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[Sophia1]

Oh yeah and who likes watching GAY porn? you even copied us all in on your fav pic! Why don't you go suck cock!!

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

Is that how you and your friends interpreted, you are a poor excuse of a blowjob? ...hmmmm...you did say you passed your whatever "o" levels didn't you?

try again and get back to me...this time with no fishies swimming in your mouth

her mum took 1 look at her when she was born and said to her dad

"i should have given you a blow job instead"

[cymart]

You will need a very thick skin to be able to take the insults you will receive from some people on this site!They blame everyone but themselves for what mess they have created here.....(they are officially the biggest producers of domestic rubbish in the E.U. by the way!)
How about if all the British tour operators decided to stop Cyprus and all the residents packed-up and left?Then they would accuse them of betraying the Greek Cypriots of course!You cannot win......maybe the best friend you could make here is the cypriot donkey after all but there are not many of those left nowadays either!
Fear breeds insecurity which breeds hatred....... and there has been plenty of that here in the past and maybe even now.....
The best thing is to just feel sorry for those who are so ignorant and pray they will be enlightened.

[cymart]

You seriously need help my friend-why not try talking to someone like Yiangos Mikellides for example,before you get into real trouble off-line!
I pity you-and other people whose lives you no doubt make a misery!

[Kikapu]

The question to the proud Turkish speaking Cypriot remains what are your views on soon becoming a minority in your own country?

These people are our origins, which is Turkish...our Cypriot brothers tried to stab us in the back, all Turkey has done for us is put food on our plates, she not only protects us but supports us financially, you do not bite the hand that feeds you humanist. People who choose to live in the TRNC and become citizens are my people regardless of their ethnic origins, as long as they abide by our laws and respect each other we have no problems.

Can you see or understand the difference? The Turks have supported us in every way possible whereas GCs have only tired to sell us out to Greece isolate, discriminate and persecute us for being TCs.

VP, I have a proposal to make to you, which I am sure every other GC and our leadership will accept without any problems or objections.

The proposal is the following:

1.] We agree that the Turkish troops withdraw to the 18.4% of Cyprus and the maximum 25% of the coastlines, and the remaining 17.6% of the now occupied areas will pass to the control of the UN, with a resolution guaranteed under chapter 7 of the UN Charter.

2.] There will be no forceful movement or expulsion of TC population from these areas, nor there will be any GC re-settlement into these areas, out of which the Turkish troops will withdraw.

3.] We will negotiate for a fixed term of one year, so that we examine the prospects of reaching a re-unification solution on the basis of a BBF.

4.] We agree that after the end of this one year time-table (I know you like this word) for negotiations, if there is still no agreement between the two communities for re-unification, we will close the re-unification chapter, call the quits and both sides accept recognized partition, simultaneously with the return by the UN to the RoC of the areas which will be in its control since 1 year earlier.

5.] Those TCs residing in the areas that will be returned by the UN to the RoC, will have an option to either stay as RoC citizens that they are, under a revised constitution on the basis of one man one vote -i.e. without separate TC communal rights; or they will have the right to move into the 18.4% of the areas which will form the recognized independed TC state ("TRNC.")

6.] The international community will provide funding for the re-settlement of these people, as well as for any compensation to GCs that will permanently lose their properties situated inside the recognized "TRNC!"

7.] The RoC will agree not to have any saying or objections to your membership as a separate country into any international organization or into the EU.


How do you find such an agreement, would you and the leadership of your community agree to it, and if not, please explain why?

Any other TC is free to express their opinion of the above, within the framework of the above questions placed for VP to answer.

Kifeas I applaud your vision and agree with the timetable put forward which with our past history of negotiation skills is vital to reaching an outcome.

Where I do have a problem is the 18% which as you know is disputed by the TCs, why not have an independent board of experts examine all claims and decide how correct this figure exactly is, if found in your favor then we would have to abide, if not then you would have to accept the outcome. Why not also allow for GCs who wish to live in the TRNC that right? this would also increase the size of the north.

VP,

I found this statement below by you very interesting. Were you really serious when you made that comment or just having fun.

Why not also allow for GCs who wish to live in the TRNC that right? this would also increase the size of the north

Why would any GC's would want to come and live under a "foreign" laws in their own country by moving to the "TRNC", so that greater area would fall under it's jurisdiction. It would be much easier and cheaper for the "TRNC" to keep as little land as possible and allow the GC's to return back to their villages, so that they can be under the laws that they have been used to.

Those that do move to the "TRNC", what guarantee would they receive, that they will be able to pass on their property to their families and will not be forced to sell it to TC's only. Since the AP had similar guidelines, so what's to stop you from doing the same if all the refugees came to live under your rules. Within a generation, all the GC land will fall into the hands of the "TRNC".

Just for my interest, since you don't mind having the 18% land and 25% coastline for the "TRNC", just exactly from where to where would you draw the "Partition Line". If you know, please share with us.

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu

I found this statement below by you very interesting. Were you really serious when you made that comment or just having fun.

Serious as that was why 29% was always a ball park figure and always agreed by both sides.

Why would any GC's would want to come and live under a "foreign" laws in their own country by moving to the "TRNC", so that greater area would fall under it's jurisdiction. It would be much easier and cheaper for the "TRNC" to keep as little land as possible and allow the GC's to return back to their villages, so that they can be under the laws that they have been used to.

Stop there and reverse what you say to a TC perspective, we to do not want to move to a GC state, thats the problem but with a land return and an option to move and live in the TRNC we will allow people the freedom to do what they wish.

Those that do move to the "TRNC", what guarantee would they receive, that they will be able to pass on their property to their families and will not be forced to sell it to TC's only. Since the AP had similar guidelines, so what's to stop you from doing the same if all the refugees came to live under your rules. Within a generation, all the GC land will fall into the hands of the "TRNC".

I am suprised you ask this question as land in the TRNC can be sold to anyone remember the Brits and Israelis, but I understand the concern which was also the case for TCs back in the 1960s and why we still dispute the 18% banded around today, but they should be allowed to sell to whom ever they wish like everyone else.

Just for my interest, since you don't mind having the 18% land and 25% coastline for the "TRNC", just exactly from where to where would you draw the "Partition Line". If you know, please share with us.

Im not that computer advanced to draw lines but we would probably lose most of the west of the TRNC and of course Maraş.

[Kifeas]

Serious as that was why 29% was always a ball park figure and always agreed by both sides.

???

What does that mean?

[Viewpoint]

Serious as that was why 29% was always a ball park figure and always agreed by both sides.

???

What does that mean?

Im serious about allowing those GCs back that wish to live under TC administration, this woudl increase the land distribution figure to a figure that has always been put forward and agreed 29%.

[Kifeas]

Serious as that was why 29% was always a ball park figure and always agreed by both sides.

???

What does that mean?

Im serious about allowing those GCs back that wish to live under TC administration, this woudl increase the land distribution figure to a figure that has always been put forward and agreed 29%.

What has always been put forward and agreed?

[repulsewarrior]

you can cut Cyprus up into many parts, i think that is better. you can create two National Assemblies which are mutually exclusive with a Jurisdiction over the two Zones, but there is no security, and no sustainability for this island's dwellers until they unite as peoples to represent their belief in Humanity, as a State that respects Individual Rights and that defends them inclusively, without any ethnic bias. This is Bizonal, and, Bicommunal.