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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:18 am

boomerang wrote:I see comprehension ain't part of your forte as well :lol: ...What other ramblings have you got in that empty head of yours? :lol: ...suprise us all and say something intelligent :lol:


Play ground tactics yet again, grow up.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:30 am

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I've been to the RoC and lived to see another sunrise and sunset over the horizon, so the "doom and gloom" of this statement "There would be bloodshed within 24 hours. God give strength to Turkey and its troops" does not hold true for me nor to thousands that cross to the South on daily basis.

Perhaps Turkish Troops are also stationed in the South is the reason why so many TC's brave the prospect of being "butchered" by the "evil GC's".

Why would any TC would want to go and live in the South when most have been given GC land towards their property in the South, all the while they still retain ownership of their own property there. Talk about corrupting the people by their own "government" to do the wrong thing, and also lets not forget the brainwashing by Denktash and all the partitonist that they will be "butchered" by those "evil GC's". I'm glad they are not moving to the South, so that we don't have more settlers to replace them from Turkey, which will make matters worse than they already are.


Yes we are all aware you have been to the GC state.

How do you know there would not be blood shed with the Turkish Army gone? and only the GC army here to "protect" us?

Without the divide do you think these people who cross south and provide cheap labour but return home every night would be safe? If anything happened who would they blame? there would be no TC escape goat to blame like in the past and with the EU breathing down their necks its very unlikely they would want be seen as murderers.
Mixed it would be easy to blame everyone else but the real culprits.

Life goes on and many TCs do not believe we will ever unite or solve this problem so they have traded up their land for land in the north and realize they will never get their land in the south. They are right in their line of thought as GCs do not want a solution they have what they want a GC state run by GCs for GCs, all they want is more land. Tcs do not want to live in a GC state run purely by GCs so no worries they will stay north of the divide.
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Postby phoenix » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:39 am

boomerang wrote:I see comprehension ain't part of your forte as well :lol: ...What other ramblings have you got in that empty head of yours? :lol: ...suprise us all and say something intelligent :lol:


Boom, why is VP so unintelligeble tonight, more so than usual that is. :?

He's almost a different person . . . is it the night shift filling in? :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:23 am

Viewpoint wrote:
boomerang wrote:I see comprehension ain't part of your forte as well :lol: ...What other ramblings have you got in that empty head of yours? :lol: ...suprise us all and say something intelligent :lol:


Play ground tactics yet again, grow up.


No intelligence and not surpriced...Just as I thought, not much :lol:
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Postby mowman » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:02 am

Thanks for a straightforward reply Pheonix, you said

"By extrapolation therefore, the whole island will potentially become as wealthy as the south is, and worthy of the title free which the north at the moment is NOT.

The RoC will oversee the exchanges of land and homes to the owners / inheritors from1974.

All citizens will have the right to vote in the RoC in its present state. Candidates for all government positions can be put up for election from the pool of citizens"

Just a few simple comments


Do the TC population not feel free now?

Will the TC population feel content to have land and home exchanges overseen by ROC officials who they MAY feel have a particular agenda?

One man one vote is ok in principle but voting is likely to be along GC/TC lines and this almost always leads to problems for the "minority " community .This was always a big problem in N. Ireland in the past.

I am starting to realise just what a problem this is for all of you in beautiful Cyprus.

thanks and cu later
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Postby phoenix » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:40 am

mowman wrote:Thanks for a straightforward reply Pheonix
Just a few simple comments
Do the TC population not feel free now?

Being "free" and feeling "free" are two different conditions. As to whether they feel free, that is neither here nor there, being a Human condition subject to individual experiences.

But being "free" . . . . they most certainly are not.

They are governed by a fascist Muslim government that they did not vote into power. They have isolated themselves into an illegally occupied part of the country.
(Actually this may affect their state of mind too, making them feel less free as sentient beings.)
mow wrote:Will the TC population feel content to have land and home exchanges overseen by ROC officials who they MAY feel have a particular agenda?

