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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:57 pm

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BC Numismatics wrote:Zan,I am guessing that the 1963 coin is one of 3 denominations - 25,50,or 100 Mils (all of which I have).The 1901 9 Piastres (which I do have) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 600,000 coins.The 1938 1 Piastre (another coin I do have) is a common coin with a mintage of 2,700,000 coins.The 1926 1/4 Piastre (a coin that I haven't yet got) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 360,000 coins.The 1901 18 Piastres is another scarce coin with a mintage of 200,000 coins.You'd better hang onto those coins.

Zan,my boss recently bought in an example of the 1901 18 Piastres,which is only the second one I've seen.I am in the process of negotiating with him a price to land it into my collection.The coins of colonial Cyprus & the Republic of Cyprus are ones I do collect,being British Commonwealth issues.I can't wait for the Euro to come out,as I will be collecting the Euro coins from both Cyprus & Malta,in addition to the ones from Ireland.

The New Zealand 6d. is extremely common,as we were using them as 5c. coins right up until late 2006.

Aidan.



Thank you once again for the very interesting info. I will hold on to them and save them for my sons as my father wants......



Zan , I have just seen the lovelyphoto of this coin. I am trying to read the beautiful calligraphy. If you took the pic yourself could you please alter the light on it. Aidan has got the date. I have read the first two lines which read " Al Sultan Mehmet Khan". If the second pic is the reverse, it may not be Ottoman but Mameluke(Egyptian) pre 1516. I dont know if Aidan can verify this.
Changing the light angle will enable me to read the rest.
The name 'Mehmet' is the Turkish for 'Mohammed' a common name among Islamic rulers. But as you know the rulers in Egypt (mamelukes/Memluk were Turkish and that is why I think it may be Memluke. I am enjoying this. Thanks to Aidan as well. Please confirm the absence of the Tughra on the reverse.

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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:04 am

denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Zan,I am guessing that the 1963 coin is one of 3 denominations - 25,50,or 100 Mils (all of which I have).The 1901 9 Piastres (which I do have) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 600,000 coins.The 1938 1 Piastre (another coin I do have) is a common coin with a mintage of 2,700,000 coins.The 1926 1/4 Piastre (a coin that I haven't yet got) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 360,000 coins.The 1901 18 Piastres is another scarce coin with a mintage of 200,000 coins.You'd better hang onto those coins.

Zan,my boss recently bought in an example of the 1901 18 Piastres,which is only the second one I've seen.I am in the process of negotiating with him a price to land it into my collection.The coins of colonial Cyprus & the Republic of Cyprus are ones I do collect,being British Commonwealth issues.I can't wait for the Euro to come out,as I will be collecting the Euro coins from both Cyprus & Malta,in addition to the ones from Ireland.

The New Zealand 6d. is extremely common,as we were using them as 5c. coins right up until late 2006.

Aidan.



Thank you once again for the very interesting info. I will hold on to them and save them for my sons as my father wants......



Zan , I have just seen the lovelyphoto of this coin. I am trying to read the beautiful calligraphy. If you took the pic yourself could you please alter the light on it. Aidan has got the date. I have read the first two lines which read " Al Sultan Mehmet Khan". If the second pic is the reverse, it may not be Ottoman but Mameluke(Egyptian) pre 1516. I dont know if Aidan can verify this.
Changing the light angle will enable me to read the rest.
The name 'Mehmet' is the Turkish for 'Mohammed' a common name among Islamic rulers. But as you know the rulers in Egypt (mamelukes/Memluk were Turkish and that is why I think it may be Memluke. I am enjoying this. Thanks to Aidan as well. Please confirm the absence of the Tughra on the reverse.

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Just checked out the date using the converter provided by Aidan and it comes up as 1703 AD. So definitely not Memluke.

