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Postby phoenix » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:54 pm

BC Numismatics wrote:Phoenix,being of Scots descent,I come from a very fiercely anti-Irish family.My family were nominally Romish Catholic until they saw the light.The Pope of Rome's cult has caused nothing but trouble,especially in both countries on the isle of Ireland.Roman Catholicism is hated by me,because of its association with republicanism,especially that practiced by Sinn Fein/I.R.A. - ethnic cleansing of the isle of Ireland of its Protestant & Jewish population.

I can understand why the Cypriot people resent both Greece & Turkey.Both of these countries have stuck their nose into Cyprus's internal affairs for far too long.The British Commonwealth owes the people of Cyprus a lot.I don't agree with the New Zealand Government maintaining relations with the regime up in Wankara,especially around the time of Anzac Day (25th. of April).A lot of Aussies & New Zealanders attend services at both Anzac Cove & Gallipoli.

I wonder how many British Commonwealth countries,apart from the U.K.,have a High Commission in Nicosia.

Aidan.



BCN you are a product of the evils of ALL religions, and the way they contaminate the minds of the young to hate for NO reason, other than that some people believe in a slightly different fantasy.

Also you are now doing down the Scots. My husband is Scottish and is very Liberal. His great uncle died fighting for peace in Gallipoli. It serves as a reminder of yet more Turkish atrocities, siding with Germany at the time.
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Postby phoenix » Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:58 pm

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BC Numismatics wrote:Phoenix,there are 3 Muslim-majority countries that do qualify for membership of the E.U.,& they are all located in Europe - Albania,Bosnia-Hercegovina,& Kosovo.

Aidan.


BCN, thank you but I don't object to / classify countries according to their religion. :roll:

I am not a bigot . . . I only hate Turkey because the Turkish Army tried to kill me when I was 5 years old, succeeded in killing thousands of my relatives, invaded and destroyed tranquility in my country . . . . and have reproduced this pattern many times with other Nations.

Other than Turks . . . I love the World and its people (would rather the Chinese gave Tibet back, too . . . Hey, there must be something about that part of the World that spawns the likes of Turk / Huns :roll: ).


Sorry to hear about the life threatening experience you had at the age of 5 at the hands of the Turkish army but shouldn't you be blaming those that allowed them the opportunity to come to Cyprus? You question the end result without thinking why it happened?

Now we all understand why you are such a Turk hater and why you are so biased, this will help us understand your posts better in future and why we can never hope to agree anything with anyone who has been mentally effected by actions in the past.


No Cypriots EVER asked the Turks to invade Cyprus, not the first, nor the second nor the third time. There are NO excuses for their presence on Cyprus, that are valid. No Cypriot wants them on Cyprus. Only Turk-TCs.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:02 pm

Phoenix,I AM of Scots descent,but I am also of Norse descent,as my great-grandfather on my father's side came out to New Zealand from the Orkney Islands.Nothing will ever change the fact that I am fiercely pro-English anyway! I am also both a Unionist & a British Commonwealth nationalist as well as being a fierce Royalist.

Coming from New Zealand,I have no time for either the republicans & their racist pals,the Maori Nationalists,because they're scum of the earth who have been allowed to get away with promoting their Britanniphobic policies.To me,the only good republican & the only good Maori Nationalist is a dead one - one that has been shot,blown up,or given the Saddam Hussein treatment! I have Maori friends who understand where I am coming from.

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Postby GreekForumer » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:03 pm

observer wrote:It has been pointed out that there are no similar monuments to the Anzac forces who went to help Greece in 1941.


Has it been pointed out that Australian newspapers NEVER mention the Armenian Genocide on the day before Anzac day ?

Why is the Armenian Genocide commemorated on April 24?

On the night of April 24, 1915, the Turkish government placed under
arrest over 200 Armenian community leaders in Constantinople. Hundreds
more were apprehended soon after. They were all sent to prison in the
interior of Anatolia, where most were summarily executed. The Young
Turk regime had long been planning the Armenian Genocide and reports of
atrocities being committed against the Armenians in the eastern war
zones had been filtering in during the first months of 1915. The
Ministry of War had already acted on the government's plan by disarming
the Armenian recruits in the Ottoman Army, reducing them to labor
battalions and working them under conditions equaling slavery. The
incapacitation and methodic reduction of the Armenian male population,
as well as the summary arrest and execution of the Armenian leadership
marked the earliest stages of the Armenian Genocide. These acts were
committed under the cover of a news blackout on account of the war and
the government proceeded to implement its plans to liquidate the
Armenian population with secrecy. Therefore, the Young Turks regime's
true intentions went undetected until the arrests of April 24. As the
persons seized that night included the most prominent public figures of
the Armenian community in the capital city of the Ottoman Empire,
everyone was alerted about the dimensions of the policies being
entertained and implemented by the Turkish government. Their death
presaged the murder of an ancient civilization. April 24 is, therefore,
commemorated as the date of the unfolding of the Armenian Genocide.

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It is clear from what is written above, the Australians and New Zealanders did not invade but attempted to come ashore for a "peace operation". Unfortunately for those hundreds of thousands of Armenian women and children, the ANZACS were not successful.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:05 pm

phoenix wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
phoenix wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Phoenix,there are 3 Muslim-majority countries that do qualify for membership of the E.U.,& they are all located in Europe - Albania,Bosnia-Hercegovina,& Kosovo.

Aidan.


BCN, thank you but I don't object to / classify countries according to their religion. :roll:

I am not a bigot . . . I only hate Turkey because the Turkish Army tried to kill me when I was 5 years old, succeeded in killing thousands of my relatives, invaded and destroyed tranquility in my country . . . . and have reproduced this pattern many times with other Nations.

