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Turkish Cypriots have become a minority in their own country

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:32 pm

RebelWithoutAPause wrote:
Don't give up TC, you are a representative of the TC youth, you must be heard. You can learn from the GC posts why there will never be a solution where we live mixed together. The best solution is agreed partition for return of land as we are not allowed any alternative choices by GCs who still think 1963 to 1974 was a heaven on earth for TCs. The we are all Cypriots policy many GCs have suddenly adopted is just a facade for the real intentions of forcing their domination and taking away our community rights


...and then you get knobs like this guy who manipulate what is said. If a Greek Cypriot tries to explain how theyre community were not totally guilty between 1963-1874 (9 years in history - thats all TC's seem to harp on about), you get an asshole like this who says things like "by GCs who still think 1963 to 1974 was a heaven on earth for TCs".


You should try taking a "pause" and not avoid the question, and its 11 years not 9 of democracy and human rights GC style. You come off sounding like a jerk who has nothing concrete to say, we are well aware that Gc suffered a great deal in 1974 what you have to ask who allowed that situation to happen? and punish them not us who were only trying to survive against the numerical majority.
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Postby RebelWithoutAPause » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:42 pm

Do you know what happened in 1974? Are you saying Greek Cypriots were attacking Turkish Cypriots in 1974 and THEN the Turkish army invaded??? lol

Explain and dont be so vague.
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Postby zan » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:48 pm

RebelWithoutAPause wrote:Do you know what happened in 1974? Are you saying Greek Cypriots were attacking Turkish Cypriots in 1974 and THEN the Turkish army invaded??? lol

Explain and dont be so vague.


No everything was going just fine for the TCs......We were still in almost 3% of the island with all political power suspended. The GCs were arming up and then the Coupists arrived but we still felt safe....I was there two weeks before the Turkish intervention and saw my cousins van riddled with bullet holes from a Greek gun and we still felt safe. Then your Greeks started killing GCs by the hundred and putting a former henchman in the seat of power and we still felt safe. Greece was to take the island by force and we still felt safe....... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:07 pm

RebelWithoutAPause wrote:Do you know what happened in 1974? Are you saying Greek Cypriots were attacking Turkish Cypriots in 1974 and THEN the Turkish army invaded??? lol

Explain and dont be so vague.


Sampson:"Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed 'enosis,'I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus." Eleftherotipia, Feb. 26,1981

Says it all really.....now do you understnad? dont expect you to but please try even if its for just 1 second.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:17 pm

again viewpoint you willingly promote an example which presents a discredited and much unloved person as a typical Cypriot, of Greek origin. Always the same example, as well, I might add. I think time in your mind has stopped. No one is more important to you than this man and his ilk. You may be ill with a kind of depression, or you are a person just as unable as Sampson to confront your own fears. Living in denial is not healthy, look at the result in his life. Talking to people kindly, with this thinking in the back of your mind makes you no different to him, the same kind of madmen like him, that pollute all parts of the earth to this day.

I believe in you. You have the stomach to be discussing this Problem almost every day. You just have to believe in yourself. One day, beyond the simple answers we have constructed for ourselves today, change will be embraced, there will exist another answer completely different, the one that all can see as better, and it will resolve to give respect for one another a place in all our hearts, where we can work in cooperation, what should be natural; rather than in fear, with the promotion of ignorant thought.

As a consequence of dividing this island, none of this island's dwellers will ever be secure. Furthermore, Greece, Turkey, and the other interlocutors will have less security because of their stagnation in a policy where they remain as adversaries. If Turkey does not lead, it will be more difficult for the rest of the world. A mono clonal culture, like in the United States where everyone identifies themselves as American without hesitation, sustains itself because it is inclusive, and it can adapt to changes which are brought on by the distinctiveness, and the diversity of the people themselves, as Individuals, equal, under a Rule of Law. I like to think if Ataturk was alive today, he would have the courage to make everyone in Turkey learn English, and another language of their choosing as well as Turkish. If Ataturk was alive today, probably, Turkey, the Turkish State, would be functional in about 183 languages, and more Turkish would be spoken around the globe. Needless to say, States like the EU and China have some soul searching to do as well, when it comes to Accommodation, beyond wheel chair ramps and workers rights, and Turkey through its own reform must lead the way.


