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Turkish invasion of cyprus 1974

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Postby humanist » Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:58 am

TC
It wasnt just the Turkish army, the Greeks were killing eachother at the time...Even Makarios said that the death toll caused by the Greek invasion was in the thousands!

But if Turks were around why not just blame it all on them...


TC way too young and away from Cyprus to call this shot matey, please try and be a little more objective on the whole situation. You may come accross as more credible as oposed to a propaganda fed little English kid.

No Greek gun killed my grandmother's son ...... it was all Turkish, yet as we cannot have him back we forgive never forget and the fight for a Cyprus for Cypriots still goes on.
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Postby Salonikios » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:46 pm

The reality is that the elected Greek governments of Karamanlis and Papandreou took the most pragmatists positions the Greek foreign policy has ever made but unfortunately Makarios wasn't up for the task.In 1968-74 talks Makarios could stuck a deal highly favorable for GreekCypriots.Anyway Makarios was doing business with Junta and he should know better about how idealistic, unpragmatists views colonels had on this (and many other) issues.They were simply retarded.Anyway when it came to war unfortunately GreekCypriots didn't exactly fight the Turks and that's a pity because a stiff resistance of just a few days would have turned NATO against the invaders and give Greek army a chance for implementing a real plan about landing on the island.All in all too many mistakes by too many people claimed too much suffering for the Greeks of the island.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:54 pm

Salonikios,

the deal was made by Ioannidis for double union. The Turks realised the mess the Greeks were in and double crossed him and the Americans who inspired the deal. This is the reason the Cyprus file remains classified to this day. Too many people, still alive and still in the public eye, would be embarassed. Makarios, despie his stupidity, was not involved in this deal.
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Postby utu » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:53 pm

Nikitas wrote:Cyprus has three guarantor powers. One of them tried to overthrow the lawful government and take the island by subterfuge, the other invaded and partitioned the island and practically annexed the occupied part, the third helped both of them. Such luck hey!!!! And as if all that was not enough we are talking about future plans that permit these very same three countries to remain as "guarantor powers".

And then they tell you Cypriots are intelligent and cunning people!!!


Ouch! That was about as subtle as a turd in a punchbowl. Accurate too...
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Postby Belenos » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:44 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
phoenix wrote:
paaul12 wrote:What invasion are you talking about, I think you are confusing the Turkish intervention, which came about to save the lives of the Turkish Cypriots who were being murdered by Greek Cypriots, don’t you agree?


Paaul12 desist with this Turkish habit of euphemizing and downgrading your atrocities.

Wiktionary wrote:invasion

A military action consisting of armed forces of one geopolitical entity entering territory controlled by another such entity, generally with the objective of conquering territory or altering the established government.


Belenos has correctly used the word in this context.


Intervention was necessary to stop you dick heads from giving Cyprus to Greece, you should thank the Turkish army for gifting you the "RoC".


So the GC's should bow and kneel to you and thank you for preserving their National integrity? And where does the TRNC fit in all this? what exactly did the intervention preserve, Cyprus as a whole or Turkey's interests on the island?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:59 pm

Belenos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
phoenix wrote:
paaul12 wrote:What invasion are you talking about, I think you are confusing the Turkish intervention, which came about to save the lives of the Turkish Cypriots who were being murdered by Greek Cypriots, don’t you agree?


Paaul12 desist with this Turkish habit of euphemizing and downgrading your atrocities.

Wiktionary wrote:invasion

A military action consisting of armed forces of one geopolitical entity entering territory controlled by another such entity, generally with the objective of conquering territory or altering the established government.


Belenos has correctly used the word in this context.


Intervention was necessary to stop you dick heads from giving Cyprus to Greece, you should thank the Turkish army for gifting you the "RoC".


So the GC's should bow and kneel to you and thank you for preserving their National integrity? And where does the TRNC fit in all this? what exactly did the intervention preserve, Cyprus as a whole or Turkey's interests on the island?


