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1000 TCs protest at Pergamos checkpoing

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:56 pm

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boomerang wrote:What about turks against Turkish Cypriots?...I bet turks win here too...now on your knees and prove to me your turkishness... :lol:


Stick with your current mindset and you are always doomed to be second to Turks.


You mean like the tcs?...no thanks...this is why we rejected the Annan plan...we don't want to be doomed to be second to the turks... :lol:


Unless you buck up your ideas then you are and will always be second to Turks when it comes to cooperation with TCs and trying to build a united Cyprus. You must have realized this by now, as you Gcs try to run Turkey inot the the ground but TCs prefer to stick with Turkey rather than accept GC style democracy and human rights, must be very demoralizing being second to people you hate do much.


VP if your tea supplies are not embargoed . . . go and have a cup of tea and you will feel much better.

We are not just second to Turkey we are about 102nd ..... Turkey will always have first prize, first place in worst Human Rights records.


So? you are still second to what you wish to make is the worst country/people in the world, how does that feel and what do you think it should be telling you?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:59 pm

humanist wrote:unlike our friend Miltiades I hold no respect for the EU they will do absolutely nothing. It serves them well to to have the Cypro how else will they cover up the fact they want no Turkey in EU.

VP keep trying these tactics and we'll see what happens. I don't expect people after 33 years of imprisonment to head to the south give them 5 - 10 and we'll see though. Am feeling lucky not to mention confident.


So if what you expect does not materialize in 10 years time will you accept your were wrong or make excuses just like other GCs, who have made an art of always blaming everyone else but themselves?

As I know my own people I am very confident as well, they feel just as strongly as GCs who do not want live in the TRNC and refuse living in a GC state under pure GC rule, did you know this?
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Postby utu » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:02 pm

Viewpoint, you're bashing your head up against the same brick wall that expatkiwi has been hitting. This forum is not a debate area. It is basically an abuse hurler. I've advised expatkiwi to no longer make posts as all it is doing is to expose him to some pretty nasty stuff from various members who have the same amount of moral integrity as a sack of wet sand.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:10 pm

utu wrote:Viewpoint, you're bashing your head up against the same brick wall that expatkiwi has been hitting. This forum is not a debate area. It is basically an abuse hurler. I've advised expatkiwi to no longer make posts as all it is doing is to expose him to some pretty nasty stuff from various members who have the same amount of moral integrity as a sack of wet sand.


utu thanks for the warning but I have been through the GC abuse barrier and refuse to shut up as that is what they want, TCs have to make their voices heard, there are 2 sides to this story and we need to be heard. You have witnessed the basic and naive tactic of GCs they hurl abuse and as soon as you return the same or even stronger they cry that you are the worst person about and try to defame your character thus discrediting your arguments. Well people will not fall for these tricks and just as in 1963 and 1974 if you play with a bomb and it explodes you do not blame the bomb for exploding but the person who ignored all the warning signs and continued to play with the bomb regardless. The GCs always blame the bomb, you can easily work out the mentality we face in trying to get them to understand our viewpoint.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:13 pm

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boomerang wrote:What about turks against Turkish Cypriots?...I bet turks win here too...now on your knees and prove to me your turkishness... :lol:


Stick with your current mindset and you are always doomed to be second to Turks.


You mean like the tcs?...no thanks...this is why we rejected the Annan plan...we don't want to be doomed to be second to the turks... :lol:


Unless you buck up your ideas then you are and will always be second to Turks when it comes to cooperation with TCs and trying to build a united Cyprus. You must have realized this by now, as you Gcs try to run Turkey inot the the ground but TCs prefer to stick with Turkey rather than accept GC style democracy and human rights, must be very demoralizing being second to people you hate do much.


Really?... is that what the last poll showed where the settlers hold your future in their hands? second best? hmmm interesting...

Just for the record and very very saddly you the tcs are quickly becoming reduntant in the day to day of becoming masters of your own domain, and you sit there and gloat about it...you and people like you one day you all will stand accountable as to why there won't be any tc community left....But to you is all about jealousy isn't...this shows to everyone how a sick mine works...

