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[RebelWithoutAPause]

Personal insults are not necessary.
Apart from that , whenever has there been a concensus of opinion. If whatever we say is rubbish, the same will go the other way too. Not many of us (forumers) are respecters of others opinions. That I think we agree upon.Lets cut out what happened in the past, we delve too much on it and let us look to the future.

Its all good looking into the future but you get people using their version of the past as an excuse to restrict Cypriot human rights in the future.

Thats how we start to talk about history again.

...and Deniz, I like to use common sense with regards to opinions. When certain peoples opinions are forged by extreme nationalism which is blatent to see - do you think their opinions should be respected?

OK - lets take this Shahmaran guy for example. He believes that the island of Cyprus was split from the mainland of Asia Minor through evoloution. This opinion of fact, as you probably know, is false because we both know that such a theory was devised by Turkish extreme nationalists to somehow throw weight behind that Cyprus belongs to Turkey. We also know (through reading credible scientific facts) that the island of Cyprus was born through volcanic interuptions in the eastern Med - with the Mesaoria or Troodos mountain ranges probably being the tip of the volcanos.

Now, do you expect me to respect Shahmaran's opinion which is driven by extreme nationalism as opposed to unbiased scientific research? Which of the two opinions commands your respect? After all, you said yourself that the kind of people who believed that Cyprus was a part of mainland Asia Minor were most probably illitirate.

This is just an example of how I judge peoples opinions on this website and weigh up if they command respect or not.

[denizaksulu]

Personal insults are not necessary.
Apart from that , whenever has there been a concensus of opinion. If whatever we say is rubbish, the same will go the other way too. Not many of us (forumers) are respecters of others opinions. That I think we agree upon.Lets cut out what happened in the past, we delve too much on it and let us look to the future.

Its all good looking into the future but you get people using their version of the past as an excuse to restrict Cypriot human rights in the future.

Thats how we start to talk about history again.

...and Deniz, I like to use common sense with regards to opinions. When certain peoples opinions are forged by extreme nationalism which is blatent to see - do you think their opinions should be respected.

OK - lets take this Shahmaran guy for example. He believes that the island of Cyprus was split from the mainland of Asia Minor through evoloution. This opinion of fact, as you probably know, is false because we both know that such a theory was devised by Turkish extreme nationalists to somehow throw weight behind that Cyprus belongs to Turkey. We also know (through reading credible scientific facts) that the island of Cyprus was born through volcanic interuptions in the eastern Med - with the Mesaoria or Troodos mountain ranges probably being the tip of the volcanos.

Now, do you expect me to respect Shahmaran's opinion which is driven by extreme nationalism as opposed to unbiased scientific research? Which of the two opinions commands your respect? After all, you said yourself that the kind of people who believed that Cyprus was a part of mainland Asia Minor were most probably illitirate.

This is just an example of how I judge peoples opinions on this website and weigh up if they command respect or not.

Ok, we will tell shahmaran to read about the techtonic plates and the shift of the continent towards southern Europe and Asia minor.

Shahmarans attitude is no different from a Greek priest blessing the bullets that will kill fellow Cypriots.

Mind you I have never come accross any such literature that you mention. Then you might say that I look and not see. But you are mistaken.

Still there is no excuse to tarnish the forum lines with colorful expletives or personal attacks, whatever is said.

Maybe the cyprob began with the action of the techtonic plates. That beats Piratis Alexander and the early settlers in Cyprus. I am getting a bit OTT here.

Some of us know, some of us dont. Let us enlighten those who dont know. That goes to both sides. What we need is good 'teachers'.

[RebelWithoutAPause]

Shahmarans attitude is no different from a Greek priest blessing the bullets that will kill fellow Cypriots.

Where did you hear this?? lol

It might be true I dont know - but im eager to know where you heard it.

[denizaksulu]

Shahmarans attitude is no different from a Greek priest blessing the bullets that will kill fellow Cypriots.

Where did you hear this?? lol

It might be true I dont know - but im eager to know where you heard it.

There have been photos of Arch. Makarios with Grivas/ and or Eoka members being blessed, during the 'Emergency@/ Or are they TC fabrications too?

Someone might find and publish it. I will try and find it.

[RebelWithoutAPause]

You mean the photo where Makarios is holding some kind of pendant in his hand and the Turkish media is saying its a grenade and blessing it? lol

[denizaksulu]

You mean the photo where Makarios is holding some kind of pendant in his hand and the Turkish media is saying its a grenade and blessing it? lol

I can not tell if we are talking of the same photo. I am searching. If you have one handy, lets see. It may or may not be the same pic in question.

[phoenix]

OK - lets take this Shahmaran guy for example. He believes that the island of Cyprus was split from the mainland of Asia Minor through evoloution. This opinion of fact, as you probably know, is false because we both know that such a theory was devised by Turkish extreme nationalists to somehow throw weight behind that Cyprus belongs to Turkey. We also know (through reading credible scientific facts) that the island of Cyprus was born through volcanic interuptions in the eastern Med - with the Mesaoria or Troodos mountain ranges probably being the tip of the volcanos.

