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[Jerry]

Does any of you have an original copy of the full story?

We cannot comment the sentence if we have not at least reviewed the case.

Try here

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 3&cat_id=1

or GOOGLE Cyprus Mail Julian Harrington - it ain't rocket science!

[pantheman]

Does any of you have an original copy of the full story?

We cannot comment the sentence if we have not at least reviewed the case.

Try here

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 3&cat_id=1

or GOOGLE Cyprus Mail Julian Harrington - it ain't rocket science!

Thank you Jerry,

maybe Bubbles can take a look too!

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

Surely the part I have highlighted cannot be true!?!?!?!?

Cyprus manslaughter - appeal fails
19 December 2007 | 14:57

JAMES HORE

Julian Harrington
THE FAMILY of a man jailed for the manslaughter of a Cypriot teenager have been left “devastated” after his appeal was thrown out.

Julian Harrington is serving 15 years in prison after he pleaded guilty to his involvement in a road crash on the island in August last year.

Mr Harrington's appeal went ahead at Nicosia Supreme Court earlier this month and his family was hoping the sentence would be cut to eight years.

But his family were stunned today when they were told the appeal had been dismissed.

Richard Howitt, an MEP backing Mr Harrington, said the decision was “deeply flawed” and said the case could be taken all the way to the European Court.

The couple's lawyer outlined the appeal, arguing Mr Harrington's 15-year term was “manifestly excessive” compared to sentences handed to Cypriots for similar offences.

Mr Harrington has been in jail since the collision between the hire car he was driving and a moped which led to the death of the 17-year-old moped passenger.

The 40-year-old from Witham, who had been on the island to arrange his wedding, admitted to the manslaughter of Christos Papiris to ensure his nephews, who were passengers in his car, would be acquitted of manslaughter.

Mr Howitt said: “Our own legal advice from Cypriot and British lawyers showed that Julian has been given an excessive sentence simply because he is a foreign national and was involved in what appears quite simply to be a tragic road accident.

“We hoped that Julian's appeal would result in his sentence being halved, but his family have seen their hopes destroyed. I feel for their sense of devastation.

“I am deeply disturbed they were only informed of the court date as late as yesterday, and that even the British Consul was not able to be present at such short notice.

“My message is that we should appeal this right up to the European Court if necessary, until we get justice for Julian.”

Bubbles x

oh bubbles, shame on you! you have read the article from an english gutter press point of view! before you spout your " he is only getting 15 years cos he is english routine" think about what was going through the poor innocent victims mind while he was being hunted down like an animal and murdered! in cyprus murder is still rare and should be punishable by death! after all we dont want cyprus to end up like england do we where life is cheap? why did these animals hunt down and kill an innocent boy? if they had been assaulted in a club why didnt they have the balls to go back to the club and sort out those who assaulted them? i will tell you why, cos as per usuall the english probably got drunk acted like idiots untill some cypriot kicked their arse, they didnt have the bottle to sort it out and so they took it out on a complete stranger! my uncle runs the biggest security company on the island, and my cousin is the most respected bouncer in ayia napa and i have also worked as security there so i see how the english behave with a drink inside them! so please dont condone the action of mindless animals! the english have to learn to behave in cyprus! cos now we have learned to fight back! this aint the fifties anymore where the english done whatever they wanted on the island!

[webbo]

I have every right actually and whilst I am not condoning this mans actions justice should be served. Where did you get that he was chasing this boys vehicle? (Is this personal to you?) It has been reported as a terrible accident? Your comments have left me totally confused

Bubbles, come on. Have you actually read about this case. This fella was with his nephews who deliberately went out to harm a cypriot cos is nephews got assulted in some club.

They saw the victim on his moped with another passanger and chased him. They knocked him down DELIBERATELY with the intention of killing him. (what else would you hope to achieve by running someone over?)

This was no ordinary traffic accident.

Unless, this is another one of your jokes, i think you should just stick to tell them, you do a far better job.

Its nothing personal, i don't know any of the parties and it is typical of someone like you to think that because everyone knows someone. attitude.

I did not say he should get the term because he was a foriegner, anyone who did that should get it, and god forbidding, if it were any member of my family, he wouldn't even make it to prison, if you catch my drift?

anyhow, go read the case then come back and tell me what you really think, because seems to me you have gone off half cock.

I can only speak as I find and I must have been off island when this incident occurred as this is the first I have heard of it! I only noiticed it for the first time on the forum this morning

You seem to be able to read minds as you have presumed that I linked you with the boys which is 'typical of someone like me'! I only asked as you seemed to have more of an insight in your reply.