The Turkish Cypriots interests as co-owners of this island.
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Postby Cliff » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:54 am

U ALL FORGET IT WAS A JEWISH LED CIA WHICH ENCOURAGED THE INVASION, FOR AN AIR BASE IN TURKEY, THE AMERICANS ASKED CYPRUS FIRST FOR A BASE AND THEY REFUSED...USA WANTED TO BE IN A POSITION TO ATTACK RUSSIA AFTER THE BAY OF PIGS..THE US WAY OF THINKING, AN EXAMPLE THE ARMS RACE...I GOT MORE NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAN YOU! NOW LOOK AT THEM 44 TRILLION IN DEBT! WHO WILL DECLARE THEM BANKRUPT THEY OWN THE IMF BANK! I THINK THEY WILL WANT FULL PAYMENT FROM TURKEY SOON FOR ALL THE AIRCRAFT AND WEAPONS SUPPLIED, AFTER THEIR INVASION OF IRAQ HASEN'T PAID OFF
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Postby Belenos » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:04 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Belenos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
phoenix wrote:
paaul12 wrote:What invasion are you talking about, I think you are confusing the Turkish intervention, which came about to save the lives of the Turkish Cypriots who were being murdered by Greek Cypriots, don’t you agree?


Paaul12 desist with this Turkish habit of euphemizing and downgrading your atrocities.

Wiktionary wrote:invasion

A military action consisting of armed forces of one geopolitical entity entering territory controlled by another such entity, generally with the objective of conquering territory or altering the established government.


Belenos has correctly used the word in this context.


Intervention was necessary to stop you dick heads from giving Cyprus to Greece, you should thank the Turkish army for gifting you the "RoC".


So the GC's should bow and kneel to you and thank you for preserving their National integrity? And where does the TRNC fit in all this? what exactly did the intervention preserve, Cyprus as a whole or Turkey's interests on the island?


The Turkish Cypriots interests as co-owners of this island.


Uh-huh.

In germany today, there are some 2000 000 turks living off welfare and causing trouble, the germans would like nothing more but to kick them out. I honestly wonder if the same thing will happen soon.

Turks, even from 500 years ago, are GUESTS on the island and not co-owners. Keep that in mind...
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Postby phoenix » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:08 am

Belenos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Belenos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
phoenix wrote:
paaul12 wrote:What invasion are you talking about, I think you are confusing the Turkish intervention, which came about to save the lives of the Turkish Cypriots who were being murdered by Greek Cypriots, don’t you agree?


Paaul12 desist with this Turkish habit of euphemizing and downgrading your atrocities.

Wiktionary wrote:invasion

A military action consisting of armed forces of one geopolitical entity entering territory controlled by another such entity, generally with the objective of conquering territory or altering the established government.


Belenos has correctly used the word in this context.


Intervention was necessary to stop you dick heads from giving Cyprus to Greece, you should thank the Turkish army for gifting you the "RoC".


So the GC's should bow and kneel to you and thank you for preserving their National integrity? And where does the TRNC fit in all this? what exactly did the intervention preserve, Cyprus as a whole or Turkey's interests on the island?


The Turkish Cypriots interests as co-owners of this island.


Uh-huh.

In germany today, there are some 2000 000 turks living off welfare and causing trouble, the germans would like nothing more but to kick them out. I honestly wonder if the same thing will happen soon.

Turks, even from 500 years ago, are GUESTS on the island and not co-owners. Keep that in mind...


. . . Uninvited! :roll:
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Postby Cliff » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:23 am

something which i heard, very upsetting...the missing were (those who survived torture) human subject, with full american knowledge, in scientific experiments. as for the murders these were spin doctored by usa and propaganda by turkey, people forget the biggest genocide in unwritten history, what happened to the 80% christians in modern day turkey? i met a refugee in athens from odays turkey, he recalls the ethnic cleansing there..just type 50 million christians into google to see something we fear could have continued, had it not been for tv & radio
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