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BRITAIN OWES CYPRUS SINCE 1965

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Postby iceman » Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:05 am

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phoenix wrote:Could Cyprus not exercise some EU rights over this? :?

Surely one EU country cannot have Bases in another EU country without the full support of the host or with the fulfillment of contractual obligations, like paying rent or have a right to termination of contracts.


No money until a solution as they do not view just GCs as their landlords, the "RoC" is missing its TC element and for them invalid until we agree a solution.


What a load of rubbish you do talk sometimes. :roll:

The RoC is as recognised as the government of Cyprus same as it was in 1964 when presumably they did pay rent.

Both parties have to fulfill their contractual obligations no matter, and since the RoC is still entertaining their presence they are fulfilling their part of it so the UK have to pay or leave.

If you rent a property from a couple and they divorce, you don't stop paying rent.


Well....according to Wikipedia...

For four years after Cypriot independence in 1960, the British government supported the Republic of Cyprus financially. After the intercommunal conflict of 1963-64 they stopped, claiming there was no guarantee that both communities would benefit equally from that money. The Cypriot government is still claiming money for the years from 1964 to now although to date has taken no international legal action to test the validity of their claim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akrotiri_and_Dhekelia
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Postby humanist » Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:14 am

The British will give jack shit.........

Is it perhaps the very reason they are being passive aggressive towards Cyprus and neglecting to assist in a solution to the Cypro?
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:16 am

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Do you think your greedy leaders have not tried to suck this money into your economy before? they got jack shit, the Brits said they cannot just pay GCs and offered to pay 70% to GCs & 30% to TCs but GCs wanted it all and refused the deal because they did not want us to benefit.


What you say may or may not be true, as far as the Brits offering to pay anything towards the bases. Just how do you know anyway, what the Brits asked the RoC to do with the "rent money", the 70%-30% split. After all, the Brits only recognises the RoC and not the "TRNC", so why would they even care where the money goes or how it is shared. I think personally, if the Brits did made the 70%-30% split plan, it was made so that it would be rejected by the RoC so that the Brits would avoid paying anything at all, or else they could have paid the 70% to the RoC and put the other 30% into some kind of escrow account, to be given to the TC's upon a settlement. I'm afraid the Brits did not have the best interest of the TC's at heart, when paying nothing at all for the bases was much better option, over paying 100% rent due to the RoC. They could not recognise the RoC and then they alone decide how the money is used in Cyprus. Who says that the Brits are STUPID.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:46 am

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Do you think your greedy leaders have not tried to suck this money into your economy before? they got jack shit, the Brits said they cannot just pay GCs and offered to pay 70% to GCs & 30% to TCs but GCs wanted it all and refused the deal because they did not want us to benefit.


What you say may or may not be true, as far as the Brits offering to pay anything towards the bases. Just how do you know anyway, what the Brits asked the RoC to do with the "rent money", the 70%-30% split. After all, the Brits only recognises the RoC and not the "TRNC", so why would they even care where the money goes or how it is shared. I think personally, if the Brits did made the 70%-30% split plan, it was made so that it would be rejected by the RoC so that the Brits would avoid paying anything at all, or else they could have paid the 70% to the RoC and put the other 30% into some kind of escrow account, to be given to the TC's upon a settlement. I'm afraid the Brits did not have the best interest of the TC's at heart, when paying nothing at all for the bases was much better option, over paying 100% rent due to the RoC. They could not recognise the RoC and then they alone decide how the money is used in Cyprus. Who says that the Brits are STUPID.


There are 2 sides to this dispute and the Brits will make excuses not to pay and hide behind what they know we idiots can never agree a solution. They are on a pretty good bet that they get the bases for free for many many years well into the future.
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Postby phoenix » Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:51 am

Viewpoint wrote:
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Do you think your greedy leaders have not tried to suck this money into your economy before? they got jack shit, the Brits said they cannot just pay GCs and offered to pay 70% to GCs & 30% to TCs but GCs wanted it all and refused the deal because they did not want us to benefit.


What you say may or may not be true, as far as the Brits offering to pay anything towards the bases. Just how do you know anyway, what the Brits asked the RoC to do with the "rent money", the 70%-30% split. After all, the Brits only recognises the RoC and not the "TRNC", so why would they even care where the money goes or how it is shared. I think personally, if the Brits did made the 70%-30% split plan, it was made so that it would be rejected by the RoC so that the Brits would avoid paying anything at all, or else they could have paid the 70% to the RoC and put the other 30% into some kind of escrow account, to be given to the TC's upon a settlement. I'm afraid the Brits did not have the best interest of the TC's at heart, when paying nothing at all for the bases was much better option, over paying 100% rent due to the RoC. They could not recognise the RoC and then they alone decide how the money is used in Cyprus. Who says that the Brits are STUPID.


There are 2 sides to this dispute and the Brits will make excuses not to pay and hide behind what they know we idiots can never agree a solution. They are on a pretty good bet that they get the bases for free for many many years well into the future.


