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[boulio]

your breaking my heart.

[Viewpoint]

I have to say I agree with turkcyp totally we have to be proactive rather than wait for GCs to decide what changes they want to the Annan plan which as far as we can make out will be so substantial that TCs will vote it down and we will back to square one.
This opportunity of utter negativism and annoyance with the South can be channelled towards realizing that partition can be the solution that will end this neverending saga of the "Cyprus Issue"
The issues that turkcyp raises are valid and with a TC & Turkey conserted effort in the internationl arena and the carrot of return of substantial amount of land this solution in my opinion would be viable and just. (just like Mr Papadop keeps repeating.)

[insan]

I have to say I agree with turkcyp totally we have to be proactive rather than wait for GCs to decide what changes they want to the Annan plan which as far as we can make out will be so substantial that TCs will vote it down and we will back to square one.
This opportunity of utter negativism and annoyance with the South can be channelled towards realizing that partition can be the solution that will end this neverending saga of the "Cyprus Issue"
The issues that turkcyp raises are valid and with a TC & Turkey conserted effort in the internationl arena and the carrot of return of substantial amount of land this solution in my opinion would be viable and just. (just like Mr Papadop keeps repeating.)

Only a mutually agreed partition is possible but it's not an easy task. It would take at least 20-30 years complete partition.


First of all TCs will have to give Famagusta, Morphou and substantial amount of agricultural land back to GC administration. How long does it take to build one Famagusta and one Morphou in North? There are at least 30 villages located in the land that should be returned. How long does it take to build 30 new villages and how long does it take to rehabilitate the inhabitants of abandoned towns and villages?

[Viewpoint]

No one denys the vast task before us but we TCs and younger generations of TCs have plenty of time to rebuild and relocate into areas which will be internationally recognised.
The move towards a recognized partition would of course run more smoothly if we could agree recognition of division for land and GCs did not attempt to obstruct us at every turn, the ideal scenario would be that they work with us to build new cities so that we may vacate those that will be returned. This would help build good neighbour relations and contribute to the economy of both southern and northern cyprus, at last bringing to an end all this you did this I did that mentality.
For GCs the TC inconvenience issue both ecenomically and politically would be removed once and for all and TCs would no longer be untrusting of GCs intentions over every issue thinkable.

[insan]

No one denys the vast task before us but we TCs and younger generations of TCs have plenty of time to rebuild and relocate into areas which will be internationally recognised.

What about money? Some 30 billion $$$

[Viewpoint]

Northern Cyprus, Turkey and International Aid would be a start, we have to think positive and not make excuses.

(PS Turkey is looking to foot the bill however you look at the issue either through partition or ECHR decsions)

[MicAtCyp]

The move towards a recognized partition would of course run more smoothly if we could agree recognition of division for land and GCs did not attempt to obstruct us at every turn, the ideal scenario would be that they work with us to build new cities so that we may vacate those that will be returned. This would help build good neighbour relations and contribute to the economy of both southern and northern cyprus, at last bringing to an end all this you did this I did that mentality.

If you want partition you should be able to return 19% of the land within a fraction of a second. And even in that case the GCs will not agree to recognise you.
As I am bored repeating the same things heres an old post that explains it all.

What you don't understand Viewpoint is that if you want to have partition and recognition you don't really need the permission of the GCs not even an agreement with them! All you have to do is just return 19% land back!
But first you have to take permission from your Generals.Can you?

The GCs will never make an agreement even for an 18-82% because they know very well what they will get in the end. It is NOT an option for us, it even does not depend on us. In other words we would be idiots to fall in such a trap.

What about money? Some 30 billion $$$

Northern Cyprus, Turkey and International Aid would be a start, we have to think positive and not make excuses.

Ha,ha,ha, ha,ha,ha!

1 bakir+1 bakir+1 bakir=3 so far

[Viewpoint]

MicAtCyp

If you want partition you should be able to return 19%

Wasnt 35% common land pre 1974, owned by the joint government??? dont we have any rights there????

30% of 35% =10.5%
18% + 10.5% = 28.5%

28.5% Northern Cyprus
71.5% Southern Cyprus

The recognition of partition issue is gaining momentum in the north and will in time be the only option for us as we watch, read and learn more about GCs mentality and how they see a united Cyprus.

MicAtCyp do you know what arrogant and big head means??????

[turkcyp]

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[Viewpoint]

turkcyp please feel free to correct the faulty maths as your research finds it, wasnt there 35% common property pre 1974???