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[humanist]

VP that is the most hypocritical thing I have heard you say. We are not welcomed back even if we wanted to accept your so called laws.

I think it is time you chose between being Cypriot or Turk VP, in which case read the above and you will makesome people you do not like on this forum right in that TTurkish speaking Cypriots are guests in Cyprus. If 500 hundret year Cypriot history you can still call yourself a Turk, am sorry I can only conclude that Cyprus then is not your home.

No says bite the hand that feeds you, but you can sometimes say am grown up now and I can feed myself or make independant decisions that allow you to do so.

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humanist

VP that is the most hypocritical thing I have heard you say. We are not welcomed back even if we wanted to accept your so called laws.

Why do you say that? you can, the only thing you cannot do is move back into your old home. There are GCs living in the north you are also very welcome. The problem for the majority of GCs is accepting the TRNC and paying taxes to our government as it would be a sign of recognition.

I think it is time you chose between being Cypriot or Turk VP, in which case read the above and you will makesome people you do not like on this forum right in that TTurkish speaking Cypriots are guests in Cyprus. If 500 hundret year Cypriot history you can still call yourself a Turk, am sorry I can only conclude that Cyprus then is not your home.

Why do I have to choose? I am both Turkish and Cypriot, a Turkish Cypriot. Guest or not we are here and not going anywhere the Cyprus you call home is different from mine, you must have realized this by now.

No says bite the hand that feeds you, but you can sometimes say am grown up now and I can feed myself or make independant decisions that allow you to do so.

You have to be economically independent of your parents in order to branch out on your own and be independent, if isolation imposed by GCs does not allow us to gain financial independence than are you to blame? Its a catch 22 situation and on this issue I think the GCs are doing themselves a great dis-service as they are seen as the people who do not want us to improve economically just so that we will keep wanting a solution when in reality this has the opposite effect.

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vp wrote:
Its a catch 22 situation and on this issue I think the GCs are doing themselves a great dis-service as they are seen as the people who do not want us to improve economically just so that we will keep wanting a solution when in reality this has the opposite effect.

VP, whats so difficult to understand? Of course the GC's dont want you to improve economically at the expense of their homes and land.What else can you fight GHOSTS (untouchables)with?If you ever get in the EU, and you have a problem with another entity that cant get resolved domestically, then there is something called LAWS that EVERYONE has to abide to that are made for everyone, and NO ONE is exempt. If you cant follow basic laws that your still holding a grudge on then thats your problem, not the GC's. Quit pointing fingers and bringing up far fetched scenarios to prove your pathetic case to steal from others. Its a new year almost and your still bickering to the wall. Snap out of it and enjoy the fruits that your entitled to. We can only bring the horse to the creek to drink, the rest is up to him if hes thirsty.

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vp wrote:
Its a catch 22 situation and on this issue I think the GCs are doing themselves a great dis-service as they are seen as the people who do not want us to improve economically just so that we will keep wanting a solution when in reality this has the opposite effect.

VP, whats so difficult to understand? Of course the GC's dont want you to improve economically at the expense of their homes and land.What else can you fight GHOSTS (untouchables)with?If you ever get in the EU, and you have a problem with another entity that cant get resolved domestically, then there is something called LAWS that EVERYONE has to abide to that are made for everyone, and NO ONE is exempt. If you cant follow basic laws that your still holding a grudge on then thats your problem, not the GC's. Quit pointing fingers and bringing up far fetched scenarios to prove your pathetic case to steal from others. Its a new year almost and your still bickering to the wall. Snap out of it and enjoy the fruits that your entitled to. We can only bring the horse to the creek to drink, the rest is up to him if hes thirsty.

Not everyone is selling or living off disputed GC land. What you have not understood is that the more dependent we are on Turkey the more say they have in the north, so when GCs say TCs should stand on their own 2 feet and tell Turkey to get lost, how exactly are we to do this when we depend on them financing the TRNC.

We follow plenty of laws in the TRNC everyday and even GC state laws when we visit your country.

As to bearing grudges, we are the ones who said yes to comprehensive solution plan brokered by the UN, you are the ones who resoundingly said no.

[humanist]

Not everyone is selling or living off disputed GC land.

No one is stopping them either. And your regime is encouraging it. That's a great indication of respect and a move toward unification.

But then again VP you also feel that is fair that I am allowed to live in the trnc but not return to my land. So I have a home and land there but I should go and buy my compatriots land, pay some thief to sell me land that does not belong to them and that is fair. I don't think that is the basis for unification buddy.

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humanist

No one is stopping them either. And your regime is encouraging it. That's a great indication of respect and a move toward unification.

Its all a matter of economics, if we cannot grow in other areas where the GC isolation does not allow then it is only natural that those areas which are avaiilable will develop. On an individual basis people in the north do not believe there will ever be a solution especially after the referendum and have therefore sold exchanged land. The problems put before those TCs when trying to recliam their land back in the GC south are to much and there this also pushes TCs to sell off land they have exchanged. So GCs are not really doing themsleves any good by imposing isolation not returning land.

But then again VP you also feel that is fair that I am allowed to live in the trnc but not return to my land. So I have a home and land there but I should go and buy my compatriots land, pay some thief to sell me land that does not belong to them and that is fair. I don't think that is the basis for unification buddy.

You have just the right to try and claim your land back via the property commissiom here in the TRNC, just like I have the right to go claim mine in the south, the uphill battle is equal on both sides. You can buy Turkish title deeds which are not disputed, where there is a will there is a way but obviously you do not have the will.

[humanist]

VP thank you for your response. I am not going to get into it, because we are obviously at two different points in our lives and hold different belief systems.

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VP thank you for your response. I am not going to get into it, because we are obviously at two different points in our lives and hold different belief systems.

I agree and this is exactly why division will continue well into the future.

[humanist]

well to be honest, I much rather that than live among people who excuse down right exploitative and unethical practices.

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well to be honest, I much rather that than live among people who excuse down right exploitative and unethical practices.

Its called survival