I will endeavour to read the story, if I can find it

Bubbles x

[webbo]

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oh bubbles, shame on you! you have read the article from an english gutter press point of view! before you spout your " he is only getting 15 years cos he is english routine" think about what was going through the poor innocent victims mind while he was being hunted down like an animal and murdered! in cyprus murder is still rare and should be punishable by death! after all we dont want cyprus to end up like england do we where life is cheap? why did these animals hunt down and kill an innocent boy? if they had been assaulted in a club why didnt they have the balls to go back to the club and sort out those who assaulted them? i will tell you why, cos as per usuall the english probably got drunk acted like idiots untill some cypriot kicked their arse, they didnt have the bottle to sort it out and so they took it out on a complete stranger! my uncle runs the biggest security company on the island, and my cousin is the most respected bouncer in ayia napa and i have also worked as security there so i see how the english behave with a drink inside them! so please dont condone the action of mindless animals! the english have to learn to behave in cyprus! cos now we have learned to fight back! this aint the fifties anymore where the english done whatever they wanted on the island!

How can you say that when the Mail is also running the story! I am not 'spouting' as you put it, and it would not matter if this man was English, Greek or from Mars, justice has to be seen to be done. That is the only point I was trying to convey!!

Bubbles x

[pantheman]

I have every right actually and whilst I am not condoning this mans actions justice should be served. Where did you get that he was chasing this boys vehicle? (Is this personal to you?) It has been reported as a terrible accident? Your comments have left me totally confused

Bubbles, come on. Have you actually read about this case. This fella was with his nephews who deliberately went out to harm a cypriot cos is nephews got assulted in some club.

They saw the victim on his moped with another passanger and chased him. They knocked him down DELIBERATELY with the intention of killing him. (what else would you hope to achieve by running someone over?)

This was no ordinary traffic accident.

Unless, this is another one of your jokes, i think you should just stick to tell them, you do a far better job.

Its nothing personal, i don't know any of the parties and it is typical of someone like you to think that because everyone knows someone. attitude.

I did not say he should get the term because he was a foriegner, anyone who did that should get it, and god forbidding, if it were any member of my family, he wouldn't even make it to prison, if you catch my drift?

anyhow, go read the case then come back and tell me what you really think, because seems to me you have gone off half cock.

I can only speak as I find and I must have been off island when this incident occurred as this is the first I have heard of it! I only noiticed it for the first time on the forum this morning

You seem to be able to read minds as you have presumed that I linked you with the boys which is 'typical of someone like me'! I only asked as you seemed to have more of an insight in your reply.

I will endeavour to read the story, if I can find it

Bubbles x

OK Bubbles, I see what you meant now, sorry, i misunderstood what you were saying earlier. But, I still stand by what I said before.

Anyway, no offence intended.

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

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oh bubbles, shame on you! you have read the article from an english gutter press point of view! before you spout your " he is only getting 15 years cos he is english routine" think about what was going through the poor innocent victims mind while he was being hunted down like an animal and murdered! in cyprus murder is still rare and should be punishable by death! after all we dont want cyprus to end up like england do we where life is cheap? why did these animals hunt down and kill an innocent boy? if they had been assaulted in a club why didnt they have the balls to go back to the club and sort out those who assaulted them? i will tell you why, cos as per usuall the english probably got drunk acted like idiots untill some cypriot kicked their arse, they didnt have the bottle to sort it out and so they took it out on a complete stranger! my uncle runs the biggest security company on the island, and my cousin is the most respected bouncer in ayia napa and i have also worked as security there so i see how the english behave with a drink inside them! so please dont condone the action of mindless animals! the english have to learn to behave in cyprus! cos now we have learned to fight back! this aint the fifties anymore where the english done whatever they wanted on the island!

How can you say that when the Mail is also running the story! I am not 'spouting' as you put it, and it would not matter if this man was English, Greek or from Mars, justice has to be seen to be done. That is the only point I was trying to convey!!

Bubbles x

bubbles just please keep something in mind when reading the daily rags,"paper never refused ink" the daily mail is known for sensationalizing non-stories!

and just to clarify 1 other point, i`m not saying that the culprit should be punished more severely cos he`s english, i would feel the same whatever race he was, in fact weve come to expect loutish, beer fuelled, brits abroad behaviour! i would be more shocked and apaulled had the murderer been a cypriot

[webbo]

I have every right actually and whilst I am not condoning this mans actions justice should be served. Where did you get that he was chasing this boys vehicle? (Is this personal to you?) It has been reported as a terrible accident? Your comments have left me totally confused

Bubbles, come on. Have you actually read about this case. This fella was with his nephews who deliberately went out to harm a cypriot cos is nephews got assulted in some club.

They saw the victim on his moped with another passanger and chased him. They knocked him down DELIBERATELY with the intention of killing him. (what else would you hope to achieve by running someone over?)

This was no ordinary traffic accident.

