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[cymart]

Apparently Turkey has threatened to stop financial aid to the north unless Talat grants citizenship to another 50.000 mainland Turks!If he agrees,the Turkish Cypriots will become a minority and turn against him as it is well known that most of them don't want the settlers but if he refuses the economy in the north will be in worse straits than it is already.......
Relevant to this subject is last Sundays Politis article by Yiangos Mikellides in support of Costas Themistocleous,in which he says,amongs other things,that we could quite easily have worked out a way for G.C.'s T.C's and the 40 or 50.000 Turkish mainlanders who would have been allowed to stay here as part of a solution under the Annan Plan to all get along and co-operate.There are mainlanders married to Turkish Cypriots and children who have been born here,such as those in my father-in-laws family home in Karpasia who consider Cyprus as their home and on humanitarian grounds,neither the E.U, U.N. or anyone else would agree to them being forcibly deported from Cyprus.If there is no solution,Turkey can continue to swamp the north and there is nothing we can do about it......While we are on the subject of immigrants,this side of Cyprus is also overwhelmed with people from all over the world-have walk around the old city of Nicosia on the Greek side for example and you will find it hard to meet a local person, rather than someone from a third world country and probably Moslem as well!!Paphos where I live, now has more foreigners than Cypriots ,many of whom are employed in menial,lowly paid jobs which Cypriots refuse to do and make a very important contribution to the economy,regardless of what some xenophobic and nationalist groups try to propogate!In addition there are around 10.000 retired British people in Paphos who contribute a lot to the Cypriot economy and are legally here along with other E.U. citizens.With this in mind,the issue of 40 or 50.000 settlers in the north is not a such a big problem to resolve-the real danger is that they still keep on sending over new ones and the only way to stop this is to find a solution under which they will not be able to come over here freely any longer!
This is why people who attack myself and Bananiot for our supposedly treacherous ideas in compromising are so incomprehensible:do they really think that all the new houses and hotels which are being built on Greek-Cypriot land in the north will ever be returned to us??Take the Kaya Artemis for example, a $300 million investment in Bafra/Vokolidha.....And the Yeni Erenkoy/Yialousa international tourism complex and marina??
By just saying 'no,no ,no' to a solution we are actively contributing to the continuation of the current situation whch is deteriorating in favour of the other side day by day!This is nothing to do with politics and can be seen by anyone who drives across there for the day and has look around for themself!They can go on accusing,theorising,shouting etc etc. ad infinitum but the reality is there and set very much in stone.....
So let's cool down,drop the foul language and expletives which appreared again yesterday from a certain P....and think just how to get ourselves out of the mess we are obviously already very deeply in!

[raymanuva]

Lets all wait till February, the real presidency usually lasts about 6 months... thats where all drastic measures are taken. So if within 8 months there is no noticeable progress is made with Cyprus problem issue - then thats it. Thats if of course PAPA is not reelected... if he is reelected in February then you can kiss north goodbye. I wish Talat will say no to more settlers, all tho he haven't got balls to do that since he is just a puppet. So if Turkey decides to settle 50000 more people in north, it will happen whether Talat wants it or not.

The way i see it is that in long term i am paying this with my tax money... for every compromise GC government will do to north... and Turkey is just making it worse and worse by every political Mistake PAPA makes.....fuck
this.

[pantheman]

Yeah well done Cymart an absolute classic, can't get in throught the back door , now try the basement window.

Anything to get your stuff huh?

As they say you can run, but you can't hide. And as for the language useage, ok, I will try harder just for you. But what I said still counts.

Basically now you are scare mongering, so now we have to submit to the threats. here is Turkey in action, and this the country that the anglo-americans want so dearly to force into the EU. Backdoor, frontdoor, sidedoor, any door as long as they get in.

A criminal will always keepup his criminal activities until stopped. What needs to happen is for the the international community to tell Turkey to stop, not you tell us to accept their crimes.

Isn't is againt the geneva convention to mass populate an invaded country with the view to changing its demographics ?

Go ask your buddies in turkey and then come and scare us.

Criminals need to obey the law not the law to bend to suit them

Sorry to disappoint you and spoil your plans yet again.

Have a nice day.

[raymanuva]

Isn't is againt the geneva convention to mass populate an invaded country with the view to changing its demographics ?