...like i said to you many times before, they don't have blackmen swinging from trees anymore.

In Cyprus, the countervailing powers exist to promote our own Identity. This very rare opportunity, to choose to be a country, and to represent ourselves in the world. It opens the question, not what we can get out of this opportunity for ourselves, rather, what we can give to the rest of Humanity as one people, a member of a larger family, of Man.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:41 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:again viewpoint you willingly promote an example which presents a discredited and much unloved person as a typical Cypriot, of Greek origin. Always the same example, as well, I might add. I think time in your mind has stopped. No one is more important to you than this man and his ilk. You may be ill with a kind of depression, or you are a person just as unable as Sampson to confront your own fears. Living in denial is not healthy, look at the result in his life. Talking to people kindly, with this thinking in the back of your mind makes you no different to him, the same kind of madmen like him, that pollute all parts of the earth to this day.

I believe in you. You have the stomach to be discussing this Problem almost every day. You just have to believe in yourself. One day, beyond the simple answers we have constructed for ourselves today, change will be embraced, there will exist another answer completely different, the one that all can see as better, and it will resolve to give respect for one another a place in all our hearts, where we can work in cooperation, what should be natural; rather than in fear, with the promotion of ignorant thought.

As a consequence of dividing this island, none of this island's dwellers will ever be secure. Furthermore, Greece, Turkey, and the other interlocutors will have less security because of their stagnation in a policy where they remain as adversaries. If Turkey does not lead, it will be more difficult for the rest of the world. A mono clonal culture, like in the United States where everyone identifies themselves as American without hesitation, sustains itself because it is inclusive, and it can adapt to changes which are brought on by the distinctiveness, and the diversity of the people themselves, as Individuals, equal, under a Rule of Law. I like to think if Ataturk was alive today, he would have the courage to make everyone in Turkey learn English, and another language of their choosing as well as Turkish. If Ataturk was alive today, probably, Turkey, the Turkish State, would be functional in about 183 languages, and more Turkish would be spoken around the globe. Needless to say, States like the EU and China have some soul searching to do as well, when it comes to Accommodation, beyond wheel chair ramps and workers rights, and Turkey through its own reform must lead the way.


...like i said to you many times before, they don't have blackmen swinging from trees anymore.

In Cyprus, the countervailing powers exist to promote our own Identity. This very rare opportunity, to choose to be a country, and to represent ourselves in the world. It opens the question, not what we can get out of this opportunity for ourselves, rather, what we can give to the rest of Humanity as one people, a member of a larger family, of Man.


What you seem to miss is that the example provided was a response to rebel stating that everything was fine in 1974 and we were all having a great time.

Repulse you to seem to live in some sort of utopia where no has bad intentions towards each other, unfortunately the world does not work that way and for the last 44 years all we have seen is GCs trying to get the upper hand and reduce us to minority status without any community rights to stop GCs from taking decisions on our behalf that will effect our community negatively.

Repulse the we do not trust GCs and the last 3 years have proved we cannot solve jack shit, agreed partition is the only solution and you to will realize this all you need is more time.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:17 pm

yes...in a way i am like Ataturk, or Ghandi, or Buddha, Mohammed, or Jesus Christ.
I choose to give Love, and I seek Grace. yes...i suppose i live in a Utopian world.

...You will have your partition, I hope, as an internal matter, amongst Cypriots. It will serve our focus, the need for respect and recognition of minorities in either majority. And I will have a country to be proud of where all of us, without the bias of being of an ethnicity or of another distinction stand united, as people, and as this island's stewards a proud partner in Humanity's condition.
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Postby Sophia1 » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:42 pm

Did you know Cyprus years ago was actually part of TURKEY? Did you know, Greeks were never part of Cyprus? We came much later..

Sorry guys I was just reading up some history and I am so shocked!!
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Postby Sophia1 » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:49 pm

Zan!!

I heard the same story... Man that was sick and I may add even more freaky!! Greeks use to burie people alive.. That is so shameful..
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Postby phoenix » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:55 pm

Sophia why not use a Turkish name or something neutral eh?

There's no shame in admitting you are Turkish . . . . we've known it all along :lol: :lol: :lol:
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