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[humanist]

VP

Humanist if you cannot see the difference between Phoenix Belos and me then noway can I make you...you for me have just as much right to be here on this island I do not want any harm to come to any GC but its obvious we cannot make things work together so why not let each community get on with their own lives allowing both sides a level playing field where Cypriots are allowed to move and live where ever they wish?

VP I am sure that if we ever crossed paths, I will feel a sense of like from you, unless I got it so oooooooo wrong. Man the fact that you want to separate two groups of people as well as your country that shows to me the same racist attitude and discrimination regardless. As far as I see it you feel your are better than I or fellow Cypriot and hence you want to live separately and that is fine. However, Cyprus ain't the place to do that. And for the time being you have your way and perhaps it gives you a sense of proudness, well for me the Cypro is a sense of shame.

And am bloody proud to be Cypriot and bloody proud to know that Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots and I would give anything for a unified country and to be able to move back home without the threat of war from Turkey and where I can learn turkish and hang around Turkish eateries and clubs, no sex clubs, casinos or cabarets for this cookie.

I have faith to believe that we can make it work, it may not be the utopia that Belenos is refering too, but I believe where there is will and education there is a way.

You don't have to make m see anuything either i make up my own points of view. You are aware of my personal experience of this situation yet hold no grudge to a fellow Cypriot, I hate the Turkish army and their invasion of Cyprus and the rest, but I do believe that if individuals come together the State will follow.

Anyway thank God for Talatmoron and his militant attitude, before long I will be seeing many Turkish speaking Cypriots mving south, why would they go back to a prison. And thank God the RoC is allowing Turkish speaking Cypriots living within the RoC to vote, that will give people a sense of belonging and hope.

[T_C]

SSSSHHHHHHH !!!!!
ZAAANNNNN, DEEEEENNİİİİZZZZZ,

don't u know ? when the eart is created GREEKS are injected directly to Cyprus ....... Blame me they were the invaders of the Cyprus too . We all know,when the the god created the earth no one was on it . They all came to Cyprus from some where ........ (araps,pers,romans, venetions ,greeks, english etc....etc .)
Last owner of the Cyprus is TC's and GC's.
Who cares about B.C or so .........
No power on the earth will stop TC's rights on CYPRUS.

The original settlers of Cyprus were hellenic and so was the entire Aegean sea. Turks only came into existence some 600 years ago so please, learn a thing or two about history.

And if it werent for big brother turkey, every power on earth would stop TC's "right" on Cyprus.

The original settlers in Cyprus were not Hellenic...the Greeks came three thousand years after the first ones, (hence why they're always using their assimilation theory to try and link to the indigenous Cypriots).

The first settlers where Hellenic and phoenician at around 16000 BC.

What are you talking about?!?!??!? Can you provide us with a link to your source???

[T_C]

Really????The life of my family in it's broadest sense was saved.......I have a place that I can call home and relate to.......We have a base from which we can fight for our rights as Cypriots and cofounder and partner in Cyprus.......We have a friend in Turkey that gave us food and medicine where the GCs tried to starve us off the island.......My family escaped the island regardless of all the ports being watched, and thousands more did as well.....One way exit visas for all TCs seemed to be the order of the day........And the most exiting and relevant part is that WE EXIST IN SPITE OF ALL THIS.......Get's up peoples noses I know but........


Don't be too brain washed about Turkeys part in all this mate.....Realities like those above will hit you hard otherwise!!!!!

Why would turkey even care about you if it didnt have any economic interests in the Island. In fact I will go further than that, Turks being mongol descendants, have not gotten that urge for ever more land out of their system, and so any act of imperialism is perfectly justifiable by turkish standards.

You, being there for 5 or 500 years, are still nothing but a guest on the island. You obviously have a right to be represented, but there is no such place as TRNC, it is common logic. Say I were to go into your house, do what I wanted, and then when the time came tell you get out, it's mine.

Of course sad things happened and greeks killed greeks, it is true and very sad. But none of this would ahve happened were it not for turkish presence on the island.

Now havnt your people caused enough trouble? stolen enough land? Turkey is on the blood and bones of Armenian, assyrian and greek lands, dont you ahve enough room to live on?

Or pack up and leave, or be an honorable guest and SHUT THE FUCK UP!

How about fuck you!

Or how about you come try to get us to "shut the fuck up".

Some dickhead trying to give us orders....

Since it's YOU complaining and since the TCs are quite happy, take some of your own advice....

Turkish arguments.
You really are true to your barbaric nature, you have proven it.

Bunch of Hyenas

LOL You could of come out with someting better than that!

[T_C]

Really????The life of my family in it's broadest sense was saved.......I have a place that I can call home and relate to.......We have a base from which we can fight for our rights as Cypriots and cofounder and partner in Cyprus.......We have a friend in Turkey that gave us food and medicine where the GCs tried to starve us off the island.......My family escaped the island regardless of all the ports being watched, and thousands more did as well.....One way exit visas for all TCs seemed to be the order of the day........And the most exiting and relevant part is that WE EXIST IN SPITE OF ALL THIS.......Get's up peoples noses I know but........


Don't be too brain washed about Turkeys part in all this mate.....Realities like those above will hit you hard otherwise!!!!!

