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One in fifteen GC high school students now studying Turkish

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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:19 pm

zan wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Isnt Turkish an official language of south Cyprus?


Not anymore mate...Another unofficial change to the Zurich agreement that makes the "RoC" illegal in concept...


Sorry to correct you there, but I applied for my RoC identity card using an application form printed in Turkish which I filled out in Turkish and returned, and which was then duly processed.
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:23 pm

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zan wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Isnt Turkish an official language of south Cyprus?


Not anymore mate...Another unofficial change to the Zurich agreement that makes the "RoC" illegal in concept...


Sorry to correct you there, but I applied for my RoC identity card using an application form printed in Turkish which I filled out in Turkish and returned, and which was then duly processed.


And if you had filled it in Chinese would they accept that too..... :?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:24 pm

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kafenes wrote:In the ROC, most government clerical jobs require the knowledge of the Turkish language. Students studying Turkish know they have a better chance getting a government job.


Exactly...they are learning Turkish for the advantage it has over any other language when it comes to applying for government jobs....Not from their love to Turkish Cypriots or Turkish language.. :wink:
No matter how much you hardliners like to deny the fact that Turkish is one of the two official languages of ROC the government acknowledges this fact hence prefers to employ citizens who can speak Turkish as well as Greek...


And then they will tell us that we are less qualified for the jobs so we do not deserve them......Now where did I hear that sort of thing before.......Hmmmmmm! Let me think.



Now I am beginning to see more clearly now. :lol: I just realised after Icemans/Kafenes comment, that the GCs are learning Turkish with the sole aim of keeping any TCs out of 'possible' goverment posts. Greeks and gifts...........

Dastardly behaiviour, I'd say :lol:
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:26 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
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kafenes wrote:In the ROC, most government clerical jobs require the knowledge of the Turkish language. Students studying Turkish know they have a better chance getting a government job.


Exactly...they are learning Turkish for the advantage it has over any other language when it comes to applying for government jobs....Not from their love to Turkish Cypriots or Turkish language.. :wink:
No matter how much you hardliners like to deny the fact that Turkish is one of the two official languages of ROC the government acknowledges this fact hence prefers to employ citizens who can speak Turkish as well as Greek...


And then they will tell us that we are less qualified for the jobs so we do not deserve them......Now where did I hear that sort of thing before.......Hmmmmmm! Let me think.



Now I am beginning to see more clearly now. :lol: I just realised after Icemans/Kafenes comment, that the GCs are learning Turkish with the sole aim of keeping any TCs out of 'possible' goverment posts. Greeks and gifts...........

Dastardly behaiviour, I'd say :lol:


Are you a Cypriot or not??? :lol: You have to learn to think like Tpap in order to work anything out in this situation.... :wink: :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:26 pm

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Get Real! wrote:On a different note, Iceman, Zan, VP, Murataga, and the rest get your sonneti kits please... I'm ready and I want ther FULL-Monty! :lol:



Ready and waiting...Just need to go out and buy a 10 X magnifier and I am done...... :wink:

:oops: Err... make that a 20x
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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:27 pm

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Isnt Turkish an official language of south Cyprus?


Not anymore mate...Another unofficial change to the Zurich agreement that makes the "RoC" illegal in concept...


Sorry to correct you there, but I applied for my RoC identity card using an application form printed in Turkish which I filled out in Turkish and returned, and which was then duly processed.


And if you had filled it in Chinese would they accept that too..... :?


No, you can apply in either of the official languages of the RoC. If you enter the district office in Limassol you will see the piles of forms on a table to your left, and these are available in both Greek and Turkish. If this does not mean that Turkish is de-facto an official language of the Roc, then what does it show?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:28 pm

zan wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:Trust Zan to look for the cynical explanation!

Spanish and Italian, being Romance langaguags with straightforward grammar, and easy pronunication would have been my choice as a lazy student. Economically too they would be more beneficial as official languages ot eh EU. Spanish especially would be the more valuable one.


Turkish is an easy language to learn the basics in Nikitas and early exam levels would be easy too. Even I could possibly pass them. :lol: AND then........Turkish in the EU would be much more useful in the future.... :wink: :wink: :wink:

I was only stating the mind of lazy students as you say and nothing else in this.....Soft options seem to be the way they go except for the most prepared of students. For them, whether Turkey and the TRNC get into the EU or not it would make sense to have that qualification for linking two worlds together.......Greeks do plan well ahead :wink: :wink:



Personally I dont think these Cypriot students took Turkish as an easier option. Mind you learning Turkish is far easier than the other languages mentioned. As long as you learn the alphabet, there is no beating a phonetic Language. That aside, I have admiration for the students, or parents and teachers who had the foresight to encourage these students to learn the language of other Cypriots.
I hope this action is reciprocated in the north. Maybe it will wipe the shameful act of removing 'Greek' from the syllabus at the secondary schools in the early 1960's.



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In the ROC, most government clerical jobs require the knowledge of the Turkish language. Students studying Turkish know they have a better chance getting a government job.



I do try to be optimistic Deniz..Honestly I do but practicalities of a competitive age always knock me for six. The decision making along the lines of education from a parents point of view is what I am very much involved in at the moment and the views I hear are very disturbing sometimes. Maybe I have had a sheltered upbringing but the dog that wants to eat this dog seems to have much bigger teeth.....


Dont panic Zan. The GCs keepshooting themselves in the foot. They are not that clever.
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:28 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:On a different note, Iceman, Zan, VP, Murataga, and the rest get your sonneti kits please... I'm ready and I want ther FULL-Monty! :lol:



Ready and waiting...Just need to go out and buy a 10 X magnifier and I am done...... :wink:

:oops: Err... make that a 20x


WOW! :shock: I think I will have to invest in a laser then......Do you want your eyes done at the same time???? 8)
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:31 pm

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:On a different note, Iceman, Zan, VP, Murataga, and the rest get your sonneti kits please... I'm ready and I want ther FULL-Monty! :lol:



Ready and waiting...Just need to go out and buy a 10 X magnifier and I am done...... :wink:

:oops: Err... make that a 20x


WOW! :shock: I think I will have to invest in a laser then......Do you want your eyes done at the same time???? 8)

No, but I could do with a pair of breasts!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyway people I gotta go again... catch you later.
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Postby halil » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:01 pm

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:On a different note, Iceman, Zan, VP, Murataga, and the rest get your sonneti kits please... I'm ready and I want ther FULL-Monty! :lol:



Ready and waiting...Just need to go out and buy a 10 X magnifier and I am done...... :wink:

:oops: Err... make that a 20x


GR,
what is the differences between u and them ?
you are all in same basket. :lol: :lol: :lol:
nah nah nah
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