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Postby Bananiot » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:26 pm

Pyrpolyser, are we in the same boat? Whom shall we vote for? Like you I am not very optimistic, whoever takes Papadopoulos place, but I will not become cynical because this will destroy my soul.
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Russian money

Postby cymart » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:58 pm

Putin and his stooges all have vast sums of money stashed away abroad,not only in Cyprus off-shore accounts but in London as well as other less reputable places where not too many questions are asked about its origin!
This regime lives on fear and rules with it,like all totalitarian ones and nobody ever feels completely sure that the wheel will not turn against them without warning!This is why many rich Russians keep their wives and children abroad most of the time so they will be spared the fate of people like Khodorkovskiy who tried to run an honest company but ended up breaking rocks at a government 'hotel camp' in Siberia once he upset the boss!
Believe me everyone,the Russian regime is very bad news and has no time for sentimentality or consideration for human values of decency and principles which we take for granted!Never forget that.....
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:03 pm

Bananiot wrote:Pyrpolyser, are we in the same boat? Whom shall we vote for? Like you I am not very optimistic, whoever takes Papadopoulos place, but I will not become cynical because this will destroy my soul.



I will not vote for Kasoulides either.He comes from the party that PROVED beyond any doubt-ever since the coup upto the Anan plan-they are working for double Enosis. So I have only one option "left" although I am a rightist. :wink:
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Re: Russian money

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:06 pm

cymart wrote:Putin and his stooges all have vast sums of money stashed away abroad,not only in Cyprus off-shore accounts but in London as well as other less reputable places where not too many questions are asked about its origin!
This regime lives on fear and rules with it,like all totalitarian ones and nobody ever feels completely sure that the wheel will not turn against them without warning!This is why many rich Russians keep their wives and children abroad most of the time so they will be spared the fate of people like Khodorkovskiy who tried to run an honest company but ended up breaking rocks at a government 'hotel camp' in Siberia once he upset the boss!
Believe me everyone,the Russian regime is very bad news and has no time for sentimentality or consideration for human values of decency and principles which we take for granted!Never forget that.....


And this is the kind of people we NEED my friend. People who have no values and only care how to align their interests with ours.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:07 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Pyrpolyser, are we in the same boat? Whom shall we vote for? Like you I am not very optimistic, whoever takes Papadopoulos place, but I will not become cynical because this will destroy my soul.

I will not vote for Kasoulides either.He comes from the party that PROVED beyond any doubt-ever since the coup upto the Anan plan-they are working for double Enosis. So I have only one option "left" although I am a rightist. :wink:

Don't do it Pyro... if you think the EU doesn't like Tpap you just wait and see what happens when the whole world sees us voting for an ardent communist!
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:12 pm

Observer asks:

"How much was spent by groups suggesting a 'NO' Vote?"

Not much if anything at all. Judging by the situation in Greece, the pro Annan journalists had the run of the state media as well as private electronic and print media. It is no accident that some of the journalists who campaigned fervently for the plan later started their own businesses.

Two people, a professor of international relations and a journalist advising the Cyprus embassy in Athens were the only two Cypriot voices heard at any length on Greek media against the plan. Plus short appearances by Greek personalities like professor Yiannaras.

There were no publications published against the plan, not TV specials, no ads. Nothing like the pro campaign.
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Postby Bananiot » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:30 pm

Nikitas, you could't have been more wrong. The money that was spent for the "NO" campaign was huge. Millions were poured in by businessmen alone who thought that they would lose out in the case of a solution.
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:21 pm

Bananiot,

If the money spent on the No campaign was huge, where are the booklets, the special gues appearances, the special little advertorials like we saw for the Yes side?
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No values?

Postby cymart » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:33 pm

High incomes, low morals,low cultural standards, corrruption at every level of society,no respect for animals,people from third world countries or the environment and a love of prostitution and pornography with a mafia that runs businesses posing as the church hierarchy.
No wonder the Russian mafia love Cyprus so much-it's like Russia under the sun!and the whores are cheaper too!)
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Postby boomerang » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:47 pm

Bananiot wrote:Nikitas, you could't have been more wrong. The money that was spent for the "NO" campaign was huge. Millions were poured in by businessmen alone who thought that they would lose out in the case of a solution.


Let me get this straight...The NO camp had to spend money so all the idiots, the 76%, would vote no?

Are you for real Bananiot?...As soon as the plan included anything to do with turkey, as a guarantor it was all over...I am surpriced you can't twist your mind around this one...

Especially the gloading by Erdie and Gul at the end...They will lose their sovereignity, he said...What an insult and you sat there and not only take it you are endorsing it for a hope in the future the turks will become whatever...Just look at how they treat their own citizens just to see how much removed from democracy and humanity they are...
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=14691

End of the day the turks ain't ready for a solution...The only solution they want is to solidify their gains by trying to legalize the rape of Cyprus...Just look at their EU aspirations...They want to join the EU but they want the EU to bend the rules just for them...No idea and no concept...And you want us to be tied to their apron strings?

Man I prefer the current situation and let turkey negotiate, grilled by the EU and demand a solution then...Now it's too early for any kind of a solution...
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