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[phoenix]

I agree with Nikitas.

Those settlers had a choice to leave Anatolia . . . but the Cypriot refugees did not have a choice to leave their homes. They were forced to leave . . . what about their Human rights?

[MR-from-NG]

Cymart wrote:

"There are mainlanders married to Turkish Cypriots and children who have been born here,such as those in my father-in-laws family home in Karpasia who consider Cyprus as their home and on humanitarian grounds,neither the E.U, U.N. or anyone else would agree to them being forcibly deported from Cyprus"

My goodness, we should accept them forever on humanitarian grounds! Hand me a tissue while I wipe away the tears!!!!

What a crock! These people are put on the island in the course of criminal colonization which is expressly forbidden by the UN Charter. Colonization is a CRIME. Trying to equate settlers with legal residents from EU and other countries borders on FRAUD.

No one suggests that they be moved forcibly. They will be compensated to go back where they come from. And they DO have a place to go to.

It is a nonsense to say that the settlers stay, when true Cypriots, both Greek and Turkish, who were forced by circumstances to emigrate, and they really have no other place to call home than Cyprus, get jack shit!

If anyone expects me to take a plan seriously then they must show me the provisions for CYPRIOTS, not 21st century colonizers, to return to Cyprus. This semi romantic shit (they grew up on the island etc) and the semi humanitarian crap about how it would be inhumane to force them to leave now they have grown up on the island wont wash. Fuck them! They knew the score when they moved to another country and took over someone else's property. They should thank their lucky stars for the money they will get to leave and do just that, LEAVE!!!!

Typical Greek attitude. full of arrogance and ignorance. Idi Amin would be a saint compared to you lot.

[MR-from-NG]

I agree with Nikitas.

Those settlers had a choice to leave Anatolia . . . but the Cypriot refugees did not have a choice to leave their homes. They were forced to leave . . . what about their Human rights?

Of course you would, sitting comfortably in your semi in Palmers Greek.

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

I agree with Nikitas.

Those settlers had a choice to leave Anatolia . . . but the Cypriot refugees did not have a choice to leave their homes. They were forced to leave . . . what about their Human rights?

Of course you would, sitting comfortably in your semi in Palmers Greek.

oh come on guys sort it out ffs! theres a world full of tossers to hate out there why do we have to do it to eachother? any way probably more turks than greeks in palmers greek nowadays

[cymart]

Whether they came to Karpasia and settled in G.C. houses etc. or the people in Peyia and elsewhere sold out their land to Aristo to build houses and flats for foreigners,the outcome is the same-less and less Cypriots and more and more outsiders-in a few years they will take over the island and a few years after that,people will be asking'Cypriots-who were they???'
O.K. the former case is illegal and the second legal but the action is still CRIMINAL except the perpetrators are different!
But will anyone ever protest about it as long as the money keeps rolling in????

[MR-from-NG]

I agree with Nikitas.

Those settlers had a choice to leave Anatolia . . . but the Cypriot refugees did not have a choice to leave their homes. They were forced to leave . . . what about their Human rights?

Of course you would, sitting comfortably in your semi in Palmers Greek.

oh come on guys sort it out ffs! theres a world full of tossers to hate out there why do we have to do it to eachother? any way probably more turks than greeks in palmers greek nowadays

Very well said Dinos. I'd like to think Cypriots (GC&TC) are unique in that they are kind, generous, hospitable and respectful towards their fellow man.

Sadly though when it comes to sharing these qualities with our neighbours/compatriots we fail miserably. All because of different religion and different language.

[DINOS SKALIOTIS]

I agree with Nikitas.

Those settlers had a choice to leave Anatolia . . . but the Cypriot refugees did not have a choice to leave their homes. They were forced to leave . . . what about their Human rights?

Of course you would, sitting comfortably in your semi in Palmers Greek.

oh come on guys sort it out ffs! theres a world full of tossers to hate out there why do we have to do it to eachother? any way probably more turks than greeks in palmers greek nowadays

Very well said Dinos. I'd like to think Cypriots (GC&TC) are unique in that they are kind, generous, hospitable and respectful towards their fellow man.

