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[Bananiot]

...and so what if Cyprus isnt completely secular?? What has that go to do with anything? Infact, Cyprus isnt really a secular state at all. So what??

I have no answer to this. Probably we have the state we deserve ...

[RebelWithoutAPause]

Are you going to answer or carry on showing us the fool that you are......

No Zan...im not going to answer. Im the fool and your the brains who believes Turkish fascist propaganda over geographical scientists with regards to how the island came into existance. We'll keep it like that brain-box

[zan]

Are you going to answer or carry on showing us the fool that you are......

No Zan...im not going to answer. Im the fool and your the brains who believes Turkish fascist propaganda over geographical scientists with regards to how the island came into existance. We'll keep it like that brain-box

Nothing to do with Turkish geologist...If you know, and you said you had studied it, then let us in on your findings...Come on.......Chiken shit....

I'm waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RebelWithoutAPause]

Zan i said i read up on it not taken my own studies. I cant believe your being so petty and stupid that you even believe the Turkish fascist version of the island in pre-history!

...and the guy who watched a man beating a woman and didnt do anything but phone the police (SECRETLY)...calls me 'chicken shit'. Your a joker Zan

[zan]

Zan i said i read up on it not taken my own studies. I cant believe your being so petty and stupid that you even believe the Turkish fascist version of the island in pre-history!

...and the guy who watched a man beating a woman and didnt do anything but phone the police (SECRETLY)...calls me 'chicken shit'. Your a joker Zan

I have a brain and used it rather that go in and get myself stabbed for a prostitute......Now cut the smoke screen shit and tell us what you read that made you come to your conclusions...I am interested.....Was e Volcanic eruptions the same ones that spewed out the first Greeks on the island too!!!!!

[phoenix]

Of course it is common practice phoenix. The excuse they find is that they bless the arms only for defensive wars.

We are certainly not like Iran here but we are a long way from a secular society, in practice that is. The other day they brought some bones from some "saint" from Ayios Oros and the whole government went to the airport and the bones were given a head of state welcome. A guard of honour was in place too, made up of soldiers. The bones were then put on display in a church in Lakatameia and when people did not turn up in the expected numbers to visit, the bearer of the bones, Gerontas Efraim, went on television to claim that the bones cured deaf, blind and other sick people. The next day thousands made their way to the church to kiss the box in which the bones were kept.

Are these the signs of a secular society Phoenix?

Where did I say we are a secular society

I thought we were talking politics.

I said:

"The RoC certainly is not an advocate of such practices" . . . .

..... and compared it the headscarf wearing wife of the Turkish leader (who are most definetely of religious persuasion).

[zan]

Of course it is common practice phoenix. The excuse they find is that they bless the arms only for defensive wars.

We are certainly not like Iran here but we are a long way from a secular society, in practice that is. The other day they brought some bones from some "saint" from Ayios Oros and the whole government went to the airport and the bones were given a head of state welcome. A guard of honour was in place too, made up of soldiers. The bones were then put on display in a church in Lakatameia and when people did not turn up in the expected numbers to visit, the bearer of the bones, Gerontas Efraim, went on television to claim that the bones cured deaf, blind and other sick people. The next day thousands made their way to the church to kiss the box in which the bones were kept.

Are these the signs of a secular society Phoenix?

Where did I say we are a secular society

I thought we were talking politics.

I said:

"The RoC certainly is not an advocate of such practices" . . . .

..... and compared it the headscarf wearing wife of the Turkish leader (who are most definetely of religious persuasion).

What happened...Did GR leave you as head propagandist in his absence..... They blessed the weapons and the aries they sent to slay those that stood in their way.......What is so hard for you to understand....

[Bananiot]

Isn't it best to compare us to our European stakeholders? The church of Cyprus has profound influence in the Cyprus state and this does not make me happy, just because Gul's wife wears a head scarf!

[denizaksulu]

OK - lets take this Shahmaran guy for example. He believes that the island of Cyprus was split from the mainland of Asia Minor through evoloution. This opinion of fact, as you probably know, is false because we both know that such a theory was devised by Turkish extreme nationalists to somehow throw weight behind that Cyprus belongs to Turkey. We also know (through reading credible scientific facts) that the island of Cyprus was born through volcanic interuptions in the eastern Med - with the Mesaoria or Troodos mountain ranges probably being the tip of the volcanos.

Now, do you expect me to respect Shahmaran's opinion which is driven by extreme nationalism as opposed to unbiased scientific research? Which of the two opinions commands your respect? After all, you said yourself that the kind of people who believed that Cyprus was a part of mainland Asia Minor were most probably illitirate.

This is just an example of how I judge peoples opinions on this website and weigh up if they command respect or not.

Rebel . . . you are quite right of course.

It's very difficult to present facts to the Turk-TCs because they are unfamiliar with understanding them without looking for ways to distort them or ignore anything that does not fit in with their wish-fulfillments.

I've tried to give them some idea on the growth of Cyprus before:

Here's what I've surmised so far on the origins of Cyprus:

Cyprus rose from the sea some 11 Million years ago from volcanic activity on what was then a Troodos island. Since then, the African continent has been on collision with Europe and Cyprus has been getting squeezed further upwards and out of the sea-bed. (So it's getting bigger ! )

However, it now looks like Turkey and Greece are on their way to join us whether we want them to or not!

http://virtualexplorer.com.au/journal/2 ... aper2.html

Lets give a big hand for Phoenix. The only educated, scientific GC mind on this forum. What would life be without her.

Hi dear, packed your bags yet.

. . . No, but I travel light

Cyprus has all I need . . .

I thought you were moving there? What about your garbage bins? Yout find many in Cyprus. You will need them for all the rubbish you produce

[denizaksulu]

I can not tell if we are talking of the same photo. I am searching. If you have one handy, lets see. It may or may not be the same pic in question.

I think i know of the photo your searching for - its the one all Turkish Cypriots use to try and say that it shows Makarios with an EOKA member blessing a grenade.

Can I ask you something tho Deniz; you seem to be one of the few level headed Turkish Cypriots on this forum....but why do you believe such a wild accusation. Because there is something round shaped in the hand of Makarios in that picture - does it automatically mean its a grenade and he's blessing it??? lol...Ive seen the picture and you really cant make out what it is. Infact, I thought i could see a chain attached to the object so i thought it was some kind of religious pendulem.

If it was a grenade he must be crazy to have it in his hand in a crowd full of people. Grenades are meant to be thrown not held onto lol.

Good on you tho - you must be one of the very few Turkish Cypriots not to have that picture save to their hard disks to use as internet propaganda when needs be. Ask Zan tho...im sure he has it at hand.

It might be the same pic we are talking about, but the blessings of the black robed priest would be undeniable. It could have been an incense burner in his hand, but I dont have the pic at hand to commet. Why do you think he was there? Just to ask him in for a cup of Turkish coffee? or to chastise them for 'killing' gods two legged creatures?