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[phoenix]

Turkish Cypriots have NOT become a minority in their own country.

The TCs have ALWAYS been a minority in Cyprus.

What they did was steal half of Cyprus from the Cypriots, apportion themselves the riches left by the ethnically cleansed and briefly enjoyed their moment in the sun. BUT IT WAS NEVER THEIR OWN COUNTRY!

It is an illegally occupied section of Cyprus . . . NOT A COUNTRY!


All that is happening now, is the continued Turkification of part of the EU, first by 40,000 Turkish troops, now their settlers.

Did the TCs really think they could steal part of our country and enjoy it just for themselves forever?

Well Turkey has other plans, and the TCs have only themselves to blame for the predicament they have put us ALL in.

It it my imagination, or do you have a problem with Turks in general? Given your posts in the thread on Racism in Cyprus, it seems like there is an inconsistancy between what you wrote there, and what you're saying here...

How can I expect a dimwit like you to understand anything?

Participate with relevances please, not just by trying to label people.

What particular point is causing you to recoil to your flawed assumptions? I have already established what I feel for Turks is not something as simple and universally held as racism. They are the enemy of my country and my relatives . . . you who has never had them carry out their barbaric acts on you personally or your loved ones will never understand what that feeling is. But racism it is not . . . if only it were.

[T_C]

Don't worry Phoenix at least the TCs understand where you're coming from...we feel the same about a certain group if people...

[T_C]

I would MUCH MUCH rather have a gazzilion more Turks in Cyprus than "unite" with people like phoenix thats for sure....and I'm serious!

If it's out of the two then living with millions of Turks is much better than living with a million Phoenix's, plus shes right we've always been a minority so it doesn't make a difference weather it's a Turkish majority or Greek and out the 2 I choose the Turks...

And am sure phoenix is the voice of all Greek speaking Cypriots right T_C?????

I'm sure she isn't Humanist and I'm sorry if I offended you, but still, there are a lot GCs that just couldn't care less about what we think and I find them dangerous...I would not agree with someone who tries to tell me "everything will be ok" when it blatantly wouldn't when theres people like phoenix around. They may be a minority but theres enough of them to make me feel unwelcome in my country in the even that GCs get everything they want.

[T_C]

What am I talking about?!! If GCs got a unitary state I wouldn't even be an RoC citizen, the GC taunts would be the least of my worries!!

[phoenix]

Don't worry Phoenix at least the TCs understand where you're coming from...we feel the same about a certain group if people...

What I feel like doing to you and what I am likely to do . . . . are two different things

However, neither decency, nor humanity . . . . nothing, seems to stop Turks carrying out whatever they want so that they get what they want.

So Historically (past and present) proves beyond a reasonable doubt, we have every reason to fear you . . . and not the other way around.

Please don't overreact.

[Viewpoint]

Turkish Cypriots have become a minority in their own country

This is quite an interesting point that raises many questions. I have gotten the sense from Turkish speaking Cypriots (most) on this forum that this is not aproblem for them.

Many have stated they would rather loose their sense of culture and identityt to be clustered among Turkishness as opposed to living in a united Cyprus as Cypriots who have a uniques culturall identity, language and heritage.

Do Greek speaking Cypriots have the right to be concerned that part of the Cypriot cultural identity and heritage is under threat of being Turkified. Do Greek speakers have the right to debate this topic or is it simply a propaganda and a scare tactic to push Turkish speaking Cypriots yet into another corner?

Is it that Turkish speaking Cypriots are exactly where they want to be?

Or is it perhaps time for Turkish speaking Cypriots to consider this direction very seriously and begin dialogue for a united cyprus that will preserve their cultural identity or has the talat administration decided that enosis with Turkey is their pathway and there is no room for unification?

As TC quite rightly stated if faced with a choice of a united Cyprus with the mentality like of people like Phoenix who deos represent the majorit of GCs we would pick Turkey everytime. Phoenix embodies everything we believe Gcs are like under the surface and what will create us to be relegated to second class citizens in our own country. The Turks represent our origins which we are proud of so an alternative woudl have to be darn good and with the GCs that is very very unlikely.

VP shut up trying to turn the GCs against me, we are all individuals with our own points of view unlike you . . . robot!

. . . you have completely ignored the topic . . . which is about what Turkey is doing to you right now . . . never mind what might have been with GCs.

I dont have to do anything Phoenix you do a great job on your own, you and people like you are the reason why we will never unite.

I and others expressed our views about the topic, if you did not have the intelligence to pick up on the main points that is not my problem, but to recap and put it plain words Turkey is preferred to the GCs.

[Viewpoint]

Don't worry Phoenix at least the TCs understand where you're coming from...we feel the same about a certain group if people...

What I feel like doing to you and what I am likely to do . . . . are two different things

However, neither decency, nor humanity . . . . nothing, seems to stop Turks carrying out whatever they want so that they get what they want.

So Historically (past and present) proves beyond a reasonable doubt, we have every reason to fear you . . . and not the other way around.

Please don't overreact.

You are a mentally disturbed individual (by the events of 1974) and therefore dangerous to the TC community, like Turkey is your enemy you are ours and we will treat you the same way you treat us.

[shahmaran]

Well thats why we got the TRNC, so we dont have to hope to be "accepted" by people like Phoenix, this is our island and our home and who ever doesnt like it then just has to deal with it in their own time and side of the island

[phoenix]

Well thats why we got the TRNC, so we dont have to hope to be "accepted" by people like Phoenix, this is our island and our home and who ever doesnt like it then just has to deal with it in their own time and side of the island

A normal person would want to know what led up to a particular situation.

Up until 1974, (as I have already related to VP) even my best friend was TC . . . you were treated in exactly the same way as GCs.

The events of 1974 and subsequent events to date, have led me to realise you are different . . . because you prefer Turkey, you have always wanted Turkey to be your government . . everything you did led up to the fait accompli.

Nothing you say now will convince me as to what is supposedly changing your minds. Your minds were made up long ago.

The Turk- TCs were ALWAYS pro-Turkey, so stop making excuses as though it's a recent phenomenon. Your actions since 1963, and especially 1974 confirmed that you are different because of what you have done and continue to do to Cyprus.

You don't give a monkey's what I or any GC thinks. You are looking for excuses to validate your Turkishness.

[shahmaran]

Yes, you can support your racist attitude with such sweeping ideas if you like, what ever makes you happy, its fine with me, like i said, your opinion is absolutely worthless to us, i was born after 74 but according to you i belong to Turkey and "live for" Turkey whatever, its not like we really have much of a choice, on one hand we have people like you who conveniently decides that "we believe we are better off with Turkey anyways", and on the other hand we got Turkey.

Admit it Phoenix, its just more fuel for your racist views, if you are a bastard to us we will choose Turkey, so you can then turn around and say "oh look they were always for Turkey anyways they are not Cypriot" never mind what has happened in the past and how the TCs got treated in their own country which has not ended with most of them moving to the South of the island, but actually LEFT the place for good, but yes you are right we were always for Turkey.