I will try and read the rest for complete ID. :roll: :oops: :oops:

It is still fun :lol:
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Postby DINOS SKALIOTIS » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:08 am

denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Zan,I am guessing that the 1963 coin is one of 3 denominations - 25,50,or 100 Mils (all of which I have).The 1901 9 Piastres (which I do have) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 600,000 coins.The 1938 1 Piastre (another coin I do have) is a common coin with a mintage of 2,700,000 coins.The 1926 1/4 Piastre (a coin that I haven't yet got) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 360,000 coins.The 1901 18 Piastres is another scarce coin with a mintage of 200,000 coins.You'd better hang onto those coins.

Zan,my boss recently bought in an example of the 1901 18 Piastres,which is only the second one I've seen.I am in the process of negotiating with him a price to land it into my collection.The coins of colonial Cyprus & the Republic of Cyprus are ones I do collect,being British Commonwealth issues.I can't wait for the Euro to come out,as I will be collecting the Euro coins from both Cyprus & Malta,in addition to the ones from Ireland.

The New Zealand 6d. is extremely common,as we were using them as 5c. coins right up until late 2006.

Aidan.



Thank you once again for the very interesting info. I will hold on to them and save them for my sons as my father wants......



Zan , I have just seen the lovelyphoto of this coin. I am trying to read the beautiful calligraphy. If you took the pic yourself could you please alter the light on it. Aidan has got the date. I have read the first two lines which read " Al Sultan Mehmet Khan". If the second pic is the reverse, it may not be Ottoman but Mameluke(Egyptian) pre 1516. I dont know if Aidan can verify this.
Changing the light angle will enable me to read the rest.
The name 'Mehmet' is the Turkish for 'Mohammed' a common name among Islamic rulers. But as you know the rulers in Egypt (mamelukes/Memluk were Turkish and that is why I think it may be Memluke. I am enjoying this. Thanks to Aidan as well. Please confirm the absence of the Tughra on the reverse.

Regards


i thought that name was only for teddybears :wink:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:18 am

DINOS SKALIOTIS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Zan,I am guessing that the 1963 coin is one of 3 denominations - 25,50,or 100 Mils (all of which I have).The 1901 9 Piastres (which I do have) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 600,000 coins.The 1938 1 Piastre (another coin I do have) is a common coin with a mintage of 2,700,000 coins.The 1926 1/4 Piastre (a coin that I haven't yet got) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 360,000 coins.The 1901 18 Piastres is another scarce coin with a mintage of 200,000 coins.You'd better hang onto those coins.

Zan,my boss recently bought in an example of the 1901 18 Piastres,which is only the second one I've seen.I am in the process of negotiating with him a price to land it into my collection.The coins of colonial Cyprus & the Republic of Cyprus are ones I do collect,being British Commonwealth issues.I can't wait for the Euro to come out,as I will be collecting the Euro coins from both Cyprus & Malta,in addition to the ones from Ireland.

The New Zealand 6d. is extremely common,as we were using them as 5c. coins right up until late 2006.

Aidan.



Thank you once again for the very interesting info. I will hold on to them and save them for my sons as my father wants......



Zan , I have just seen the lovelyphoto of this coin. I am trying to read the beautiful calligraphy. If you took the pic yourself could you please alter the light on it. Aidan has got the date. I have read the first two lines which read " Al Sultan Mehmet Khan". If the second pic is the reverse, it may not be Ottoman but Mameluke(Egyptian) pre 1516. I dont know if Aidan can verify this.
Changing the light angle will enable me to read the rest.
The name 'Mehmet' is the Turkish for 'Mohammed' a common name among Islamic rulers. But as you know the rulers in Egypt (mamelukes/Memluk were Turkish and that is why I think it may be Memluke. I am enjoying this. Thanks to Aidan as well. Please confirm the absence of the Tughra on the reverse.

Regards


i thought that name was only for teddybears :wink:


Now now :lol: :lol:

The style of the calligraphy on the back suggests a North African/Moorish coin, but am hoping Zan to respond to my request. I get the titles and name but no domain yet. I am surprised you cant help more.

