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What If There Was Partition.

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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:15 pm

It clearly states the isolation on the TCs, you may ignore the reality but it will keep rearing its ugly head which like it or not will continue to be a thorn in your side until it is resolved: The pressure will be on in 2008 more so on the "European" GCs to show vision and compromise otherwise we will take a few more step closer to agreed partition.
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Postby zan » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:16 pm

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Piratis wrote:Really? Can you show me any UN document that says that there is an isolation of TCs since 1963? Or you want as to believe your propaganda?


Have you not read the documents by both Annan amd Moon clearly stating that the isoaltion on the TC shoule be removed, or have the GCs had these erased?

The United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon has called on the UN Security Council to lift the international isolation imposed on the Turkish Cypriot people.

Mr Ban’s call came in his latest report, in which he called on the Council to extend the mandate of the UN Peace Keeping Force in Cyprus for another 6 months.

The Turkish Cypriot Side has welcomed the report as `positive`.

The UN Secretary General Ban presented his report on Cyprus to the UN Security Council recommending the extension of the UNFICYP’s mandate for another six months, until the 30th of June 2008.

In the report, Mr Ban calls on the Council to end the isolation imposed on the Turkish Cypriot people, calling it as a move which will contribute to the reunification of the island.

Expressing the view that 2008 could bring about a comprehensive solution to the Cyprus problem, Mr Ban called on the two sides in Cyprus to refrain from blame game and to show flexibility and political courage.
In the report, he also called for the implementation of the 8-July Agreement and the Confidence Building Measures proposed by the two sides.

Meanwhile, the Presidential Spokesperson Hasan Ercakica has welcomed the report as a positive document.

Speaking during his weekly press briefing, the spokesperson said that a brief evaluation of the report showed that it includes objective and realistic evaluations on the Cyprus issue.

He said the Turkish Cypriot Side shares the view expressed by the UN Chief that the 2008 will be a crucial year for the Cyprus problem.
`Mr Ban’s view fully coincides with the proposals tabled by President Mehmet Ali Talat during last September’s leaders’ meeting` he said, reminding that the proposals envisage the solution of the Cyprus problem by the end of 2008.

Pointing out that the report underlines the need for concrete steps towards bringing about a solution to the Cyprus problem, he said `the address of this call is the Greek Cypriot Side, which has been playing for time to delay the solution of the Cyprus problem`.

He added that the Turkish Cypriot Side has been working hard for the resumption of fully-fledged negotiations.

Welcoming the UN Chief’s call for the lifting of the isolation on the Turkish Cypriot people as a move encouraging the solution of the Cyprus problem, he said ‘it is very meaningful that Mr Ban finds it disappointing that the debate over the lifting of the isolation had been turned to a debate over recognition`.

Pointing out that the Turkish Cypriot Side and the UN Chief have a similar approach towards the lifting of the isolation, he said that Mr Ban stressed the need for all international actors to take the view that the lifting of the isolation will contribute to the efforts aimed at reuniting the island into consideration without further delay.



So where is the UN or EU document that says anything about isolation of "trnc"? What you posted is not a document but some news article and it doesn't talk about "trnc" either.


Is that the only reason that you don't want to lift he embargoes...Because of wording :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: You and your silly games :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:32 pm

TCs can end their isolation by accepting legality. But there can not be any lifting of isolation against a "trnc", since that entity is illegal.
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Postby zan » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:35 pm

Piratis wrote:TCs can end their isolation by accepting legality. But there can not be any lifting of isolation against a "trnc", since that entity is illegal.


So is the "RoC" that was taken at the end of a gun........Bring back the CYPRUS REPUBLIC and give us our rights back as to the Zurich agreement and reclaim your legal status. :roll:
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:40 pm

The status of RoC is 100% legal. You are welcome to take back your official position at RoC whenever you decide to accept legality and stop pretending that you are not citizens of RoC but citizens of some "trnc".
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Postby zan » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:46 pm

Piratis wrote:The status of RoC is 100% legal. You are welcome to take back your official position at RoC whenever you decide to accept legality and stop pretending that you are not citizens of RoC but citizens of some "trnc".


That is bullshit and you know it...For us to return to he Zurich agreement, you would have to dissolve the "RoC" because it has no relevance to the Cyprus Republic........Your traps have got great big signs on them saying step this way and don't look down.......Nice try though......Do you really want to disolve the "RoC"..... :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:55 pm

Piratis wrote:The status of RoC is 100% legal. You are welcome to take back your official position at RoC whenever you decide to accept legality and stop pretending that you are not citizens of RoC but citizens of some "trnc".


The price we are more than willing to pay so as long as we are not a minority amongst GCs, without community rights.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:07 pm

zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:The status of RoC is 100% legal. You are welcome to take back your official position at RoC whenever you decide to accept legality and stop pretending that you are not citizens of RoC but citizens of some "trnc".


That is bullshit and you know it...For us to return to he Zurich agreement, you would have to dissolve the "RoC" because it has no relevance to the Cyprus Republic........Your traps have got great big signs on them saying step this way and don't look down.......Nice try though......Do you really want to disolve the "RoC"..... :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


RoC is 100% legal, you saying is not doesn't change a thing. You can stop the illegalities and come back to RoC whenever you want.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:The status of RoC is 100% legal. You are welcome to take back your official position at RoC whenever you decide to accept legality and stop pretending that you are not citizens of RoC but citizens of some "trnc".


The price we are more than willing to pay so as long as we are not a minority amongst GCs, without community rights.


You can have the community rights any other minority has. The Kurds in Turkey are a minority bigger than yours. What rights do you give them? What rights do you give to the Greek minority in Turkey?
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Postby zan » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:08 pm

Piratis wrote:
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Piratis wrote:The status of RoC is 100% legal. You are welcome to take back your official position at RoC whenever you decide to accept legality and stop pretending that you are not citizens of RoC but citizens of some "trnc".


The price we are more than willing to pay so as long as we are not a minority amongst GCs, without community rights.


You can have the community rights any other minority has. The Kurds in Turkey are a minority bigger than yours. What rights do you give them? What rights do you give to the Greek minority in Turkey?


We are not a minority...We are partners in Cyprus......We will not give up that right...
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