Unless, this is another one of your jokes, i think you should just stick to tell them, you do a far better job.

Its nothing personal, i don't know any of the parties and it is typical of someone like you to think that because everyone knows someone. attitude.

I did not say he should get the term because he was a foriegner, anyone who did that should get it, and god forbidding, if it were any member of my family, he wouldn't even make it to prison, if you catch my drift?

anyhow, go read the case then come back and tell me what you really think, because seems to me you have gone off half cock.

I can only speak as I find and I must have been off island when this incident occurred as this is the first I have heard of it! I only noiticed it for the first time on the forum this morning

You seem to be able to read minds as you have presumed that I linked you with the boys which is 'typical of someone like me'! I only asked as you seemed to have more of an insight in your reply.

I will endeavour to read the story, if I can find it

Bubbles x

OK Bubbles, I see what you meant now, sorry, i misunderstood what you were saying earlier. But, I still stand by what I said before.

Anyway, no offence intended.

Non taken, we all have our views. I have read the newslink that ? (Jerry, I think) posted earlier and I can see why everyone was so upset, sorry!

Bubbles x

[webbo]

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oh bubbles, shame on you! you have read the article from an english gutter press point of view! before you spout your " he is only getting 15 years cos he is english routine" think about what was going through the poor innocent victims mind while he was being hunted down like an animal and murdered! in cyprus murder is still rare and should be punishable by death! after all we dont want cyprus to end up like england do we where life is cheap? why did these animals hunt down and kill an innocent boy? if they had been assaulted in a club why didnt they have the balls to go back to the club and sort out those who assaulted them? i will tell you why, cos as per usuall the english probably got drunk acted like idiots untill some cypriot kicked their arse, they didnt have the bottle to sort it out and so they took it out on a complete stranger! my uncle runs the biggest security company on the island, and my cousin is the most respected bouncer in ayia napa and i have also worked as security there so i see how the english behave with a drink inside them! so please dont condone the action of mindless animals! the english have to learn to behave in cyprus! cos now we have learned to fight back! this aint the fifties anymore where the english done whatever they wanted on the island!

How can you say that when the Mail is also running the story! I am not 'spouting' as you put it, and it would not matter if this man was English, Greek or from Mars, justice has to be seen to be done. That is the only point I was trying to convey!!

Bubbles x

bubbles just please keep something in mind when reading the daily rags,"paper never refused ink" the daily mail is known for sensationalizing non-stories!

and just to clarify 1 other point, i`m not saying that the culprit should be punished more severely cos he`s english, i would feel the same whatever race he was, in fact weve come to expect loutish, beer fuelled, brits abroad behaviour! i would be more shocked and apaulled had the murderer been a cypriot

Dino, I think I will keep my 'copy and paste' to trivial matters in the future as I have upset too many people today.

Bubbles x

[denizaksulu]

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oh bubbles, shame on you! you have read the article from an english gutter press point of view! before you spout your " he is only getting 15 years cos he is english routine" think about what was going through the poor innocent victims mind while he was being hunted down like an animal and murdered! in cyprus murder is still rare and should be punishable by death! after all we dont want cyprus to end up like england do we where life is cheap? why did these animals hunt down and kill an innocent boy? if they had been assaulted in a club why didnt they have the balls to go back to the club and sort out those who assaulted them? i will tell you why, cos as per usuall the english probably got drunk acted like idiots untill some cypriot kicked their arse, they didnt have the bottle to sort it out and so they took it out on a complete stranger! my uncle runs the biggest security company on the island, and my cousin is the most respected bouncer in ayia napa and i have also worked as security there so i see how the english behave with a drink inside them! so please dont condone the action of mindless animals! the english have to learn to behave in cyprus! cos now we have learned to fight back! this aint the fifties anymore where the english done whatever they wanted on the island!

How can you say that when the Mail is also running the story! I am not 'spouting' as you put it, and it would not matter if this man was English, Greek or from Mars, justice has to be seen to be done. That is the only point I was trying to convey!!

Bubbles x

bubbles just please keep something in mind when reading the daily rags,"paper never refused ink" the daily mail is known for sensationalizing non-stories!

and just to clarify 1 other point, i`m not saying that the culprit should be punished more severely cos he`s english, i would feel the same whatever race he was, in fact weve come to expect loutish, beer fuelled, brits abroad behaviour! i would be more shocked and apaulled had the murderer been a cypriot

Dino, I think I will keep my 'copy and paste' to trivial matters in the future as I have upset too many people today.

Bubbles x

Bubbles/Webbo, we all are guilty of that 'crime'. No Fear, Do not despair. Its impossible to read all press and forum entries. You have made your apologies which is more than others do. Having read the full story as it happened I also was shocked at the sentencing. Its the old brain cells, dying off.

Regards