It is, and is there anything which was done in the past 33 years to stop them? maybe they weren't arriving in 50K packs... but the strategic change of demographic in the north is obvious to every Gaydaro...

[cymart]

Even the Greek-Cypriots admit themselves that they have very few friends left in the world because Papad's attitude has alienated them all!It's not what you say but how you say it,yet the guy still doesn't see the value of diplomacy!Someone should send him that famous book by Dale Carnegie'How to win friends and influence people.'
God help whoever has to go round and try to repair the damage he has done,whether it's Cassoulides or Christophias!

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

Isn't is againt the geneva convention to mass populate an invaded country with the view to changing its demographics ?

It is, and is there anything which was done in the past 33 years to stop them? maybe they weren't arriving in 50K packs... but the strategic change of demographic in the north is obvious to every Gaydaro...

when are people gonna finally realise, cy is finished! there is no solution! gb usa and turkey are in this together, no-one has the balls to stand up to them! the only chance cy ever had was russia! and we blew it so now forget about it! turkey will continue to do what she wants and no number of men in grey suits from europe will do a thing about it cos thats what usa wants. eventually turkey will take the whole island without even using guns! sad but true! get used to it people! better start learning to speak turkish and becoming muslims i`m afraid cos thats what the future holds for us! its also the fault of every cypriot traitor that has lived from then till now, and the scary thing is cypriots still havnt learned by their mistakes! and continue to make the same ones, like waiting for the people who caused all this to put it right we are without a doubt the laughing stock of the world

[Kifeas]

Even the Greek-Cypriots admit themselves that they have very few friends left in the world because Papad's attitude has alienated them all!It's not what you say but how you say it,yet the guy still doesn't see the value of diplomacy!Someone should send him that famous book by Dale Carnegie'How to win friends and influence people.'
God help whoever has to go round and try to repair the damage he has done,whether it's Cassoulides or Christophias!

Cymart, I see you are rapidly growing into a perfect mouthpiece of Kasoulide's pre-election propaganda! Say something original my dear and stop repeating and regurgitating the ridiculous campaign arguments of the anti-Papadopoulos camp, like a third rate parrot! If we do not have friends, as you so stupidly allege, how it comes and we got 3 out of the 5 UN SC permanent members on our side, and managed to change the last UN resolution in our favor, so that it doesn't adopt Kofi Anan successor’s ridiculous report! Say something original and genuine, rather than been a pathetic parrot retransmitting others’ empty slogans, in their effort to win the elections!

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

Even the Greek-Cypriots admit themselves that they have very few friends left in the world because Papad's attitude has alienated them all!It's not what you say but how you say it,yet the guy still doesn't see the value of diplomacy!Someone should send him that famous book by Dale Carnegie'How to win friends and influence people.'
God help whoever has to go round and try to repair the damage he has done,whether it's Cassoulides or Christophias!

absolutely right cymart!- except for the fact that it is a complete load of bollocks

[Sotos]

Talat? Mikellides? Themistocleous?

[Nikitas]

Cymart wrote:

"There are mainlanders married to Turkish Cypriots and children who have been born here,such as those in my father-in-laws family home in Karpasia who consider Cyprus as their home and on humanitarian grounds,neither the E.U, U.N. or anyone else would agree to them being forcibly deported from Cyprus"

My goodness, we should accept them forever on humanitarian grounds! Hand me a tissue while I wipe away the tears!!!!

What a crock! These people are put on the island in the course of criminal colonization which is expressly forbidden by the UN Charter. Colonization is a CRIME. Trying to equate settlers with legal residents from EU and other countries borders on FRAUD.

No one suggests that they be moved forcibly. They will be compensated to go back where they come from. And they DO have a place to go to.

It is a nonsense to say that the settlers stay, when true Cypriots, both Greek and Turkish, who were forced by circumstances to emigrate, and they really have no other place to call home than Cyprus, get jack shit!

If anyone expects me to take a plan seriously then they must show me the provisions for CYPRIOTS, not 21st century colonizers, to return to Cyprus. This semi romantic shit (they grew up on the island etc) and the semi humanitarian crap about how it would be inhumane to force them to leave now they have grown up on the island wont wash. Fuck them! They knew the score when they moved to another country and took over someone else's property. They should thank their lucky stars for the money they will get to leave and do just that, LEAVE!!!!