Sadly though when it comes to sharing these qualities with our neighbours/compatriots we fail miserably. All because of different religion and different language.

but are we our grandparents ffs? when are we gonna realise that BOTH these religions are full of shit! islam and greek orthodox! what aload of old bollocks, neither have a place in modern day! the sooner we all get this through our thick skulls the better! cos take religion away and the truth is we have little else to fight about

[MR-from-NG]

I agree with Nikitas.

Those settlers had a choice to leave Anatolia . . . but the Cypriot refugees did not have a choice to leave their homes. They were forced to leave . . . what about their Human rights?

Of course you would, sitting comfortably in your semi in Palmers Greek.

oh come on guys sort it out ffs! theres a world full of tossers to hate out there why do we have to do it to eachother? any way probably more turks than greeks in palmers greek nowadays

Very well said Dinos. I'd like to think Cypriots (GC&TC) are unique in that they are kind, generous, hospitable and respectful towards their fellow man.

Sadly though when it comes to sharing these qualities with our neighbours/compatriots we fail miserably. All because of different religion and different language.

but are we our grandparents ffs? when are we gonna realise that BOTH these religions are full of shit! islam and greek orthodox! what aload of old bollocks, neither have a place in modern day! the sooner we all get this through our thick skulls the better! cos take religion away and the truth is we have little else to fight about

100% in agreement with you Dinos. They say "money is the root of all evil" I disagree, its religion that is the root of all our problems.

[Tim Drayton]

Think about it. Some children were born to Anatolian settlers in Cyprus in 1974. They will be 33 now. Some of these must have have married and had thier own children by now. I have never personally met such people, but they must exist. As time goes by there will be more and more third-generation settlers. This is yet another complication that is creeping in as time goes by.
Another thought. The number of EU nationals settling in Cyprus is increasing. It is no longer only retired people who are doing so. Since Cyprus acceded to the EU a large number of British people of working age, myself included, have decided to move here and work or start businesses. We are perfectly entitled to do this, just as much as Cypriots can settle anywhere in the EU. Extrapolating from current trends, I sometimes wonder if the day will come when there are more British people on the island than Turkish Cypriots. If that day does come don't be surprised if you start hearing Brits questioning whether the GCs and the TCs should be the only partners to the Cyprus problem. People of working age are more dynamic and less inclined to take a back seat than retired people, and some of the Brits now moving here have young families, a factor that will make them more concerned about the long term future of this country. I think such people will increasingly demand to have a voice in what goes on here.
Please do not misunderstand me. I strongly feel that it is the business of GCs and TCs to find a settlement. I think most foreigners living here would agree with this position - now, but maybe not for ever. The clock is ticking away. There are so many different demographic changes going on that Cypriots need to pull their fingers out and find a solution that is in their interests while they are still in a position to do so.

[Nikitas]

"Typical Greek attitude. full of arrogance and ignorance. Idi Amin would be a saint compared to you lot."

It just so happens MR from NG that this exact "Typical Greek attitude" is shared by many Turkish Cypriot commentators and politicians. You think that they are like Idi Amin too? Do you think the UN charter that forbids colonization was drafted by Idi Amin?

What exactly is arrogant about the attitude NG? Not wanting to have Cyprus colonized by Anatolians? Wanting incentives to be given to Cypriots to return to the island? Cypriots of all communities, as is expressly stated in the post! What exactly irks you, that in my opinion settlers have no right to stay in Cyprus?

These are not homeless refugees, these are foreign colonizers and they have no place in Cyprus. They must be compensated and sent back where they came from. And Cypriots, who have no other place to call home, be given incentives to return.

As for some Cypriots having made a home elsewhere, sometimes a luxurious homes, so what! They were lucky or capable, that does not stop Cyprus from being their ONLY homeland. These Cypriots, regardless of ethnic background, have a RIGHT to Cyprus.

Fuck the settlers!