.

At least i was only talking about the stereotypical ones that i have met, but idiots like you and Phoenix make no distinctions, that is PURE racism and chauvinism!

Shah we've been through this before I know, but you don't seem to learn.

If you accuse me of racism I expect you to quote what I have said that is racist.

To remind you, what I feel for Turks cannot be simplified as "racism" ...

I am incapable of being racist because of what I know.

However, what I feel for Turks unfortunately, is not as natural and widespread as racism.

[shahmaran]

Clever boy - two ism's and a silly smiley face in one post. Your a comic genius.

It still doesn't deflect the fact that your making unfounded accusations to hide Turkish faults.

I am not hiding anything my friend, i know exactly where Turkey and TCs have gone wrong but also the Greeks as well, yet it is you who is doing all the blaming here without actually taking any responsibility in YOUR actions that have also contributed greatly to the outcome we are living in at the moment, combine that with a few sweeping remarks about all Turks and that makes you the kind of person i was talking about earlier on, an exquisite racist who seems not aware of it.



Phoenix, i don't have to quote nothing unless i am replying to something specific, which i do when it is necessary, but with you, i honestly don't see you say anything different ever, in fact its not really what you say but why you say it and the tone of your posts that i usually object to, they always begin with blaming everything on the Turks, followed by a few bigoted racial insults and then a lame joke as a finale, i think you are fucking boring to be honest and you dont seem to be aware of the depth of the generalizations you make. But that's probably just your cyber persona and I'm sure you are a lovely person otherwise

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

Bill that is precisely the crux of the fact that the Turks have ethnically cleansed the north of GCs and they are not allowed back or will it also be given back .

On the other hand the RoC has never carried out such illegalities on the TCs, which is why they can just move back.

so why are we so stupid then? why do we let them come and get what`s theirs when we cant have shit in the north?

you see bill this is where us greeks are stupid! we will slowly give them the whole island without a single bullet being fired! but then thats what the whole non greek speaking world wants so thats what will happen! on top of this people like you criminalise us for putting a greek flag on our walls!

That's exactly the point I was trying to make ~ but what are the legalities involved ~~ what happens if Mr TC and his family move back ~~ what happens to the GC property in the north ~ has it or will it be sold as Mr TC has the dodgy deeds for it .

And yes I think The GC's are being really stupid whilst I can appreciate what they are trying to achieve ~~ sadly it won't work whilst GC land in the north is being sold off wholesale to foreigners.
Greek flags on Cypriot walls ~~ whats wrong with your own flag then ~ are you ashamed of it.

You have your identity ~ you have your flag ~ be proud of it.

Bill

good points and i agree we are being stupid i`ve said it all along! as for the flags thing why not both? especially those of us that have greek ancestry?

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

Perhaps Skaliotis, but the second post the guy makes is directly to insult an entire nation (although his/her 1st post had already pretty much established his/her stance on the matter), and i have met enough of these racist stereotypical Greeks around the globe enough times to spot them in a minute, can you really say the same about the Turks you meet?

Yes we might be a bit nationalistic but we definitely are not as commonly racist as you might think, and this prick is a prime example of it.

listen both sides should not blame whole nations! but do we have the right to blame the turkish government and army for their role in all of this? of coarse we can! have i met turkish people that have been and are nice to me and respectfull? of coarse i have!

[RebelWithoutAPause]

I am not hiding anything my friend, i know exactly where Turkey and TCs have gone wrong but also the Greeks as well, yet it is you who is doing all the blaming here without actually taking any responsibility in YOUR actions that have also contributed greatly to the outcome we are living in at the moment , combine that with a few sweeping remarks about all Turks and that makes you the kind of person i was talking about earlier on, an exquisite racist who seems not aware of it.

I know that Greek Cypriot commited mistakes in the past - equally so Turkish Cypriots too. But now its 2008 not 1958 or 1968 and your using false propaganda to hold Greek Cypriots from their homes and heritage in the north. Turkish Cypriots keep bashing on about the Annan Plan and how Greek Cypriots rejected it and they should be punished - yet you are too ignorant too see its substantial mistakes and expect Greek Cypriots from the north to live like second class citizens. My remarks may be slightly 'sweeping' but can honestly tell me that the majority of people today of Turkish decent are not overtly nationalistic??

...and what Greek Cypriot actions are you talking about? Are you talking about EOKA B and the Greek junta?? Like i said to another guy in another post, do you have the brain capacity to distinguish between the very large majority of people of Greece and Cyprus and the Greek junta government and EOKA B (who Turkey SUPPOSEDLY came into save Cyprus from). Do you understand that the ordinary person from Greece and Cyprus opposed these regimes??...and the difference here between the Greek people and the Turkish people is that while the Greeks stood up and deposed these regimes, Turkish people such as yourself seem to blindfully support any actions commited by the Turkish military. That is the difference I see between people of Greek origin and Turkish origin. Am I wrong here and if so how?

