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[boulio]

Doubt though you may yet if I ever decide to take a court action based on the failure of the 64 (all GC) RoC 'duty of care' to my uncle

you keep bring up your uncle erolz,why havent you gone to court over this?if its to personal i apologize,but youve mentioned it a couple of times and im wondering why you havent taken action?

[-mikkie2-]

All this talk about financial liability of a federal solution will boil down to one thing. If the GC's are the ones that have to pay for most of all this then can you people stop and think how every single GC tax payer will feel? You want political equality, you want limits of freedom of movement and on top of it, it may be that we are going to have to pick up the tab for most of this. Well I tell you that most GC's will actually feel very hard done by and you can bet you bottom dollar that most people will not view the TC community in a good way. People will be out in the streets demonstrating.

If Turkey would partially finance the TC component state so as to be less of a burden on the whole of Cyprus then it would go a large way to appeasing a large majority of people. These things need to be thought about. Turkey in the end has a large responsibility to bear as well. The Annan plan absolved her of ALL responsibility, including financial. This must change.

[erolz]

I was just pointing out the obvious fact that the glorious ethnically pure TC state will be a leach.

and there was me thinking you thought you had found another 'reason' to deny the TC community any politcial equality in their own shared homeland. Actually we want a multi cultural NCS (northern consitutient state) with TC and GC and British and Indians and Germans and Fijians - just as long as we do not become the an ethnic minoirty within our consitiutent state - just like any multicultural state.

See You in Court.

Doubt it though you may yet if I ever decide to take a court action based on the failure of the 64 (all GC) RoC 'duty of care' to my uncle.

Actually why ot just be done with it and put your 'tag line' into your signature - might save your typing fingers a bit.

[garbitsch]

Otherwise, stop cheating us!

You are cheating from us 1/3rd of our country. The "good boy" policies from our site are over.

Your country?? plus who gave you the right to speak on behalf of the RoC government? I still see RoC govt claiming that Annan plan is not dead and the next solution attempt should be based on it. Am I wrong?

[boulio]

garb the annan plan is dead as is,but the fundemental aspect of bi-zonal federation which it triesd to achive is not

piratis didnt say my country but our country meaning yours as well.

[erolz]

All this talk about financial liability of a federal solution will boil down to one thing. If the GC's are the ones that have to pay for most of all this then can you people stop and think how every single GC tax payer will feel? You want political equality, you want limits of freedom of movement and on top of it, it may be that we are going to have to pick up the tab for most of this. Well I tell you that most GC's will actually feel very hard done by and you can bet you bottom dollar that most people will not view the TC community in a good way. People will be out in the streets demonstrating.

Whats the problem here? Within our consituent state we will pay out taxes and spend our taxes.

At the federal level if you insist we pay equaly (in absolute terms to the SCS) because we have political equality then we will take out from federal funds equaly. If we pay in proportionate to our population sizes then we will take out accordingly. Whats the problem?

Personally I would like to seem some sort of 'progressive' nature to taxation at all levels (progressive taxation means taxation based on income/ wealth and not equal taxation for all regardless of wealth) - but if it is going to 'upset' you I can live without it.
Do the richest say 10% in the RoC 'take to the streets' on the basis of the blatantly unfair situation that they pay more in but do not get to take more out in taxes?

[Piratis]

Your country??

of course.

still see RoC govt claiming that Annan plan is not dead and the next solution attempt should be based on it. Am I wrong?

Annan plan was rejected. "based" on Annan plan can mean many things. Don't expect another referendum were the GCs will vote "no". It will be either a referendum were we will vote "yes" (meaning that many significant changes have been made)or no referendum at all.
So the Annan plan as you know it is dead and buried.

[garbitsch]

Annan planını “ölmüş” olarak görmediğimizi ifade ettik. Bu plan, Kıbrıs sorununun çözüm parametrelerini içerdiği için tartışma gündeminde kalacak bir plandır.

This quote was taken from the official statement of Hristofias on 22 May, 2004 from the official website of AKEL. He basically claims `we do not see Annan plan as dead. Since this plan contains the parameters for the solution of the Cyprus problem, it will still stay on the agenda for further discussions.

I well now that the 5th Annan plan is dead, but the further negotiations will be done on the basis of it. Not another plan will be written. AKEL's official position is to find a solution, which will not be against the essence of the Annan plan. Damn, these are what your government is saying, not me!

[Agios Amvrosios]

just like any multicultural state

The proposals you are coming up with are nothing like any other state in the universe

[garbitsch]

piratis didnt say my country but our country meaning yours as well.

Apparently he said and now he deserves