Well somebody has to oversee so why not their democratically elected government which is guided by International Law and EU Laws ?
mow wrote:One man one vote is ok in principle but voting is likely to be along GC/TC lines and this almost always leads to problems for the "minority " community .This was always a big problem in N. Ireland in the past.

This is the preferred set-up for all modern, civilised countries so why develop a whole new way of electing just to please one small group of people?
mow wrote:I am starting to realise just what a problem this is for all of you in beautiful Cyprus.
thanks and cu later

Well now is the chance to share your perception . . . unless it was preformed and you were just playing "round-the-houses" with me? :roll:
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Postby utu » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:48 am

Well now is the chance to share your perception . . . unless it was preformed and you were just playing "round-the-houses" with me?


What kind of game are you playing on this forum, Phoenix? Is it a dog and pony show to cover up your true intentions towards the people in the north? And I'm not referring to the Turkish military or the Anatolian settlers. I agree with you that their presence is both unethical and illegal. I'm referring to the Turkish Cypriot themselves. Do you truly regard them as your fellow countrymen?
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Postby phoenix » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:54 am

utu wrote:
Well now is the chance to share your perception . . . unless it was preformed and you were just playing "round-the-houses" with me?


What kind of game are you playing on this forum, Phoenix? Is it a dog and pony show to cover up your true intentions towards the people in the north? And I'm not referring to the Turkish military or the Anatolian settlers. I agree with you that their presence is both unethical and illegal. I'm referring to the Turkish Cypriot themselves. Do you truly regard them as your fellow countrymen?


And who are you to question me?

What games are you playing on this forum?

At least I am here because I have a personal vested interest in the Cyprus problem.
Why does it concern you? I would never join a Canadian / Kiwi forum to piss off the natives there, for no apparent reason.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:02 am

phoenix wrote:
utu wrote:
Well now is the chance to share your perception . . . unless it was preformed and you were just playing "round-the-houses" with me?


What kind of game are you playing on this forum, Phoenix? Is it a dog and pony show to cover up your true intentions towards the people in the north? And I'm not referring to the Turkish military or the Anatolian settlers. I agree with you that their presence is both unethical and illegal. I'm referring to the Turkish Cypriot themselves. Do you truly regard them as your fellow countrymen?


And who are you to question me?

What games are you playing on this forum?

At least I am here because I have a personal vested interest in the Cyprus problem.
Why does it concern you? I would never join a Canadian / Kiwi forum to piss off the natives there, for no apparent reason.


She does it again, avoids the question typical Phoenix style, hey miss frigidair this is a public forum everyone has the right to ask questions, you choose to avoid them as you do not want to expose your racists views towards TCs and Turks and that you support the old enosis dream of turning Cyprus into a Greek island.
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Postby phoenix » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:08 am

Viewpoint wrote:
phoenix wrote:
utu wrote:
Well now is the chance to share your perception . . . unless it was preformed and you were just playing "round-the-houses" with me?


What kind of game are you playing on this forum, Phoenix? Is it a dog and pony show to cover up your true intentions towards the people in the north? And I'm not referring to the Turkish military or the Anatolian settlers. I agree with you that their presence is both unethical and illegal. I'm referring to the Turkish Cypriot themselves. Do you truly regard them as your fellow countrymen?


And who are you to question me?

What games are you playing on this forum?

At least I am here because I have a personal vested interest in the Cyprus problem.
Why does it concern you? I would never join a Canadian / Kiwi forum to piss off the natives there, for no apparent reason.


She does it again, avoids the question typical Phoenix style, hey miss frigidair this is a public forum everyone has the right to ask questions, you choose to avoid them as you do not want to expose your racists views towards TCs and Turks and that you support the old enosis dream of turning Cyprus into a Greek island.


You have done it again . . . you ran off when asked a direct question (still unanswered VP) and you always butt into somebody else's exchanges!

Are you not tired of me answering the same questions relating to you barbaric Turks? Do you love hearing how vile and deranged you appear to the World as you rape, pillage, invade and occupy neighbouring lands by force?

Do you need reminding so that you can sleep with a smile on your face, content that you are the most hated people in the history of mankind?
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