Regards :lol: :lol:
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Postby DINOS SKALIOTIS » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:24 am

denizaksulu wrote:
DINOS SKALIOTIS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Zan,I am guessing that the 1963 coin is one of 3 denominations - 25,50,or 100 Mils (all of which I have).The 1901 9 Piastres (which I do have) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 600,000 coins.The 1938 1 Piastre (another coin I do have) is a common coin with a mintage of 2,700,000 coins.The 1926 1/4 Piastre (a coin that I haven't yet got) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 360,000 coins.The 1901 18 Piastres is another scarce coin with a mintage of 200,000 coins.You'd better hang onto those coins.

Zan,my boss recently bought in an example of the 1901 18 Piastres,which is only the second one I've seen.I am in the process of negotiating with him a price to land it into my collection.The coins of colonial Cyprus & the Republic of Cyprus are ones I do collect,being British Commonwealth issues.I can't wait for the Euro to come out,as I will be collecting the Euro coins from both Cyprus & Malta,in addition to the ones from Ireland.

The New Zealand 6d. is extremely common,as we were using them as 5c. coins right up until late 2006.

Aidan.



Thank you once again for the very interesting info. I will hold on to them and save them for my sons as my father wants......



Zan , I have just seen the lovelyphoto of this coin. I am trying to read the beautiful calligraphy. If you took the pic yourself could you please alter the light on it. Aidan has got the date. I have read the first two lines which read " Al Sultan Mehmet Khan". If the second pic is the reverse, it may not be Ottoman but Mameluke(Egyptian) pre 1516. I dont know if Aidan can verify this.
Changing the light angle will enable me to read the rest.
The name 'Mehmet' is the Turkish for 'Mohammed' a common name among Islamic rulers. But as you know the rulers in Egypt (mamelukes/Memluk were Turkish and that is why I think it may be Memluke. I am enjoying this. Thanks to Aidan as well. Please confirm the absence of the Tughra on the reverse.

Regards


i thought that name was only for teddybears :wink:


Now now :lol: :lol:

The style of the calligraphy on the back suggests a North African/Moorish coin, but am hoping Zan to respond to my request. I get the titles and name but no domain yet. I am surprised you cant help more.

Regards :lol: :lol:


i dont understand all that paki writing :wink: when you say they are moorish do you mean that when you eat 1 you want more? :wink:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:32 am

DINOS SKALIOTIS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DINOS SKALIOTIS wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Zan,I am guessing that the 1963 coin is one of 3 denominations - 25,50,or 100 Mils (all of which I have).The 1901 9 Piastres (which I do have) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 600,000 coins.The 1938 1 Piastre (another coin I do have) is a common coin with a mintage of 2,700,000 coins.The 1926 1/4 Piastre (a coin that I haven't yet got) is a scarce coin with a mintage of 360,000 coins.The 1901 18 Piastres is another scarce coin with a mintage of 200,000 coins.You'd better hang onto those coins.

Zan,my boss recently bought in an example of the 1901 18 Piastres,which is only the second one I've seen.I am in the process of negotiating with him a price to land it into my collection.The coins of colonial Cyprus & the Republic of Cyprus are ones I do collect,being British Commonwealth issues.I can't wait for the Euro to come out,as I will be collecting the Euro coins from both Cyprus & Malta,in addition to the ones from Ireland.

The New Zealand 6d. is extremely common,as we were using them as 5c. coins right up until late 2006.

Aidan.



Thank you once again for the very interesting info. I will hold on to them and save them for my sons as my father wants......