I think the difference must surely lie in the fact the RoC is an EU country now.

As soon as the elections are over, if no one is making progress on this non-payment, I'm personally going to do something about highlighting this injustice. My New Year Resolution :D
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Postby iceman » Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:53 am

phoenix wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Do you think your greedy leaders have not tried to suck this money into your economy before? they got jack shit, the Brits said they cannot just pay GCs and offered to pay 70% to GCs & 30% to TCs but GCs wanted it all and refused the deal because they did not want us to benefit.


What you say may or may not be true, as far as the Brits offering to pay anything towards the bases. Just how do you know anyway, what the Brits asked the RoC to do with the "rent money", the 70%-30% split. After all, the Brits only recognises the RoC and not the "TRNC", so why would they even care where the money goes or how it is shared. I think personally, if the Brits did made the 70%-30% split plan, it was made so that it would be rejected by the RoC so that the Brits would avoid paying anything at all, or else they could have paid the 70% to the RoC and put the other 30% into some kind of escrow account, to be given to the TC's upon a settlement. I'm afraid the Brits did not have the best interest of the TC's at heart, when paying nothing at all for the bases was much better option, over paying 100% rent due to the RoC. They could not recognise the RoC and then they alone decide how the money is used in Cyprus. Who says that the Brits are STUPID.


There are 2 sides to this dispute and the Brits will make excuses not to pay and hide behind what they know we idiots can never agree a solution. They are on a pretty good bet that they get the bases for free for many many years well into the future.


I think the difference must surely lie in the fact the RoC is an EU country now.

As soon as the elections are over, if no one is making progress on this non-payment, I'm personally going to do something about highlighting this injustice. My New Year Resolution :D


You won't forget our cut will you?? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby phoenix » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:03 am

iceman wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Do you think your greedy leaders have not tried to suck this money into your economy before? they got jack shit, the Brits said they cannot just pay GCs and offered to pay 70% to GCs & 30% to TCs but GCs wanted it all and refused the deal because they did not want us to benefit.


What you say may or may not be true, as far as the Brits offering to pay anything towards the bases. Just how do you know anyway, what the Brits asked the RoC to do with the "rent money", the 70%-30% split. After all, the Brits only recognises the RoC and not the "TRNC", so why would they even care where the money goes or how it is shared. I think personally, if the Brits did made the 70%-30% split plan, it was made so that it would be rejected by the RoC so that the Brits would avoid paying anything at all, or else they could have paid the 70% to the RoC and put the other 30% into some kind of escrow account, to be given to the TC's upon a settlement. I'm afraid the Brits did not have the best interest of the TC's at heart, when paying nothing at all for the bases was much better option, over paying 100% rent due to the RoC. They could not recognise the RoC and then they alone decide how the money is used in Cyprus. Who says that the Brits are STUPID.


There are 2 sides to this dispute and the Brits will make excuses not to pay and hide behind what they know we idiots can never agree a solution. They are on a pretty good bet that they get the bases for free for many many years well into the future.


I think the difference must surely lie in the fact the RoC is an EU country now.

As soon as the elections are over, if no one is making progress on this non-payment, I'm personally going to do something about highlighting this injustice. My New Year Resolution :D


You won't forget our cut will you?? :lol: :lol: :lol:


Are you rejoining us in the South then?

BTW does Turkey pay for having a Base too?

I'll be on to them next . . . :lol:
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Postby humanist » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:14 am

My dear phoenix nothing will stop the unethical British to get their own way. They are selling Cyprus to Turkey each and everyday by opening yet another capter in membership discussions. They care less about Cyprus than ever before the EU is a joke.

What they are saying to the world is, you can be a big nation invade another occupy its territory breach human right laws, and other international lwas and you will be rewarded.

I hope Russia makes it again as a super power. Too much imbalance in power between the criminal British along with her majesty and the Americans.

Cyprus has been sold by the germans and the britts, I say expell the british embassy from cyprus.
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Postby DINOS SKALIOTIS » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:03 am

humanist wrote:My dear phoenix nothing will stop the unethical British to get their own way. They are selling Cyprus to Turkey each and everyday by opening yet another capter in membership discussions. They care less about Cyprus than ever before the EU is a joke.

What they are saying to the world is, you can be a big nation invade another occupy its territory breach human right laws, and other international lwas and you will be rewarded.

I hope Russia makes it again as a super power. Too much imbalance in power between the criminal British along with her majesty and the Americans.

Cyprus has been sold by the germans and the britts, I say expell the british embassy from cyprus.


russia is plenty powerful enough dont you worry about that! the question is are we clever enough to use that fact to our advantage or will we simply carry on selling ourselves out to the anglo americans as per our usual treacherous selves! had we done the right thing years ago we wouldnt have a cyprus problem or english bases right now
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Postby boomerang » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:20 am

What goes around comes around...it's the boomerang effect...give it 20 or so years and london will be known as Londonstan...Then we will see their little red ass... :lol:

why do yo think the poms are departing the UK in droves? :lol: :lol:
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