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Postby boomerang » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:23 am

oh...a combo...go & wank yourself...one point given...

added...go & wank yourself

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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:56 am

Have you read "The Cyprus Conspiracy" by Brendan O'Malley and Ian Craig? This book focuses on explaining the events behind the 1974 Turkish invasion and de-facto partition of the island. Its main thesis is that these events were personally orchestrated by Henry Kissinger, and that the main concern of the Western alliance ever since, to quote the title of chapter ten "A Sham Independence: The Unsinkable Aircraft Carrier", has always been to maintain the strategically important British bases and monitoring stations on the island, regardless of the cost to the Cypriot people.
The best books I have ever read on the Cyprus problem have been those by the Turkish Cypriot academic Niyazi Kızılyürek. In case you imagine that his writing promotes the official puppet regime propaganda line, you should realise that he was expelled from the north of Cyprus in the days when Denktash was in charge for refusing to toe the line and he is employed by the University of Cyprus in the RoC. He is also perfectly bilingual in Turkish and Greek, and has written quite a few books in Greek. I believe that an English translation of his book with the Turkish title "Milliyetçilik Kıskacında Kıbrıs" is expected to be published in 2008, and I strongly recommend that you look out for this, although its scope goes way beyond 1963-1974. There are four main chapters in this book. The first looks at the development of modern Greek nationalism. The second looks at how this ideology was transposed to Cyprus and the effect it had on political developments in the Greek Cypriot community as it became acquainted with modernity and developed a sense of national identity. In chapters three and four he does the same for Turkey and then the Turkish Cypriot community. I feel that this is a tremendously evenly balanced book whose main thesis is that the sense of national identity promoted by the respective motherlands on the island tore the two communities apart and led to the tragedy that played itself out in the period you mention.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:04 pm

Professor Niyazi Kızılyürek is a Cypriot's source of pride. I love it when when he appears on Greek (mainland) television interviews. His Greek is superior to the mainlanders' and you can see the surprise and embarassment register on their faces when this Cypriot, who is a TC to boot, can run circles around them both linguistically and intellectually. He is what I imagine a Cypriot president should be, at ease with all cultures of the island and a benign patriot.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:20 pm

Nikitas wrote:Professor Niyazi Kızılyürek is a Cypriot's source of pride. I love it when when he appears on Greek (mainland) television interviews. His Greek is superior to the mainlanders' and you can see the surprise and embarassment register on their faces when this Cypriot, who is a TC to boot, can run circles around them both linguistically and intellectually. He is what I imagine a Cypriot president should be, at ease with all cultures of the island and a benign patriot.


I had heard that he can switch with ease from Cypriot Greek to Athenian Greek and back. I cannot be the judge of this but I am happy that you are able to confirm that it is true. He is also perfectly at ease in Cypriot Turkish and mainland Turkish, and fluent in several European languages to boot!
Is there something special about the village of Potamia where he was born? Quite a few TCs refused to leave this village in 1974 and it is now home to the bi-lingual Radio Potamia which aims to reach listeners on both sides of the divide.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:23 pm

I think, but I am not sure, that Sener Levent also comes from Potamia. The village does seem to have a stronger cohesion than most, and this was mentioned by the director of the new radio station too on an interview.
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Postby halil » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:28 pm

The Cyprus Question
By Michael Stephen
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Postby Piratis » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:41 pm

halil wrote:The Cyprus Question
By Michael Stephen


Michael Stephen is a Turkish paid propagandist. He even uses the Turkish terms such as "Greek Cypriot Administration" instead o Republic of Cyprus.

The aim of his propaganda book about Cyprus is not to examine the historical facts, but to excuse the occupation of our country by Turkey by presenting half-truths, gross exaggerations and outright lies.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:44 pm

halil wrote:The Cyprus Question
By Michael Stephen

Halil has finally "discovered" the paid propagandist Michael Stephen!

Got yourself a new hero Halil? One that says things the way you want to hear them? :lol: He has been paid to please you so I guess he's doing a god job.
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Postby smithy » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:14 pm

Sotos - Many thanks for that reference. I have only had time for a quick look but it seems to be the sort of thing I was looking for. As I said, everyone has their own opinion on this period but I am hoping that by looking up any independent references I can find I shall get nearer the truth.

Mr-from-NG - I've still got to check out youtube - I need a log on etc!

Piratis - You said:
3) And that without of course mentioning the 1000s of GC victims and 100s of under age GC girls that where raped during the invasion.


Where could I check these figures please? Where did you get your information from?
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Postby Piratis » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:48 pm

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