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[iceman]

you are right,two wrongs do not make one right...No need for pointless arguments either...one way or the other we both got screwed in the end..

My experiences as growing up were also good...We lived bang in the middle of the Turkish quarter of Limasssol (Ankara Str.) contact with GC kids was limited to football games sometimes we had on the weekends at the municipality car park...But when i started the English School in Nicosia and stayed at the boarding house we were mixed up 24/7...TC/GC Armenian kids we all shared the same dormitories day in day out...when i look back now and think about those days,i am amazed we never had any problem communicating...we used a language which was a mixture of English/Turkish & Greek...I learned a considerable amount of Greek words in one year.Had i the chance for another year i would have spoken the language as good as any GC kid..Same applied to GC kids also,they used to pick up Turkish from us..I don't remember any kid hating another on grounds of ethnicity...we shared everything,played together,ate together,studied together,stood up for each other at times of need....I just wish i could have graduated from that school...but 1974 troubles took that chance away from me...

I very much miss Cyprus,i still have in my memories...Everyday i curse the fuckheads (as you put it) from both sides who contributed to this fuckup..I hope they all burn in hell.

[boomerang]

You are the man Iceman...I feel the same way...As you know I didn't live far from your place...Actually the primary school I attended wasn't far from your house...

I also have fond memories...The question I wanted to know Iceman, are there many people in the Nth that share the same sentiments as yourself?..And why aren't they here so we can start sharing thoughts and maybe we can find some common ground...

[Nikitas]

This base rent thing is dead simple- the bases burden the south, even an ardent partitionist can see that. So no matter what solution we arrive at, the bases are firmly on the GC side of the separation line. If and when we arrive at this much touted BBF the British will have to pay up, and the money belongs squarely to the GC side, since the TCs will get more of the territory than their population percentage warrants.

We GCs have unfinished business with the British. TCs should not get involved.

As for the legal side, we could take the UK to the European Court, (EU court not ECHR) and dust them up pretty roughly. The RoC is a unitary state still and the membership in the EU firmly clinches this side of the argument. The UK owes the money to the state and has no right to get involved in the internal problems of the RoC. The UK would have to pay. The British know this and that is why they rush and put a clause in the EU constitution to exempt their base areas from EU jurisdiction. It is a little depressing to see such a great nation behaving like a pimp.

[observer]

Nikitas

As for the legal side, we could take the UK to the European Court, (EU court not ECHR) and dust them up pretty roughly. The RoC is a unitary state still and the membership in the EU firmly clinches this side of the argument. The UK owes the money to the state and has no right to get involved in the internal problems of the RoC. The UK would have to pay. The British know this and that is why they rush and put a clause in the EU constitution to exempt their base areas from EU jurisdiction. It is a little depressing to see such a great nation behaving like a pimp.

You sound as though you might know a little more about this than I do, but there seems to be a contradiction. If there is a clause in the EU constitution excluding the base areas from EU jurisdiction, how can they be taken to the EU court over a matter over which the EU court has no jurisdiction?

[phoenix]

The Bases can be exempt from EU jurisdiction (no one is telling them how to run them) . . . . . . but what is not exempt, is the fact that they owe money to another EU country (for whatever reason) and are refusing to pay up.

[Kikapu]

we both got screwed in the end..

My experiences as growing up were also good...We lived bang in the middle of the Turkish quarter of Limasssol (Ankara Str.) contact with GC kids was limited to football games sometimes we had on the weekends at the municipality car park...But when i started the English School in Nicosia and stayed at the boarding house we were mixed up 24/7...TC/GC Armenian kids we all shared the same dormitories day in day out...when i look back now and think about those days,i am amazed we never had any problem communicating...we used a language which was a mixture of English/Turkish & Greek...I learned a considerable amount of Greek words in one year.Had i the chance for another year i would have spoken the language as good as any GC kid..Same applied to GC kids also,they used to pick up Turkish from us..I don't remember any kid hating another on grounds of ethnicity...we shared everything,played together,ate together,studied together,stood up for each other at times of need....I just wish i could have graduated from that school...but 1974 troubles took that chance away from me...

I very much miss Cyprus,i still have in my memories...Everyday i curse the fuckheads (as you put it) from both sides who contributed to this fuckup..I hope they all burn in hell.

we both got screwed in the end..

Isn't the English language wonderful to speak.

I very much miss Cyprus,i still have in my memories...Everyday i curse the fuckheads (as you put it) from both sides who contributed to this fuckup..I hope they all burn in hell

Spoken like a True Cypriot Iceman..........most admirable.!!

We need more people like you Iceman, who is willing to see the Truth, tell the Truth and expose the Criminals from the past as well as today.

[Kifeas]

As the legitimcy of the ROC and its government were founded on the concept of bi-communality.Which is enshrined in international treaties, a question of international law arises.
Cyprus membership of the EU must be illegal because it violate Article 1 of the 60 Treaty of guarantee.by virtue of which the roc bound itself '' Not partificate , in whole or in part, in any political or ecenomic union with any state whatsover '' against this roc is in EU. İt is only politicaly decision EFENDİ.

But Halil, halil, halil; why doesn't your side through Turkey pick up the invitation of the RoC to proceed together to the International Court of Justice of The Hague (ICJ,) so that we challenge each other's illegality claims?

You will challenge the legality of the RoC since 1964 and its EU accession, and we will challenge the legality of the Turkish invasion and the 33 years of occupation of the RoC by Turkey. We will both agree to abide by the findings of the court, and we will adjust our policies accordingly.

The challenging proposal by the RoC is there, for many years now. It just needs to be picked up by your side and Turkey. Until you do so, you have no shit of right to speak about illegalities, whereas we have every right to do so; for we are the ones that have called you to go the ICJ court together, and you are the ones ignoring the challenge and refusing to do so!