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[Bananiot]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines. I also would prefer, just like anyone else, to have a country that is not dependent on guarantee rights of the motherlands but I cannot see this happening and this is a compromise I am willing to accept in order to reach a solution.

The Cyprus issue belongs to the UN and the EU has no jurisdiction over it. Sometimes we behave as though we are the only people that matter and when we say Cyprus we think that only Greek speaking Cypriots exist. In fact this is exactly what got us into this mess in the first time. Even if the EU takes over and works out a solution, it will still be a compromise plan and then we would perhaps dump them and look for another organisation to adopt us. In a nutshell, the "other" side has claims too and it also deserves the attention of international institutions. The question is will we accept to compromise and share this country with our politically equal Turkish Cypriot community?

[Viewpoint]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines. I also would prefer, just like anyone else, to have a country that is not dependent on guarantee rights of the motherlands but I cannot see this happening and this is a compromise I am willing to accept in order to reach a solution.

The Cyprus issue belongs to the UN and the EU has no jurisdiction over it. Sometimes we behave as though we are the only people that matter and when we say Cyprus we think that only Greek speaking Cypriots exist. In fact this is exactly what got us into this mess in the first time. Even if the EU takes over and works out a solution, it will still be a compromise plan and then we would perhaps dump them and look for another organisation to adopt us. In a nutshell, the "other" side has claims too and it also deserves the attention of international institutions. The question is will we accept to compromise and share this country with our politically equal Turkish Cypriot community?

OHI

[humanist]

Oh well fresh new blood is always a positive thing.

[phoenix]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines. I also would prefer, just like anyone else, to have a country that is not dependent on guarantee rights of the motherlands but I cannot see this happening and this is a compromise I am willing to accept in order to reach a solution.

The Cyprus issue belongs to the UN and the EU has no jurisdiction over it. Sometimes we behave as though we are the only people that matter and when we say Cyprus we think that only Greek speaking Cypriots exist. In fact this is exactly what got us into this mess in the first time. Even if the EU takes over and works out a solution, it will still be a compromise plan and then we would perhaps dump them and look for another organisation to adopt us. In a nutshell, the "other" side has claims too and it also deserves the attention of international institutions. The question is will we accept to compromise and share this country with our politically equal Turkish Cypriot community?

I beg to differ from your view.

Equally valid is the possibility that what got us in this mess was giving the TCs a disproportionately large amount of power in the running of the country. A mistake we cannot afford to make again.

[Piratis]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines.

And we have our red lines too, and will not accept anything that is undemocratic, and against our human rights.

The question is will we accept to compromise and share this country with our politically equal Turkish Cypriot community?

Discounts can not be made when it comes to human rights and democracy. This country can be shared among equal Cypriot citizens and the members of the TC minority should be equal to every other Cypriot.

Any compromises made should be mutual and always within the limits of democracy and human rights.

Not only gifting to the Turks 1/3rd of our country where we have 3500 years of history and where we are the legal majority is unacceptable, but states based on division along ethnic lines simply do not work and they can only be a source of conflicts and instability. (even Belgium, which is much better than what is proposed for Cyprus, could collapse at any moment)

Finding a true solution to the Cyprus problem is not easy and it will not come under the current balance of power. This doesn't mean we should suicide and destroy any prospects we could have in the future and make our current situation even worst for us so Turkey, UK and TCs will get what they want.

We will wait for as long as it takes choosing the least bad option that is available today - the current status. The current status not only is the least bad current available option for us, but it is the most harmful for Turkey and TCs.

[Jerry]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines. I also would prefer, just like anyone else, to have a country that is not dependent on guarantee rights of the motherlands but I cannot see this happening and this is a compromise I am willing to accept in order to reach a solution.

The Cyprus issue belongs to the UN and the EU has no jurisdiction over it. Sometimes we behave as though we are the only people that matter and when we say Cyprus we think that only Greek speaking Cypriots exist. In fact this is exactly what got us into this mess in the first time. Even if the EU takes over and works out a solution, it will still be a compromise plan and then we would perhaps dump them and look for another organisation to adopt us. In a nutshell, the "other" side has claims too and it also deserves the attention of international institutions. The question is will we accept to compromise and share this country with our politically equal Turkish Cypriot community?

I beg to differ from your view.

Equally valid is the possibility that what got us in this mess was giving the TCs a disproportionately large amount of power in the running of the country. A mistake we cannot afford to make again.

