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[phoenix]

The only reason I would learn Turkish was to see if I could get gain some insight into why Turks think they do.
Maybe communicating to them in Turkish may FINALLY make them understand the things they fail to appreciate in Greek or English.

Perhaps words like Genocide, atrocities, illegalities etc. may ring home when translated to Turkish

. . . . . IMHO (since Eliko is around)

BTW . . . . Greek has overtaken Latin in British Public Schools now.

You are a several decades late in your instruction Phoenix....We were taught those words in 1963 at the deadly end of a gun......We will never forget....Perhaps that is why you should learn Turkish and learn oppression from the receivers point of view.

So speaking Turkish automatically qualifies you to feel oppressed . . . .

Only when compared to Greek.....As in Greek Cypriot also...

In that case learn Greek and feel FREE.

The feeling may arise from the beauty of the language, but the reality of the weight you'd bare for the envy you generate from your neighbours, should bring home to you why since the Ottomans arrived, being Greek or Cypriot, has been synonymous with being the persecuted.

[zan]

The only reason I would learn Turkish was to see if I could get gain some insight into why Turks think they do.
Maybe communicating to them in Turkish may FINALLY make them understand the things they fail to appreciate in Greek or English.

Perhaps words like Genocide, atrocities, illegalities etc. may ring home when translated to Turkish

. . . . . IMHO (since Eliko is around)

BTW . . . . Greek has overtaken Latin in British Public Schools now.

You are a several decades late in your instruction Phoenix....We were taught those words in 1963 at the deadly end of a gun......We will never forget....Perhaps that is why you should learn Turkish and learn oppression from the receivers point of view.

So speaking Turkish automatically qualifies you to feel oppressed . . . .

Only when compared to Greek.....As in Greek Cypriot also...

In that case learn Greek and feel FREE.

The feeling may arise from the beauty of the language, but the reality of the weight you'd bare for the envy you generate from your neighbours, should bring home to you why since the Ottomans arrived, being Greek or Cypriot, has been synonymous with being the persecuted.

Although eloquently put....very childish and a repeat if not reversal of what I wrote....2/10

[phoenix]

The only reason I would learn Turkish was to see if I could get gain some insight into why Turks think they do.
Maybe communicating to them in Turkish may FINALLY make them understand the things they fail to appreciate in Greek or English.

Perhaps words like Genocide, atrocities, illegalities etc. may ring home when translated to Turkish

. . . . . IMHO (since Eliko is around)

BTW . . . . Greek has overtaken Latin in British Public Schools now.

You are a several decades late in your instruction Phoenix....We were taught those words in 1963 at the deadly end of a gun......We will never forget....Perhaps that is why you should learn Turkish and learn oppression from the receivers point of view.

So speaking Turkish automatically qualifies you to feel oppressed . . . .

Only when compared to Greek.....As in Greek Cypriot also...

In that case learn Greek and feel FREE.

The feeling may arise from the beauty of the language, but the reality of the weight you'd bare for the envy you generate from your neighbours, should bring home to you why since the Ottomans arrived, being Greek or Cypriot, has been synonymous with being the persecuted.

Although eloquently put....very childish and a repeat if not reversal of what I wrote....2/10

Just flexing some neurons . . . back to work. See you later

[zan]

The only reason I would learn Turkish was to see if I could get gain some insight into why Turks think they do.
Maybe communicating to them in Turkish may FINALLY make them understand the things they fail to appreciate in Greek or English.

Perhaps words like Genocide, atrocities, illegalities etc. may ring home when translated to Turkish

. . . . . IMHO (since Eliko is around)

BTW . . . . Greek has overtaken Latin in British Public Schools now.

You are a several decades late in your instruction Phoenix....We were taught those words in 1963 at the deadly end of a gun......We will never forget....Perhaps that is why you should learn Turkish and learn oppression from the receivers point of view.

So speaking Turkish automatically qualifies you to feel oppressed . . . .

Only when compared to Greek.....As in Greek Cypriot also...

In that case learn Greek and feel FREE.

The feeling may arise from the beauty of the language, but the reality of the weight you'd bare for the envy you generate from your neighbours, should bring home to you why since the Ottomans arrived, being Greek or Cypriot, has been synonymous with being the persecuted.

Although eloquently put....very childish and a repeat if not reversal of what I wrote....2/10

Just flexing some neurons . . . back to work. See you later

Those ones have had enough exercise for one life time....Try bringing those unused ones into play sometime.....

[Viewpoint]

Isnt Turkish an official language of south Cyprus?

[denizaksulu]

The only reason I would learn Turkish was to see if I could gain some insight into why Turks think the way they do.
Maybe communicating to them in Turkish may FINALLY make them understand the things they fail to appreciate in Greek or English.

Perhaps words like Genocide, atrocities, illegalities etc. may ring home when translated to Turkish

. . . . . IMHO (since Eliko is around)

BTW . . . . Greek has overtaken Latin in British Public Schools now.

Phoenix I am glad you are willing to learn as I am willing to teach you. You can PM me and we can make the arrangements for lesson one. No fee. Now thats an inducement.

[zan]

Isnt Turkish an official language of south Cyprus?

Not anymore mate...Another unofficial change to the Zurich agreement that makes the "RoC" illegal in concept...

[Viewpoint]

Isnt Turkish an official language of south Cyprus?

Not anymore mate...Another unofficial change to the Zurich agreement that makes the "RoC" illegal in concept...

These people chop and change to suit their cause, I always thought Turkish was an officaial language in the "RoC".

[zan]

Trust Zan to look for the cynical explanation!

Spanish and Italian, being Romance langaguags with straightforward grammar, and easy pronunication would have been my choice as a lazy student. Economically too they would be more beneficial as official languages ot eh EU. Spanish especially would be the more valuable one.

Turkish is an easy language to learn the basics in Nikitas and early exam levels would be easy too. Even I could possibly pass them. AND then........Turkish in the EU would be much more useful in the future....

I was only stating the mind of lazy students as you say and nothing else in this.....Soft options seem to be the way they go except for the most prepared of students. For them, whether Turkey and the TRNC get into the EU or not it would make sense to have that qualification for linking two worlds together.......Greeks do plan well ahead

Personally I dont think these Cypriot students took Turkish as an easier option. Mind you learning Turkish is far easier than the other languages mentioned. As long as you learn the alphabet, there is no beating a phonetic Language. That aside, I have admiration for the students, or parents and teachers who had the foresight to encourage these students to learn the language of other Cypriots.
I hope this action is reciprocated in the north. Maybe it will wipe the shameful act of removing 'Greek' from the syllabus at the secondary schools in the early 1960's.

Kafenes wrote:

In the ROC, most government clerical jobs require the knowledge of the Turkish language. Students studying Turkish know they have a better chance getting a government job.

I do try to be optimistic Deniz..Honestly I do but practicalities of a competitive age always knock me for six. The decision making along the lines of education from a parents point of view is what I am very much involved in at the moment and the views I hear are very disturbing sometimes. Maybe I have had a sheltered upbringing but the dog that wants to eat this dog seems to have much bigger teeth.....

[Get Real!]

Could Turkish be the "Soft Option" in their choice of having to take two languages??????

Could this be a self-imposed “Turkification”? Everything's going as planned Zanny...