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How long does it take a foreigner to become a Cypriot?

Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:40 am

How long does it take a foreigner to become a Cypriot?

Surely 400+ years would’ve been more than enough for any other foreign people to blend in with an alien environment but not so for the Turkish Cypriots unfortunately, who have throughout their existence on Cyprus sworn allegiance to Turkey and never to Cyprus herself, so it is by no accident that they have a confused sense of Cypriot identity, for how can one feel part of a place when they are constantly fighting against it?

Any foreigner who denies the very foundations of their adopted country, such as its indigenous people, language, religion, culture, history, etc, can never hope to be part of it because to “belong” means to first ACCEPT the family or group you wish to belong to, but unfortunately the TC community, speared on by Turkey, has forever had an official “Challenge & Reject” policy against the island in its entirety.

Is it ever possible for such a negative formula to work in favor of the foreigner? Can the Turkish Cypriots swim against the flow of the river and find the happiness they claim to seek or is there a natural precondition for the foreigner to ACCEPT and EMBRACE the adopted environment in its entirety or face ultimate demise?


Regards, GR.
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Postby iceman » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:46 am

As long as you see yourself as the "indigenous" and us as the "foreigner" this problem will go on. :wink:
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Postby Issy1956 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:52 am

And how about the Greek Cypriots who have been in Cyprus even longer and yet still have allegiance to Greece. How about them-wil they ever become Cypriots?
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:55 am

iceman wrote:As long as you see yourself as the "indigenous" and us as the "foreigner" this problem will go on. :wink:

That is not determined by me or any other individual Iceman. The definition for the word “indigenous” is already agreed upon the world around so you might want to ADD that to your TC dictionary and thus disprove my allegations.
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Postby umit07 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:55 am

Get Real

You have a fish brain. You seem to forget som of these facts:

1. Which countries national anthem do have?

2.Who tried to unite Cyprus with Greece?

3. What is the nationality of the commander of your armed forces?

4.The flag of Cyprus always has a flag of Greece next to it.

And you try to make us think that you have a REPUBLIC .

THE GREEK REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:04 am

umit07 wrote:Get Real

You have a fish brain. You seem to forget som of these facts:

1. Which countries national anthem do have?

2.Who tried to unite Cyprus with Greece?

3. What is the nationality of the commander of your armed forces?

4.The flag of Cyprus always has a flag of Greece next to it.

And you try to make us think that you have a REPUBLIC .

THE GREEK REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS

The movement for the union with Greece is a very recent event (early 20th century) in the history of Cyprus and one that was triggered by the frustration and hopelessness of the indigenous people at the hands of the Ottomans/Turks so do not get confused.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:10 am

Issy1956 wrote:And how about the Greek Cypriots who have been in Cyprus even longer and yet still have allegiance to Greece. How about them-wil they ever become Cypriots?

Again, had the barbaric Ottomans never invaded there is nothing to suggest that the Cypriots would have ever pursued ENOSIS with Greece. In other words, in their frustration and desperation, the indigenous people assumed that they would be PROTECTED from the Ottoman curse by the Greeks. That is hardly offering allegiance to another country.
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Postby phoenix » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:23 am

Issy1956 wrote:And how about the Greek Cypriots who have been in Cyprus even longer and yet still have allegiance to Greece. How about them-wil they ever become Cypriots?


As well as GR's answer to you regarding the allegiance I would like to remind you that all Greek Cypriots speak the same language and share the same religion, plus more. So there is no issue about integration and becoming Cypriot. GCs inherently fulfil (most of) the criteria.
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Postby sweetie pie » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:03 am

phoenix wrote:
Issy1956 wrote:And how about the Greek Cypriots who have been in Cyprus even longer and yet still have allegiance to Greece. How about them-wil they ever become Cypriots?


As well as GR's answer to you regarding the allegiance I would like to remind you that all Greek Cypriots speak the same language and share the same religion, plus more. So there is no issue about integration and becoming Cypriot. GCs inherently fulfil (most of) the criteria.


That argument is flawed really. Australians speak English and most have their roots in England also Americans speak English and lots have roots in England but they have grown up and left mothers nest and do not now hang on to her apron strings. They are proud to be Australian and American and rightly so.
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:39 pm

Get Real! wrote:
iceman wrote:As long as you see yourself as the "indigenous" and us as the "foreigner" this problem will go on. :wink:

That is not determined by me or any other individual Iceman. The definition for the word “indigenous” is already agreed upon the world around so you might want to ADD that to your TC dictionary and thus disprove my allegations.


Yes, we have already established that you are FAR from being indigenous since this is not a matter of time, the only indigenous people of the island are long gone, so your stupid allegations are rotten from its foundations.

It is absolutely bloody ridiculous that this baboon can sit around and propose that we are the "guests" while they are the "indigenous" people of the island and only to turn around and say "oh but why do they not even feel Cypriot", you are an absolute joke, and even more funnier when you try to sound clever.

Don't for get that you were foreigners here at one point too my friend.

We do feel and ARE Cypriots, it is YOU who cannot accept it!!!!
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