Now, do you expect me to respect Shahmaran's opinion which is driven by extreme nationalism as opposed to unbiased scientific research? Which of the two opinions commands your respect? After all, you said yourself that the kind of people who believed that Cyprus was a part of mainland Asia Minor were most probably illitirate.

This is just an example of how I judge peoples opinions on this website and weigh up if they command respect or not.

Rebel . . . you are quite right of course.

It's very difficult to present facts to the Turk-TCs because they are unfamiliar with understanding them without looking for ways to distort them or ignore anything that does not fit in with their wish-fulfillments.

I've tried to give them some idea on the growth of Cyprus before:

Here's what I've surmised so far on the origins of Cyprus:

Cyprus rose from the sea some 11 Million years ago from volcanic activity on what was then a Troodos island. Since then, the African continent has been on collision with Europe and Cyprus has been getting squeezed further upwards and out of the sea-bed. (So it's getting bigger ! )

However, it now looks like Turkey and Greece are on their way to join us whether we want them to or not!

http://virtualexplorer.com.au/journal/2 ... aper2.html

[denizaksulu]

OK - lets take this Shahmaran guy for example. He believes that the island of Cyprus was split from the mainland of Asia Minor through evoloution. This opinion of fact, as you probably know, is false because we both know that such a theory was devised by Turkish extreme nationalists to somehow throw weight behind that Cyprus belongs to Turkey. We also know (through reading credible scientific facts) that the island of Cyprus was born through volcanic interuptions in the eastern Med - with the Mesaoria or Troodos mountain ranges probably being the tip of the volcanos.

Now, do you expect me to respect Shahmaran's opinion which is driven by extreme nationalism as opposed to unbiased scientific research? Which of the two opinions commands your respect? After all, you said yourself that the kind of people who believed that Cyprus was a part of mainland Asia Minor were most probably illitirate.

This is just an example of how I judge peoples opinions on this website and weigh up if they command respect or not.

Rebel . . . you are quite right of course.

It's very difficult to present facts to the Turk-TCs because they are unfamiliar with understanding them without looking for ways to distort them or ignore anything that does not fit in with their wish-fulfillments.

I've tried to give them some idea on the growth of Cyprus before:

Here's what I've surmised so far on the origins of Cyprus:

Cyprus rose from the sea some 11 Million years ago from volcanic activity on what was then a Troodos island. Since then, the African continent has been on collision with Europe and Cyprus has been getting squeezed further upwards and out of the sea-bed. (So it's getting bigger ! )

However, it now looks like Turkey and Greece are on their way to join us whether we want them to or not!

http://virtualexplorer.com.au/journal/2 ... aper2.html

Lets give a big hand for Phoenix. The only educated, scientific GC mind on this forum. What would life be without her.

Hi dear, packed your bags yet.

[phoenix]

OK - lets take this Shahmaran guy for example. He believes that the island of Cyprus was split from the mainland of Asia Minor through evoloution. This opinion of fact, as you probably know, is false because we both know that such a theory was devised by Turkish extreme nationalists to somehow throw weight behind that Cyprus belongs to Turkey. We also know (through reading credible scientific facts) that the island of Cyprus was born through volcanic interuptions in the eastern Med - with the Mesaoria or Troodos mountain ranges probably being the tip of the volcanos.

Now, do you expect me to respect Shahmaran's opinion which is driven by extreme nationalism as opposed to unbiased scientific research? Which of the two opinions commands your respect? After all, you said yourself that the kind of people who believed that Cyprus was a part of mainland Asia Minor were most probably illitirate.

This is just an example of how I judge peoples opinions on this website and weigh up if they command respect or not.

Rebel . . . you are quite right of course.

It's very difficult to present facts to the Turk-TCs because they are unfamiliar with understanding them without looking for ways to distort them or ignore anything that does not fit in with their wish-fulfillments.

I've tried to give them some idea on the growth of Cyprus before:

Here's what I've surmised so far on the origins of Cyprus:

Cyprus rose from the sea some 11 Million years ago from volcanic activity on what was then a Troodos island. Since then, the African continent has been on collision with Europe and Cyprus has been getting squeezed further upwards and out of the sea-bed. (So it's getting bigger ! )

However, it now looks like Turkey and Greece are on their way to join us whether we want them to or not!

http://virtualexplorer.com.au/journal/2 ... aper2.html

Lets give a big hand for Phoenix. The only educated, scientific GC mind on this forum. What would life be without her.

Hi dear, packed your bags yet.

. . . No, but I travel light

Cyprus has all I need . . .

[Bananiot]

This is no joke. Santa Barbara is the protector of the Greek artillery. Saint Nicholas protects the Greek warships and the list goes on. Divine help has never harmed anyone, only our common sense ...