Why would turkey even care about you if it didnt have any economic interests in the Island. In fact I will go further than that, Turks being mongol descendants, have not gotten that urge for ever more land out of their system, and so any act of imperialism is perfectly justifiable by turkish standards.

You, being there for 5 or 500 years, are still nothing but a guest on the island. You obviously have a right to be represented, but there is no such place as TRNC, it is common logic. Say I were to go into your house, do what I wanted, and then when the time came tell you get out, it's mine.

Of course sad things happened and greeks killed greeks, it is true and very sad. But none of this would ahve happened were it not for turkish presence on the island.

Now havnt your people caused enough trouble? stolen enough land? Turkey is on the blood and bones of Armenian, assyrian and greek lands, dont you ahve enough room to live on?

Or pack up and leave, or be an honorable guest and SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Another great example, thank you for telling the truth of how GCs view TCs, Phoenix and now Belos telling us how it is and how we would be seen in a united Cyprus. TCs take note and try to understand why unificaiton will never happena nd why the TRNC is so important for our survival, Turk vs GC.....Turk wins every time.

Thisis the attitude of the "guests" residing on our island. still wanna keep them?

OUR??? Hmmmmmmm...

[Viewpoint]

VP

Humanist if you cannot see the difference between Phoenix Belos and me then noway can I make you...you for me have just as much right to be here on this island I do not want any harm to come to any GC but its obvious we cannot make things work together so why not let each community get on with their own lives allowing both sides a level playing field where Cypriots are allowed to move and live where ever they wish?

VP I am sure that if we ever crossed paths, I will feel a sense of like from you, unless I got it so oooooooo wrong. Man the fact that you want to separate two groups of people as well as your country that shows to me the same racist attitude and discrimination regardless. As far as I see it you feel your are better than I or fellow Cypriot and hence you want to live separately and that is fine. However, Cyprus ain't the place to do that. And for the time being you have your way and perhaps it gives you a sense of proudness, well for me the Cypro is a sense of shame.

And am bloody proud to be Cypriot and bloody proud to know that Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots and I would give anything for a unified country and to be able to move back home without the threat of war from Turkey and where I can learn turkish and hang around Turkish eateries and clubs, no sex clubs, casinos or cabarets for this cookie.

I have faith to believe that we can make it work, it may not be the utopia that Belenos is refering too, but I believe where there is will and education there is a way.

You don't have to make m see anuything either i make up my own points of view. You are aware of my personal experience of this situation yet hold no grudge to a fellow Cypriot, I hate the Turkish army and their invasion of Cyprus and the rest, but I do believe that if individuals come together the State will follow.

Anyway thank God for Talatmoron and his militant attitude, before long I will be seeing many Turkish speaking Cypriots mving south, why would they go back to a prison. And thank God the RoC is allowing Turkish speaking Cypriots living within the RoC to vote, that will give people a sense of belonging and hope.

I'm sure if our paths ever crossed we would be the best of friends the only problem is we care for Cyprus in different ways, you see us all living together happily ever after and I would prefer to live in our designated areas each community ruling themselves without the domination of one over the other but with rights to roam and settle where ever they wish north or south.

You have stated before that you feel TCs will slowly move south, well its been 4 years and that trend does not seem to be gaining any momentum, its simple really TCs do not want to be ruled purely by GCs, they want a say in their own future, if a united Cyprus cannot provide this then we have no deal and the division can remain for hundreds of years. The isolation will be gradually relaxed over many years this we are prepared for and seeing that GCs persist with their current policies the Turks will always be the better option.

[humanist]

A message to T_C, VP, Deniz and Zan ....... please help me ignore Belenos and lets not get into the provocation.

[phoenix]

I think the Turk-TCs have closed the circle, and met their bloodthirsty, barbaric sisters the Ottomans.

[denizaksulu]

I think the Turk-TCs have closed the circle, and met their bloodthirsty, barbaric sisters the Ottomans.

Phoenix mou, always the agent provocateur.

I have a theory about you, if I may elaborate.

I think you once had a Turkish or Turkish Cypriot lover and you fell out and he dumped you. Now you blame everything Turkish for your pains. You find fit to provoke all and sundry who fall into this category. Am I right or am I right?

I hate that man who has made you suffer, now we have to pick up the pieces.

Regards

[T_C]

A message to T_C, VP, Deniz and Zan ....... please help me ignore Belenos and lets not get into the provocation.

Cool...

[phoenix]

I think the Turk-TCs have closed the circle, and met their bloodthirsty, barbaric sisters the Ottomans.

Phoenix mou, always the agent provocateur.

I have a theory about you, if I may elaborate.

I think you once had a Turkish or Turkish Cypriot lover and you fell out and he dumped you. Now you blame everything Turkish for your pains. You find fit to provoke all and sundry who fall into this category. Am I right or am I right?

I hate that man who has made you suffer, now we have to pick up the pieces.

Regards

Almost . . . he was Turkish, and really beautiful and intelligent . . . . it was like Romeo and Juliet, feuding tribes etc. All very romantic and VERY innocent. . . but I went off to Uni and we lost touch. I think he went back to Turkey in which case I fear he may have met a sad end because he was really anti-Turkish.

We used to joke that his ancestors were probably Greek having been abducted by Turks, such as was their habit.

Deniz did you receive much training in getting confessions out of people?