I recommend the tcs start coming up with a plan in order to save themselves from extinction and stop the crap we are all turks...The sooner you guys realise it the sooned you will become a master in your domain in a federal system that will serve the needs of all the people...


We do not discriminate, once they are TRNC citizens they are our people, why do you find it so hard to understand?
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Postby eracles » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:20 pm

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We do not discriminate, once they are TRNC citizens they are our people, why do you find it so hard to understand?


Not difficult to understand,especially when you have no choice in the matter.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:23 pm

Nikitas wrote:The purpose of the posting was not to cause anyone to repent, I am definitely not into religious fits!

The interesting point was that this was not organized, it was a spontaneous burst of anger by many people, in one place and the fact that it turned into an unplanned protest is significant. The spontaneous nature of the event shows that people have had enough of this nationalist bullshit they are being fed every day, especially when the crap gets in the way of important things like going to work to make a living.

It was also interesting to see that it that the regime took the event seriously enough to send a minister to apologise.

I did not include some of the quotations from the Politis news report. But people at the check point were shouting for the EU to send monitors who will do serious monitoring of what is happening in the north. Others were protesting having to show their ID cards every time they cross the check points. These are signs that the TCs are not all that keen on separation, contrary to what VP and others say in this forum. And it is obvious why- it is dumb to have international frontiers to separate people who a) feel they are Cypriots b)need to move about to do their business over the whole island and c) because it is ridiculous to do such fancy ass stuff in an island which is 60 by 150 miles.

In the end it seems that the need for a job and the growth of "institutions" like IKEA and Carrefour are going to do more for unification than a thousand graduates in political science.

If we were clever and agile thinkers we should start a campaign, somethling like "buy from a TC today" in the south to support the small traders who come to the RoC every day to sell their wares. It might sound funny , but buying from these people is practical "confidence building measures" that far outweigh the crap that goes on behind closed doors followed by cryptic remarks made by small minded politicians to even smaller minded press guys.

The VAT returns from these small traders are also valid EU aproved statistics of how the economy is beginning to unify. and so gives the lie to the "isolation" song many like to sing.


People travel from one country to another in search of work, this is normal doesnt mean they are supporters of that country, all they want is the money to bring home to their famalies in the TRNC just like anywhere else in the world, wouldnt read to much into it, its called cheap labour.

As for buying gods from the TRNC, you are kidding arent you this has been tired and no GC firm would survive if they purchased good from the north, the green line regulations are in place the figures for purchases are a joke a total failure as GCs will not buy from TC producers, history repeats itself.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:26 pm

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We do not discriminate, once they are TRNC citizens they are our people, why do you find it so hard to understand?


Not difficult to understand,especially when you have no choice in the matter.


They are the part of the mosiac of the North as once upon a time it was with GCs and TCs, 1974 and GC intrangience has changed that forever. You appear more concerned than us I wonder why? can you clarify?
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Postby phoenix » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:40 pm

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We do not discriminate, once they are TRNC citizens they are our people, why do you find it so hard to understand?


Not difficult to understand,especially when you have no choice in the matter.


They are the part of the mosiac of the North as once upon a time it was with GCs and TCs, 1974 and GC intrangience has changed that forever. You appear more concerned than us I wonder why? can you clarify?


I'll have a go . . .

Because the barbaric Turks are once again invading our country . . . a slow erosion of our population to add to the long list of savage invasions.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:22 pm

phoenix wrote:
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We do not discriminate, once they are TRNC citizens they are our people, why do you find it so hard to understand?


Not difficult to understand,especially when you have no choice in the matter.


They are the part of the mosiac of the North as once upon a time it was with GCs and TCs, 1974 and GC intrangience has changed that forever. You appear more concerned than us I wonder why? can you clarify?


I'll have a go . . .

Because the barbaric Turks are once again invading our country . . . a slow erosion of our population to add to the long list of savage invasions.


They are not doing anything to your people, the Russians and Pontians are doing a good enough job in the Gc state "RoC" you dont need Turks.
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