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Postby erolz » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:15 am

Piratis wrote:
Ok. Well, my position on the topic is that money should not buy more political power.


The we are in total agreement. It was AA in his original post who created the link between political representation and finacnial contribution. It seems we both refute this linkage as a matter of principal.

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However, proportionally large political power can bring for the ones that have it proportionately large amounts of money.


Certainly political power accrues to the wealthy despite the apparent equal political representation they have to the ppor. This to me seems another good reason for there to be political equality between the two communites in Cyprus beacuse even ignoring our numerical numbers GC as a community are richer than TC as a community and thus will have more effective power even with equal representation (just as richer indivduals will have within the component states).
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Postby Piratis » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:18 am

If this would be the case - I am adding the restoration of Guarantee agreements to the list- then the EU membership of RoC should be declared null and void, since Cyprus cannot become part of an international organisation, if one of the Guarantee states is not a member.


First end the occupation, return our properties, and then if you want to get out of the EU no problem.
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Postby garbitsch » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:20 am

if you want to get out of the EU no problem.


I am talking about Republic of Cyprus. It's not our choice to get out, the membership of RoC will be automatically null and void. I think it's getting too late and time to sleep, since you seem not want to understand my points.
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:26 am

Are you living in Fiji or something?


Fiji in 2005 is more progressive and democratic than you think, despite its own version of ethnic rivalry. I think its becuase they do not have to deal with moronic proposals like being forced to accept a federal solution where the party insisting on this solution can't even pay its own way.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:34 am

the membership of RoC will be automatically null and void.


No problem.
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Postby erolz » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:35 am

Agios Amvrosios wrote: I think its becuase they do not have to deal with moronic proposals like being forced to accept a federal solution where the party insisting on this solution can't even pay its own way.


Ahh - now I get you. We can not have a federated Cyprus because we (TC) are too poor to have a federated Cyprus. What an novel and interesting approach (to find reasons to deny TC community any political equality in their own homeland) :) So if we were richer you would have no problem with a federal solution in Cyprus (somehow I doubt it). How about if we were 5 times richer as a community than the GC community - would you argue that the GC community should be a political minority? And there was me thinking that democracy applied to people / component states and states on the basis of equality of the entity concerned - when actually it should apply to the relative wealth of these entites (indivduals, component states or states). How silly of me.

Again appologies for any sarcastic tone in the above - but really !
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Postby garbitsch » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:39 am

The current policy of the government of Republic of Cyprus is to have a solution on the basis on the Annan plan - even AKEL wanted some guarantees for the workability of the plan to say NAI and that was all. So, the officially elected gov of RoC has full of morons??? Is that what you are saying? You should first solve your problem with yourselves, then with Turkish Cypriots. Otherwise, stop cheating us! We have the capability to play the game more than you think.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:39 am

I guess what AA is trying to say is that the federal kind of solution, with the several parliaments, governments etc, will be very expensive to run and the GCs will be called to pay for this huge inefficient creation.

For me this is not a principle point, since there are other more fundamental problems to worry about first. However it is still a point.
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:43 am

What an novel and interesting approach (to find reasons to deny TC community any political equality in their own homeland) So if we were richer you would have no problem with a federal solution in Cyprus


I was just pointing out the obvious fact that the glorious ethnically pure TC state will be a leach.

I would still see an ethnically pure TC state as grossly illegal and unethical.

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Postby Piratis » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:44 am

Otherwise, stop cheating us!


You are cheating from us 1/3rd of our country. The "good boy" policies from our site are over.
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