Other than Turks . . . I love the World and its people (would rather the Chinese gave Tibet back, too . . . Hey, there must be something about that part of the World that spawns the likes of Turk / Huns :roll: ).


Sorry to hear about the life threatening experience you had at the age of 5 at the hands of the Turkish army but shouldn't you be blaming those that allowed them the opportunity to come to Cyprus? You question the end result without thinking why it happened?

Now we all understand why you are such a Turk hater and why you are so biased, this will help us understand your posts better in future and why we can never hope to agree anything with anyone who has been mentally effected by actions in the past.


No Cypriots EVER asked the Turks to invade Cyprus, not the first, nor the second nor the third time. There are NO excuses for their presence on Cyprus, that are valid. No Cypriot wants them on Cyprus. Only Turk-TCs.


If labels help you alleviate some of the pain all well and good but you have to come to terms with the fact that your own actions in the past and even today opened the pathway towards and maintain division, you sparked the match which caused the explosion, you cannot then cry why was there a solution and why did I get hurt, you should not have struck the match.

The Cypriotism crap does not cut water with TCs as this is just a ploy yo entice TCs into a a sea of GCs where you can manipulate and dominate those stupid TCs who wish to take that decision.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:06 pm

GreekForumer,that is one reason why I hold strong objections to New Zealand having any ties with Turkey.Turkey is almost as racist as the Republic of Ireland is,yet more people know about the Turkish genocide campaigns though.

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Postby boomerang » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
phoenix wrote:
BC Numismatics wrote:Phoenix,there are 3 Muslim-majority countries that do qualify for membership of the E.U.,& they are all located in Europe - Albania,Bosnia-Hercegovina,& Kosovo.

Aidan.


BCN, thank you but I don't object to / classify countries according to their religion. :roll:

I am not a bigot . . . I only hate Turkey because the Turkish Army tried to kill me when I was 5 years old, succeeded in killing thousands of my relatives, invaded and destroyed tranquility in my country . . . . and have reproduced this pattern many times with other Nations.

Other than Turks . . . I love the World and its people (would rather the Chinese gave Tibet back, too . . . Hey, there must be something about that part of the World that spawns the likes of Turk / Huns :roll: ).


Sorry to hear about the life threatening experience you had at the age of 5 at the hands of the Turkish army but shouldn't you be blaming those that allowed them the opportunity to come to Cyprus? You question the end result without thinking why it happened?

Now we all understand why you are such a Turk hater and why you are so biased, this will help us understand your posts better in future and why we can never hope to agree anything with anyone who has been mentally effected by actions in the past.


No Cypriots EVER asked the Turks to invade Cyprus, not the first, nor the second nor the third time. There are NO excuses for their presence on Cyprus, that are valid. No Cypriot wants them on Cyprus. Only Turk-TCs.


If labels help you alleviate some of the pain all well and good but you have to come to terms with the fact that your own actions in the past and even today opened the pathway towards and maintain division, you sparked the match which caused the explosion, you cannot then cry why was there a solution and why did I get hurt, you should not have struck the match.

The Cypriotism crap does not cut water with TCs as this is just a ploy yo entice TCs into a a sea of GCs where you can manipulate and dominate those stupid TCs who wish to take that decision.


when you say
not cut water with TCs

are you taking into account the recent poll where the settlers, such as your self, decided the future of the Tcs?
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Postby kafenes » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:09 pm

GreekForumer wrote:
observer wrote:It has been pointed out that there are no similar monuments to the Anzac forces who went to help Greece in 1941.


Has it been pointed out that Australian newspapers NEVER mention the Armenian Genocide on the day before Anzac day ?

Why is the Armenian Genocide commemorated on April 24?

On the night of April 24, 1915, the Turkish government placed under
arrest over 200 Armenian community leaders in Constantinople. Hundreds
more were apprehended soon after. They were all sent to prison in the
interior of Anatolia, where most were summarily executed. The Young
Turk regime had long been planning the Armenian Genocide and reports of
atrocities being committed against the Armenians in the eastern war
zones had been filtering in during the first months of 1915. The
Ministry of War had already acted on the government's plan by disarming
the Armenian recruits in the Ottoman Army, reducing them to labor
battalions and working them under conditions equaling slavery. The
incapacitation and methodic reduction of the Armenian male population,
as well as the summary arrest and execution of the Armenian leadership
marked the earliest stages of the Armenian Genocide. These acts were
committed under the cover of a news blackout on account of the war and
the government proceeded to implement its plans to liquidate the
Armenian population with secrecy. Therefore, the Young Turks regime's
true intentions went undetected until the arrests of April 24. As the
persons seized that night included the most prominent public figures of
the Armenian community in the capital city of the Ottoman Empire,
everyone was alerted about the dimensions of the policies being
entertained and implemented by the Turkish government. Their death
presaged the murder of an ancient civilization. April 24 is, therefore,
commemorated as the date of the unfolding of the Armenian Genocide.

Link


It is clear from what is written above, the Australians and New Zealanders did not invade but attempted to come ashore for a "peace operation". Unfortunately for those hundreds of thousands of Armenian women and children, the ANZACS were not successful.


I always had the impression that the Australians and the New Zealanders were used as decoys (at cost of there lives) for the British to invade Turkey without resistance.
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Postby GreekForumer » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:10 pm

BC Numismatics wrote:GreekForumer,that is one reason why I hold strong objections to New Zealand having any ties with Turkey.Turkey is almost as racist as the Republic of Ireland is,yet more people know about the Turkish genocide campaigns though.

Aidan.


BC, Do NZ papers mention the Armenian Genocide commemorations on April 24th ?
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Postby BC Numismatics » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:12 pm

Kafenes,do you agree with me that Turkey is almost as racist as the Republic of Ireland is?

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