Zan , I have just seen the lovelyphoto of this coin. I am trying to read the beautiful calligraphy. If you took the pic yourself could you please alter the light on it. Aidan has got the date. I have read the first two lines which read " Al Sultan Mehmet Khan". If the second pic is the reverse, it may not be Ottoman but Mameluke(Egyptian) pre 1516. I dont know if Aidan can verify this.
Changing the light angle will enable me to read the rest.
The name 'Mehmet' is the Turkish for 'Mohammed' a common name among Islamic rulers. But as you know the rulers in Egypt (mamelukes/Memluk were Turkish and that is why I think it may be Memluke. I am enjoying this. Thanks to Aidan as well. Please confirm the absence of the Tughra on the reverse.

Regards


i thought that name was only for teddybears :wink:


Now now :lol: :lol:

The style of the calligraphy on the back suggests a North African/Moorish coin, but am hoping Zan to respond to my request. I get the titles and name but no domain yet. I am surprised you cant help more.

Regards :lol: :lol:


i dont understand all that paki writing :wink: when you say they are moorish do you mean that when you eat 1 you want more? :wink:



Zan, did you do that by deed poll? :lol: :lol:
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:59 am

The coin is Ottoman and dates from the period of Ahmed III, who reign (1703-1730) is considered to mark one of the cultural highpoints of the Ottoman Empire. As was usual for Ottoman coins, the inscription is in Arabic and reads as follows (the punctuation has been added for the sake of clarity):

Es-Sultân
Ahmed bin Mehmed Hân,
dâme Mülkehu. Duribe fî
Kostantiniye.
1115

The translation is as follows:

The Sultan Ahmed son of Mehmed Khan, long may his reign continue! Struck in Constantinople in 1115 (= AD 1702-1703).

This is a desirable coin Zan.

Happy Bayram to you and your family.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:10 am

MR-from-NG wrote:The coin is Ottoman and dates from the period of Ahmed III, who reign (1703-1730) is considered to mark one of the cultural highpoints of the Ottoman Empire. As was usual for Ottoman coins, the inscription is in Arabic and reads as follows (the punctuation has been added for the sake of clarity):

Es-Sultân
Ahmed bin Mehmed Hân,
dâme Mülkehu. Duribe fî
Kostantiniye.
1115

The translation is as follows:

The Sultan Ahmed son of Mehmed Khan, long may his reign continue! Struck in Constantinople in 1115 (= AD 1702-1703).

This is a desirable coin Zan.

Happy Bayram to you and your family.



Job well done. I was waiting for Zan to finish his partying. You saved me the exercise. Zan will be delighted. :lol:
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Postby zan » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:20 am

Guys :D :D :D :D I was just trying to scan the coin in a higher resolution and MR-from-NG saved me the trouble. Thank you kardesim. I will print off your translation and keep it with the coin. Thanks to you too Deniz and you are right I was partying at the Panto in Southend and we had Fish and chips before with a couple of glasses of wine, although I could not drink because it is my wife's birthday and she did the drinking instead..The Panto was good though...Gets you in the mood for Christmas and the new year.



On that note I wish you and your families both a safe and enjoyable Kutlu Bayram. MR-from NG....We might be meeting up at the end of next week and I will let you know if it comes about......You are invited too Deniz..I owe you both a drink.

Keep safe my friends.....
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:20 am

denizaksulu wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:The coin is Ottoman and dates from the period of Ahmed III, who reign (1703-1730) is considered to mark one of the cultural highpoints of the Ottoman Empire. As was usual for Ottoman coins, the inscription is in Arabic and reads as follows (the punctuation has been added for the sake of clarity):

Es-Sultân
Ahmed bin Mehmed Hân,
dâme Mülkehu. Duribe fî
Kostantiniye.
1115

The translation is as follows:

The Sultan Ahmed son of Mehmed Khan, long may his reign continue! Struck in Constantinople in 1115 (= AD 1702-1703).

This is a desirable coin Zan.

Happy Bayram to you and your family.



Job well done. I was waiting for Zan to finish his partying. You saved me the exercise. Zan will be delighted. :lol:
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Thank you Deniz but the credit goes to my son. He is spending new year with us and I got him to help. He is studying at Harvard and this is a subject very close to his heart.
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