DINOS SKALIOTIS wrote:phoenix wrote:DINOS SKALIOTIS wrote:phoenix wrote:DINOS SKALIOTIS wrote:phoenix wrote:DINOS SKALIOTIS wrote:phoenix wrote:rajput49 wrote:christianity has become only beleiving in miracles.to whoever u talk about religion on island they are mentioning only miracles that this and that saint did there is no mention of GOD anywhere infact virgin marry has taken over the place that should be of only and only GOD not to any human being irrespective of as holy as marry or anyother.its very strange that we are in this age of science and still people around us are talking about miracles that can be good for people living in ages ago.i think we should discuss with everyone we know to bring back christianity to its original position.and think what we beleive do we practice as well???
Interesting commentary rajput.
Perhaps people are becoming disenchanted with religion. There is almost widespread acceptance amongst the educated that God does not exist. There is also no rational reason for needing a God to create the Universe, life etc as all these can be explained by Science.
However, people still need a safe make-believe world where things can go the way they want them to go. Hence the growing belief in "miracles".
Christianity going back to its original position would be very sad indeed as in a lot of ways it was very oppressive.
well you say that and i dont agree! science has many holes in it! they cant explain many things! The problem is that christianity has been diluted by many man made philosphies and perverse practicies! if we stuck to the bible and done what we were meant to nothing more and nothing less it works! but the greek orthodox church dont do this and with there mumbo-jumbo and miracles they are just a money making machine and a way of keeping little old ladies dressed in black in line.
you say that christianity was oppressive
how do you mean? i dont think that it was! in fact i think the opposite
"Holes" in science are just information in progress . . . in time, there is no foreseeable reason why they should not be filled.
As for oppressive, think what Christianity did to suppress the Heliocentric model (Copernicus, Galileo etc) of the solar system.
A further simple example in the Greek Orthodox church, women are restricted from practicing in priesthood, visiting behind the eikonostasi, and not that long ago had to sit separate from the men.
"information in progress" oh please is that the best the scientists can do? not good enough!
as i have already stated religions such as greek orthodox are rubbish!
you are just agreeing with me there! those rules you are complaining about are man made rules not in the bible therefore not christian whatsoever! you have the right to say the orthodox religion is wrong and i would agree with you 100 % but my point is that the they are not true christians! to be a christian is not to do just what the "baba" tells you
Your outright dismissal of science is purely a personal opinion.
Scientists do not perform "miracles" and as such are in a constant flux of research from where the answers usually arise. Instant results are not scientific.
Regarding your man made rules . . . all
religions are man made. They are recorded by men and they are related by men as stories. Thus subject to distortion.
We have Human Rights, and we have strong moral codes as people inherent in our survival mechanisms, and therefore selected by evolution anyway. So we do not need a religion to be good people.
so basically what you are saying is that you believe you came from a monkey? well you are also welcome to your opinion ofcoarse and maybe you are right about yourself but my family never came from monkeys
Evolution is not about coming from "monkeys". We shared
common ancestors with the apes and previous to that monkeys and previous to that rodents and previous to that marsupials etc etc down to basic DNA.
How do you explain the high degree of similarity between yourself and the Bonobo for example?
Do you now dispute evidence for Evolution?
Did God make a mistake with dinosaurs
what a croc! so if we came from these "bonobo" monkeys as you put it how come they also exist then? genetically we share as much dna with monkeys as we do with cockroaches! so does that mean that we also came from those? despite what people have been told monkeys have totally different hips to us and that is why they cant walk in an upright position! yes i do dispute evolution! god did not make a mistake with dinosaurs, had you bothered to read the bible half as much as you read the writings of darwin et al you would know that god did create all manner of huge wild beasts that roamed the earth! before he ever created man. the answers are there, if we can be bothered to find them!
DINOS you misunderstand Evolution totally. As I have already said we share "common ancestors". The common ancestors gave rise to modern day Bonobo and to modern man. It's not about evolving from today's existing monkeys . . . we just share a common predecessor.
This is the hardest concept to understand in Evolution . . . which is why the common comment is "If we evolved from chimps why are they still around?"
As for the Bible, I've read about half from both Testaments. The Old Testament is truly an evil book, with murder, sexism, racism etc . . . and apart from the philosophical teachings of Jesus in the New Testament, the same goes for that.
If History had been a little different we may all have still been believing in the twelve gods of Mount Olympus. So we stopped believing in all of them except for "Zeus" . . . and now it's just a matter of going one step further and ridding ourselves of that last remaining "god".
I don't believe in "science" . . . it is not a faith. I use
scientific principles to scrutinise the world around me.
