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[Issy1956]

Observer,
Game set and match to you I think!

[Piratis]

observer, sorry to break your bubble but a court of a 3rd country can not decide about the legality of an invasion against another country.

Who can decide about what is legal in Cyprus is Republic of Cyprus and the UN.

The truth is that it is the Turks who have been butchering the Cypriots for centuries, and what some "person said", or some "document wrote" was not an excuse for your illegal invasion and occupation, and this is why the UN did not buy your cheap excuses and demanded the immediate withdrawal of the occupation troops from Cyprus.

[cymart]

Well at least me and Piratis agree on something and I will defend his rights to say what he thinks on the that principle alone!It's pity the present leadership in Cyprus is not so tolerant of those who disagree with them though...
Coming back to the supposedly wonderful Russian regime,I wouldl really recommend anyone with about 90 minutes to spare to go to Google videos and watch the documentary called 'Disbelief 1999- Russia'.I am not passing judgment on whether the F.S.B. is to blame for the appartment bombings or not but hope it at least makes people think about what kind of regime runs the largest country in the world and which some Greek-Cypriots still naively believe really cares about what happens here etc.....
But as we may well have a President very soon who was initiated by the old Papaioannou pro-Soviet mentality,it might be worth remembering that rather uncomfortable fact.Christophias may still try to boast that he is a 'village boy from Dikomo' etc but I have seen some of these former so-called Communist apparatchiks in Russia during my time there not so long ago and they are among the most corrupt,greedy and immoral people you could imagine, posing as 'businessmeny!!'

[bilako22]

Piratis is quite correct , only the Turkish hating ROC can decide if 1974 was the year of invasion or liberation.

[Bananiot]

Those of you who haven't read Costas Zepos in "Politis" on Sunday should do so immediately. Pity the piece is not on line (somehow, I cannot find it in archives) but, if you have a way, do try to find Sunday's paper. It is a must. A masterpiece!

[cymart]

Dionysos Dionysious article is excellent too-I wonder what the 'rejectionists' would say to counter what he says???

Happy New Year and stick around-this loony asylum needs people like you to prevent the rest of us sensible people from going mad!!

[denizaksulu]

The division is a direct result of you invading and illegally occupying 1/3rd of our country. So cut the lame excuses.

Piratis, before I bid you Happy New Year, the Cyprus Problem DID NOT BEGIN IN 1974.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

[denizaksulu]

Those of you who haven't read Costas Zepos in "Politis" on Sunday should do so immediately. Pity the piece is not on line (somehow, I cannot find it in archives) but, if you have a way, do try to find Sunday's paper. It is a must. A masterpiece!

Isnt there anyone who could translate into English the main points of this article? Or is for GC eyes only?

HAPPY NEW YEAR

[Bananiot]

Happy New year to you Deniz and the rest of the forumers. Its a long article and quite a comprehensive one. May be in the morning I'll attempt to give a summary. I have seen Dionisiou's article cymart too and I agree with you but I feel my friend Dionisis used the logic of Zepos whose article he must have had well in advance, being a regular staff at "Politis".

Costas Zepos cannot be accused of treason because he has served well Greece and Hellenism from various posts in many different organisations, committes and embassies.

[Kifeas]

Piratis

The invasion not only it was not necessary but it was also criminal, illegal and inexcusable.

Wrong again!

The Athens Court of Appeal, in its decision of March 21, 1979, also held that the "intervention of Turkey in Cyprus was legal: ".... The Turkish military intervention in Cyprus which was carried out in accordance with the Zurich and London Agreements was legal
Decision no: 2658/79 Dated 23/3/79

Can't really accuse the Athens Court of Appeal as biased can you.

As for inexcusable:

The Greek newspaper Eleftherotipia published an interview with Nicos Sampson on 26th February 1981 in which he said "Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed ENOSIS - I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus

Listen you Turkish "ich-oglan!"

1. Who decides whether an international dispute or military operation is legal or not, it is not a national court of any one country, but it is instead the business of international courts and organizations! To this end -in our firm conviction that the Turkish invasion was illegal because it was against and in violation of the provisions of the UN Charter -the highest international treaty in terms of precedence, we have many times invited Turkey to go together to the ICJ of the Hague and sort there the question of the illegality of the Turkish invasion! Turkey -obviously fearing that the ruling would have been against itself, refused to respond to this invitation!

2. Sampson was a puppet of the Greek junta coupists, and was placed as "president" of the coupist "government" after 3-4 other persons refused to play the same role. Among them, one was Clerides! Sampson did not take an initiative to make the coup, nor was he in a position to tell the Junta generals what actions to take in Cyprus or not! He was only a puppet figure to a puppet "government," and the real authority with the power in its hands was the Junta in mainland Greece and its officer instruments in Cyprus! To this end, it is irrelevant what Sampson may have said he wanted to do or not, when he was placed as a puppet "president!"

3. I have looked at the newspaper you quoted, for the above date, but I have not found any interview from Sampson in there -set aside one in which he claims what you have "quoted" him saying! If you have a copy from such interview in which he says what you claim, then publish it here!