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Turkish Cypriots have become a minority in their own country

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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:47 pm

Why are you guys so suprised? Phoenix has the courage to say how the majority of GCs view us TCs, foreigners in our own country, who canonly stay if the GCs say so. Wise up TCs we have our own country recognized or not it much better than uniting with a Phoenix mentality therefore redereing to yourselves to GC whims.
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:49 pm

Oh man i read this about the Lokum, i didnt want to believe it, what an absolute disgrace, how do you guys sleep at night!!! :lol:

And then they call us the thieves! :roll:
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Postby zan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:51 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Why are you guys so suprised? Phoenix has the courage to say how the majority of GCs view us TCs, foreigners in our own country, who canonly stay if the GCs say so. Wise up TCs we have our own country recognized or not it much better than uniting with a Phoenix mentality therefore redereing to yourselves to GC whims.


Not surprise VP but when Phoenix gives us a chance to reinstate the realities of Cyprus then it would be rude not take that opportunity..... :wink: Long live the TRNC mate.
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Postby humanist » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:20 pm

I would MUCH MUCH rather have a gazzilion more Turks in Cyprus than "unite" with people like phoenix thats for sure....and I'm serious!

If it's out of the two then living with millions of Turks is much better than living with a million Phoenix's, plus shes right we've always been a minority so it doesn't make a difference weather it's a Turkish majority or Greek and out the 2 I choose the Turks...


And am sure phoenix is the voice of all Greek speaking Cypriots right T_C????? :roll:
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Postby humanist » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:30 pm

Turkish Cypriots have become a minority in their own country


This is quite an interesting point that raises many questions. I have gotten the sense from Turkish speaking Cypriots (most) on this forum that this is not aproblem for them.

Many have stated they would rather loose their sense of culture and identityt to be clustered among Turkishness as opposed to living in a united Cyprus as Cypriots who have a uniques culturall identity, language and heritage.

Do Greek speaking Cypriots have the right to be concerned that part of the Cypriot cultural identity and heritage is under threat of being Turkified. Do Greek speakers have the right to debate this topic or is it simply a propaganda and a scare tactic to push Turkish speaking Cypriots yet into another corner?

Is it that Turkish speaking Cypriots are exactly where they want to be?

Or is it perhaps time for Turkish speaking Cypriots to consider this direction very seriously and begin dialogue for a united cyprus that will preserve their cultural identity or has the talat administration decided that enosis with Turkey is their pathway and there is no room for unification?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:41 pm

humanist wrote:
I would MUCH MUCH rather have a gazzilion more Turks in Cyprus than "unite" with people like phoenix thats for sure....and I'm serious!

If it's out of the two then living with millions of Turks is much better than living with a million Phoenix's, plus shes right we've always been a minority so it doesn't make a difference weather it's a Turkish majority or Greek and out the 2 I choose the Turks...


And am sure phoenix is the voice of all Greek speaking Cypriots right T_C????? :roll:


Thats what I have claimed all along and are warranted in our mistrust of those that promote the we are all Cypriots facade concealing the GC desire to run the whole country as a Greek island.
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Postby zan » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:42 pm

humanist wrote:
Turkish Cypriots have become a minority in their own country


This is quite an interesting point that raises many questions. I have gotten the sense from Turkish speaking Cypriots (most) on this forum that this is not aproblem for them.

Many have stated they would rather loose their sense of culture and identityt to be clustered among Turkishness as opposed to living in a united Cyprus as Cypriots who have a uniques culturall identity, language and heritage.

Do Greek speaking Cypriots have the right to be concerned that part of the Cypriot cultural identity and heritage is under threat of being Turkified. Do Greek speakers have the right to debate this topic or is it simply a propaganda and a scare tactic to push Turkish speaking Cypriots yet into another corner?

Is it that Turkish speaking Cypriots are exactly where they want to be?

Or is it perhaps time for Turkish speaking Cypriots to consider this direction very seriously and begin dialogue for a united cyprus that will preserve their cultural identity or has the talat administration decided that enosis with Turkey is their pathway and there is no room for unification?


You just can't help yourself can you Humanist...One minute you say that the "RoC does nothing to make us part of it and then you blame Talat for not talking to Tpap.....Can you not see that you are contradicting yourself... :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:45 pm

humanist wrote:
Turkish Cypriots have become a minority in their own country


This is quite an interesting point that raises many questions. I have gotten the sense from Turkish speaking Cypriots (most) on this forum that this is not aproblem for them.

Many have stated they would rather loose their sense of culture and identityt to be clustered among Turkishness as opposed to living in a united Cyprus as Cypriots who have a uniques culturall identity, language and heritage.

Do Greek speaking Cypriots have the right to be concerned that part of the Cypriot cultural identity and heritage is under threat of being Turkified. Do Greek speakers have the right to debate this topic or is it simply a propaganda and a scare tactic to push Turkish speaking Cypriots yet into another corner?

Is it that Turkish speaking Cypriots are exactly where they want to be?

Or is it perhaps time for Turkish speaking Cypriots to consider this direction very seriously and begin dialogue for a united cyprus that will preserve their cultural identity or has the talat administration decided that enosis with Turkey is their pathway and there is no room for unification?


As TC quite rightly stated if faced with a choice of a united Cyprus with the mentality like of people like Phoenix who deos represent the majorit of GCs we would pick Turkey everytime. Phoenix embodies everything we believe Gcs are like under the surface and what will create us to be relegated to second class citizens in our own country. The Turks represent our origins which we are proud of so an alternative woudl have to be darn good and with the GCs that is very very unlikely.
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Postby humanist » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:37 am

okay,
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Postby phoenix » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:44 am

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:
Turkish Cypriots have become a minority in their own country


This is quite an interesting point that raises many questions. I have gotten the sense from Turkish speaking Cypriots (most) on this forum that this is not aproblem for them.

Many have stated they would rather loose their sense of culture and identityt to be clustered among Turkishness as opposed to living in a united Cyprus as Cypriots who have a uniques culturall identity, language and heritage.

Do Greek speaking Cypriots have the right to be concerned that part of the Cypriot cultural identity and heritage is under threat of being Turkified. Do Greek speakers have the right to debate this topic or is it simply a propaganda and a scare tactic to push Turkish speaking Cypriots yet into another corner?

Is it that Turkish speaking Cypriots are exactly where they want to be?

Or is it perhaps time for Turkish speaking Cypriots to consider this direction very seriously and begin dialogue for a united cyprus that will preserve their cultural identity or has the talat administration decided that enosis with Turkey is their pathway and there is no room for unification?


As TC quite rightly stated if faced with a choice of a united Cyprus with the mentality like of people like Phoenix who deos represent the majorit of GCs we would pick Turkey everytime. Phoenix embodies everything we believe Gcs are like under the surface and what will create us to be relegated to second class citizens in our own country. The Turks represent our origins which we are proud of so an alternative woudl have to be darn good and with the GCs that is very very unlikely.


VP shut up trying to turn the GCs against me, we are all individuals with our own points of view unlike you . . . robot! :roll:

. . . you have completely ignored the topic . . . which is about what Turkey is doing to you right now . . . never mind what might have been with GCs.
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