I could not agree more. The minority descendants of a ruling imperialist power are given political equality with the majority - its a bloody joke. Where else on earth did this happen? Were the whites in South Africa given such status, or the Chinese in Malaya. The TCs were given this equality because of Turkey's bullying and Britain's pure vindictiveness towards the GCs for the EOKA campaign. Lets go back to square one, let an international tribunal decide a constitution for Cyprus, and whilst they are about it they can award all Cypriots damages against Turkey and Britain for the injustices and harm they have caused - with a bit of luck we could bankrupt both countries.

[boomerang]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines. I also would prefer, just like anyone else, to have a country that is not dependent on guarantee rights of the motherlands but I cannot see this happening and this is a compromise I am willing to accept in order to reach a solution.

The Cyprus issue belongs to the UN and the EU has no jurisdiction over it. Sometimes we behave as though we are the only people that matter and when we say Cyprus we think that only Greek speaking Cypriots exist. In fact this is exactly what got us into this mess in the first time. Even if the EU takes over and works out a solution, it will still be a compromise plan and then we would perhaps dump them and look for another organisation to adopt us. In a nutshell, the "other" side has claims too and it also deserves the attention of international institutions. The question is will we accept to compromise and share this country with our politically equal Turkish Cypriot community?

Bananiot I hear you but the way I see it is that the GCS want unity and the tcs want to legalize unity with turkey...how the hell is this gonna work?
We have made the sacrifice for a federation, what sacrifice are the tcs making?...this is the question

[MR-from-NG]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines.

And we have our red lines too, and will not accept anything that is undemocratic, and against our human rights.

The question is will we accept to compromise and share this country with our politically equal Turkish Cypriot community?

Discounts can not be made when it comes to human rights and democracy. This country can be shared among equal Cypriot citizens and the members of the TC minority should be equal to every other Cypriot.

Any compromises made should be mutual and always within the limits of democracy and human rights.

Not only gifting to the Turks 1/3rd of our country where we have 3500 years of history and where we are the legal majority is unacceptable, but states based on division along ethnic lines simply do not work and they can only be a source of conflicts and instability. (even Belgium, which is much better than what is proposed for Cyprus, could collapse at any moment)

Finding a true solution to the Cyprus problem is not easy and it will not come under the current balance of power. This doesn't mean we should suicide and destroy any prospects we could have in the future and make our current situation even worst for us so Turkey, UK and TCs will get what they want.

We will wait for as long as it takes choosing the least bad option that is available today - the current status. The current status not only is the least bad current available option for us, but it is the most harmful for Turkey and TCs.

Keep rearranging the deck-chairs on the Titanic Pissartist. Its only a matter of time for the inevitable to happen.

2008, the year of the TCs. Just wait and see. As for your change in balance of power, keep dreaming

[Viewpoint]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines. I also would prefer, just like anyone else, to have a country that is not dependent on guarantee rights of the motherlands but I cannot see this happening and this is a compromise I am willing to accept in order to reach a solution.

The Cyprus issue belongs to the UN and the EU has no jurisdiction over it. Sometimes we behave as though we are the only people that matter and when we say Cyprus we think that only Greek speaking Cypriots exist. In fact this is exactly what got us into this mess in the first time. Even if the EU takes over and works out a solution, it will still be a compromise plan and then we would perhaps dump them and look for another organisation to adopt us. In a nutshell, the "other" side has claims too and it also deserves the attention of international institutions. The question is will we accept to compromise and share this country with our politically equal Turkish Cypriot community?

Bananiot I hear you but the way I see it is that the GCS want unity and the tcs want to legalize unity with turkey...how the hell is this gonna work?
We have made the sacrifice for a federation, what sacrifice are the tcs making?...this is the question

hello just in case you missed the referendum it was you Gcs that rejected a federation solution, no one blieves you guys anymore when you claim you want a federation.

[BirKibrisli]

AS we speak (fight,regurgitate,throw tantrums,dream on etc) Turkey is pressing Talat to make another 50,000 settlers trnc citizens. Soon they will abandon any pretence that The North is run by and for the TCs...

With Islamisation of Turkey in full swing,it looks as if she will never become a member of the EU...So what solution can we expect in Cyprus when Turkey's EU dream officially ends,and when the voice of the TCs are totally silenced??? And how comfortable will the people of the ROC be with 500,000 settlers in the North? That is just to begin with...Rome is burning ,my friends...