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Help wanted to understand Cyprus history

Postby smithy » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:45 am

Help needed
I know the 1963-74 period of Cyprus history is highly controversial but I am trying to educate myself as to what happened. I have found a couple of books/reports which give details from the Turkish Cypriot perspective but being rather a skeptical fellow I assume they make selective use of quotations & references.

Can anyone point me to a detailed book/report covering this period from the Greek Cypriot perspective? By detailed I mean referring to personal experiences, newspaper reports, international commentary etc.

I have read ‘The Making of Modern Cyprus’ by Stavros Pandeli but this book cites few references.

I would be very grateful for any help you can give me.
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Postby Sega » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:52 am

If you go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Cyprus you can read up. Personally whatever you learn people will always try to argue otherwise. Some believe that Greece enabled the invation other's believe it was the British who started it. It's always better to stick to facts rather than exciting conspiracies, this way you will not offend many.

My personal experience might be complete rubbish (as everybody has their point of view) so I don't think it counts.
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Postby smithy » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:06 am

Thank you for your response Sega.
I have checked your Wikipedia reference, but it only devotes one paragraph to that period and only cites one reference.

It is the references I am really after bcause as you say, everybody has their point of view.
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Postby Sotos » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:55 am

I see www.cyprus-conflict.net mentioned a lot. I think it is also TC biased but maybe not so much as some of the Turkish propaganda crap. :?
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Re: Help wanted to understand Cyprus history

Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:04 am

smithy wrote:Help needed
I know the 1963-74 period of Cyprus history is highly controversial but I am trying to educate myself as to what happened. I have found a couple of books/reports which give details from the Turkish Cypriot perspective but being rather a skeptical fellow I assume they make selective use of quotations & references.

Can anyone point me to a detailed book/report covering this period from the Greek Cypriot perspective? By detailed I mean referring to personal experiences, newspaper reports, international commentary etc.

I have read ‘The Making of Modern Cyprus’ by Stavros Pandeli but this book cites few references.

I would be very grateful for any help you can give me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bgtVDfLydg
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Postby Piratis » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:46 am

smithy, the Turks came to Cyprus to enslave and exploit the Cypriot people. Since the time they came to our island they have killed 10s of thousands of Cypriots and for the last 400+ years each and every Cypriot generation has suffered under the Turks, something that continues until today.

There is no such thing as 1963-1974 period. If you want to refer to the period of inter-communal conflict, that period started from 1957 and ended in 1968. That was a conflict where both sides had a few 100s of casualties each.

The Turkish propagandists, in an effort to excuse their illegal and inexcusable occupation of Cyprus they do the following:

1) They present only their casualties during that conflict and blame Greek Cypriots exclusively for it, while the truth is that both sides had an about equal number of casualties, and the Turkish Cypriots where at least as responsible for igniting it.

2) They exaggerate their own suffering during that period. While that conflict was of course another sad period during the Cyprus history, it was nowhere near the bloodsheds we have experienced before and after that period when the Turks would kill 1000s and 10s of thousands of Cypriots within weeks or even days.

3) As I mentioned above, the inter-communal conflict ended in 1968, 6 whole years before the Turkish invasion. Still the Turks in their propaganda try to make it sound as if the inter-conflict was going on during 1974 and Turkey "intervened to save the TCs". What is worst, they add their about 200 casualties that they had during the war of 1974 (after Turkey invaded Cyprus) as an excuse for the invasion. And that without of course mentioning the 1000s of GC victims and 100s of under age GC girls that where raped during the invasion.

Good luck in your research about the Cyprus Problem. If what you are looking for are the roots of the problem I hope that 1963 is not your starting point though.

Cypriots have been under foreign rulers that enslaved and oppressed us for centuries. Denying to the Cypriot people their freedom and self determination so some foreigners can maintain their troops here and serve their geo-strategic interests is what the Cyprus problem is all about when you want to see the big picture instead of the details. In this thread here: http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14652 for example I show how the British colonialists and the Turks have used the TC minority of Cyprus in their divide and rule game in order for once more deny to the Cypriot people their self-determination in an era of (supposedly) decolonization and human rights.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:49 am

Bahaha i was actually waiting for it to see how long he was going to take, you have been surprisingly slow this time Piratis, whats up, did you loose your propaganda template files? :lol:
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Postby BC Numismatics » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:53 am

Shahmaran,you've got no right to be lecturing on Cypriot history,as you're a Turk scumbag as well as a nutcase!

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Postby shahmaran » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:56 am

Screw you :)
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Postby BC Numismatics » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:59 am

Shahmaran,go & wank yourself!

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