[Viewpoint]

I am not hiding anything my friend, i know exactly where Turkey and TCs have gone wrong but also the Greeks as well, yet it is you who is doing all the blaming here without actually taking any responsibility in YOUR actions that have also contributed greatly to the outcome we are living in at the moment , combine that with a few sweeping remarks about all Turks and that makes you the kind of person i was talking about earlier on, an exquisite racist who seems not aware of it.

I know that Greek Cypriot commited mistakes in the past - equally so Turkish Cypriots too. But now its 2008 not 1958 or 1968 and your using false propaganda to hold Greek Cypriots from their homes and heritage in the north. Turkish Cypriots keep bashing on about the Annan Plan and how Greek Cypriots rejected it and they should be punished - yet you are too ignorant too see its substantial mistakes and expect Greek Cypriots from the north to live like second class citizens. My remarks may be slightly 'sweeping' but can honestly tell me that the majority of people today of Turkish decent are not overtly nationalistic??

...and what Greek Cypriot actions are you talking about? Are you talking about EOKA B and the Greek junta?? Like i said to another guy in another post, do you have the brain capacity to distinguish between the very large majority of people of Greece and Cyprus and the Greek junta government and EOKA B (who Turkey SUPPOSEDLY came into save Cyprus from). Do you understand that the ordinary person from Greece and Cyprus opposed these regimes??...and the difference here between the Greek people and the Turkish people is that while the Greeks stood up and deposed these regimes, Turkish people such as yourself seem to blindfully support any actions commited by the Turkish military. That is the difference I see between people of Greek origin and Turkish origin. Am I wrong here and if so how?

Rebel are you aware that during the 1950s a vote was conducted to see how many wanted enosis, the polling places were strategically placed in church buildings knowing full well the TC community would not vote with an end result that 99% wanted to give Cyprus to Greece.

So cut the crap that GCs did support the enosis dream and the eradication of TCs from Cyprus as they were seen as a major stumbling block.

Have you stopped to think why TCs support Turkey? try real hard to put yourselves in our shoes for five minutes, who doesn't want to be protected from a system that was ensuring your were a second class citizen in a time when people were going missing when travelling from one village to another. Yo conveniently forget the hardship TCs endured at the hand of ruthless GC terrorist while the "majority" of GCs kept quite.

[humanist]

Hey Rebel ..... you got it all wrong mate ....... The Turkish Cypriots have done absolutely nothing wrong in all this they are victims of the big bad Greek speaking Cypriots.

[Kikapu]

Dinos, there is a perfectly good reason for my post. I wanted to bring the property issue to your attention once again. I think the responses prove beyond doubt that it has had the desired affect.

My message is loud and clear, the property boom may have slowed down a touch due to GC efforts in scaring potential buyers of legal problems in the future. The article clearly encourages the sale of GC property. So Dinos, don't you think it is time for the RoC to take some positive steps in preventing more sales of your properties? Shouldn't Papad take his head out of his own backside and start some meaningful negotiation with Talat to protect the properties of innocent GCs?

I don't have to convince anybody of my intentions for the post but contrary to what you guys may believe it was posted with the best of intentions, it is a WAKE UP call to you all.

Phoenix, this sleazebag was not endorsing the sale of GC properties, merely bringing it to your attention.

My dream home is built on TC land and paid for with hard earned cash. I have not made a single penny out of GC land nor have I benefited from the GC losses. I genuinely sympathise with all those that are at a loss and want to see a just and meaningful end to their misery.

Mr Frog,

You can blame PapaD for the reasons why GC's property is being sold off in the "TRNC", but you are blaming the wrong person. Why don't you blame the "TRNC" for first of all giving away other peoples property to others, allowing the sale of others property, and building on other peoples property, when they should have been kept in a "trust" by the occupying force, until a settlement is reached. The GC's have preserved our property in the RoC, so by comparison, they have taken the moral high road and the "TRNC" has taken the lowest possible immoral road one can imagine. Corruption starts at the top and works it's way down to the common person in all the countries where common decency is lost and "Sins of Haram" becomes the order of the day. It seems that's exactly what has become of the "TRNC" which is "Dripping with sins of Haram" with all those who have benefited in anyway from money generated from GC properties, and you yourself have also benefited one way or another, directly or indirectly, whether you know it or not or willing to admit it or not. The fact that you avoid seeing where the quilt and responsibility lies as to whose to blame for the sale of GC's properties, just goes to show how comfortable you feel calling "Haram infested TRNC" your home.

[zan]

Hey Rebel ..... you got it all wrong mate ....... The Turkish Cypriots have done absolutely nothing wrong in all this they are victims of the big bad Greek speaking Cypriots.

You still have an EOKA member and the author of the Akritas Plan in power as your president....What else do we need to say?????