Kikapu
This is where you enter dangerous waters VP. I gave you an answer which was written long time ago, which was during a direct dialog with you back in March, and the fact that you do not remember may not be your fault, but you can still take a look and get the answer you are looking for. But part of this exercise of your refusal to seek the truth, fits perfectly with your whole personality, and the more you refuse to seek the truth the more you cement your image and character to me and others, that you are not willing to go out of your way to seek the truth, and I'm suppose to put my faith in the hands of people like yourselves to find peace in Cyprus....Hardly..!! Why should you lift a finger to normalize anything, because you are happy with what you have already, so thank you for demonstrating to us, how you, Zan and few others are stuck in one place and are not able to function outside that box. Now you know why I've not given you a simple "yes" or "no" answer to your question.
What you write on this forum may not be the truth we have take it on face value and do not have time to go back and check for simple yes or no answers, maybe the simple fact is you do not want to answer this question is down to your own lies as a confident and honest person would just respond whether or not they had posted previous information, we repeat things all the time...whats your problem?
Zan, me and many others can see you for what you are despot one sided individual who feels he has the right to dictate to others how they should live from thousands of miles away although they have no intention of ever returning to this island, like saying you jump into the fire while I watch from a distance..thanks but no thanks.
Once again, you are in Dangerous waters here. If my views are in line with the GC's, as you put it, then what does that tell you in the severity of the Human Violations committed by us towards the GC's, that even a TC's like myself is not willing to back you up. Just because you are comfortable in the present situation, does not mean I have to corrupt my values to satisfy yours.
Your views lie with the other side, you are one of them simple as that. You support GCs not TCs in their struggle we are big enough to accept this fact why are you so concerned about being grouped with your GC brothers?
I too do not see the TC's and GC's living in the same villages as before, at least not right away, is the reason why I believe in the True Federation solution with two states under ONE central Government, but not the "Micky Mouse Annan Plan" which was nothing more than cementing division for ever. Since you did not get that deal, now you want an agreed partition. If that's what you want, why hasn't Talat gone and made a deal with PapaD.?? I think the answer would be by PapaD, "what are you offering me Mr.Talat that doesn't already belong to us. You can't offer me something that does not belong to you" is my guess. As for trying to keep more than 18% of the North, will never be on the cards and anything less than 30% is hardly worth keeping the North by the TC's and the 2:1 ratio of the Turkish Settlers. Then again, it appears 70% True TC's do not agree with a 2 state agreed Partition. Then there's more bad news for you, if you actually believe that the world does not give a shit about Cyprus and solution. That will just mean you are stuck where you are and the RoC will continue to move forward in every way. So who are the losers VP. I can guarantee you, that the GC's will never give up their rights to the parts of the North that belongs to them. They are the legal owners of those properties, and no matter how long the division lasts, the day will come, where we the TC's will pay the price....emotionally and economically. If you are waiting for the world to say "ok 'TRNC', you are now a recognised country", then you have more optimism than me. I tend to live in the real world.
What Talat is offering is a way out of the currrent situation, just as the AP was a way forward, rejection has given you what???? Your suggestion of a 2 state solution under a federal structure would never be accepted by GCs, this does not serve their ultimate goal of controlling the whole island with us just as another minority with no community rights to influence negative developments against our community.
I agree I do want official partition as I can see clearly what you cant and living here on the island gives me that privilidge something you will never understand, that there is no unification solution that will satisfy both sides the chasm is to wide and getting wider by the day.
Are you and other GCs willing to put to the test this myth that you so desparately want to believe that TCs do not want a 2 state solution. Offer a vote of TCs if the result is a 2 state solution then you have to accept a 37% 63% split, put your despot beliefs to the test, lets see if you have the balls.
The current trend will in time work in favor of people like me who believe that the only solution we can agree is partition and luckily there are enough people like yourself who will just go around chasing their own tail with no end result, so keep up the good work. Another generation down and people will be asking what Cyprus problem??
I did not realise that there was a competition between myself and our good friend Bananiot. I value his posts very much. I also did not think, it was the rule to criticize both sides equally. What difference will it make if I criticize an illegal actions taken by the TC's in the North by pointing out another illegal actions taken by GC's in the South. Does the illegal actions in the North gets cancelled somehow because of what happens in the South? Well, the answer is a big NO. What you want from me is to make justifications of the wrongs done in the North just to satisfy those who are doing the wrongs. If you see me supporting any wrongs done by the South, then you will have the right to accuse me of siding with the GC's and against the TC's, otherwise you are just venting your frustrations of a TC pointing out the Human Violations done by his side. I use to make many posts in the past picking on the GC's, but of course, all those are now forgotten, since I concentrate on what my own people are doing. Perhaps it is best to "clean" one's house first before attempting to "clean" others. That's why we have Bananiot for that.
Its one thing to criticize one side more than the other but not to criticize one side at all reveals a lot about you as individual and the utterly ficticious claim that you are a TC.
Prove yourself to the forum, please provide us in detail with your thoughts about the violations of GCs against TCs. Im sure you will yet again use your verbal dihhorea tactic to avoid answer the question.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the fact you live in Cyprus and I do not, does not give you anymore ownership or rights than me. I'm a Cypriot and that's all you need to know. Where I chose to live is of no concern to you or anyone else in what I say regarding Cyprus. For someone as yourself who supports Turkey in every possible way without any criticism at all of her actions, then you should also accept in what I say about my own country.
Surely the man who lives here has more insight and right to what goes on in his country be it the TRNC or the "RoC" than someone who has lived the majority of his life in foreign lands, people are not stupid and can see right through your claim to know whats best for us, the ones who will be effected by any changes.
