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How long does it take a foreigner to become a Cypriot?

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Postby phoenix » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:38 pm

T_C wrote:It doesn't matter really does it...using your theories would mean the Turks are the decendants of the indigenous people of Anatolia so I wouldn't exactly say it's irrelevant.


No it does not . . . stop grasping at straws. The Turks are not indigenous to Anatolia / Turkey either.

I've asked many times (especially in Chimera days 8) ) but we can't pinpoint their source . . . they are not indigenous to anywhere! :lol: Until we find the missing link of their wellspring / spawning ground we can refer to it as "Ottoland" . . . OK

Honestly, I don't mind helping to find out where you did originate from. It would be a really interesting quest. :D
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Postby iceman » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:52 pm

phoenix wrote:
T_C wrote:It doesn't matter really does it...using your theories would mean the Turks are the decendants of the indigenous people of Anatolia so I wouldn't exactly say it's irrelevant.


No it does not . . . stop grasping at straws. The Turks are not indigenous to Anatolia / Turkey either.

I've asked many times (especially in Chimera days 8) ) but we can't pinpoint their source . . . they are not indigenous to anywhere! :lol: Until we find the missing link of their wellspring / spawning ground we can refer to it as "Ottoland" . . . OK

Honestly, I don't mind helping to find out where you did originate from. It would be a really interesting quest. :D



they came from outer space...how do you like that? Turks must be indigenous to outer space... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby phoenix » Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:13 pm

iceman wrote:
phoenix wrote:
T_C wrote:It doesn't matter really does it...using your theories would mean the Turks are the decendants of the indigenous people of Anatolia so I wouldn't exactly say it's irrelevant.


No it does not . . . stop grasping at straws. The Turks are not indigenous to Anatolia / Turkey either.

I've asked many times (especially in Chimera days 8) ) but we can't pinpoint their source . . . they are not indigenous to anywhere! :lol: Until we find the missing link of their wellspring / spawning ground we can refer to it as "Ottoland" . . . OK

Honestly, I don't mind helping to find out where you did originate from. It would be a really interesting quest. :D



they came from outer space...how do you like that? Turks must be indigenous to outer space... :lol: :lol: :lol:


Iceman you're a Genius . . . as well as an Alien :shock:

. . . . Now which planet, probably made of Loukoumia (mmm), full of belly dancing natives could be the source of the Turk Invaders ? :lol:
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Postby T_C » Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:19 pm

phoenix wrote:
T_C wrote:It doesn't matter really does it...using your theories would mean the Turks are the decendants of the indigenous people of Anatolia so I wouldn't exactly say it's irrelevant.


No it does not . . . stop grasping at straws. The Turks are not indigenous to Anatolia / Turkey either.

I've asked many times (especially in Chimera days 8) ) but we can't pinpoint their source . . . they are not indigenous to anywhere! :lol: Until we find the missing link of their wellspring / spawning ground we can refer to it as "Ottoland" . . . OK

Honestly, I don't mind helping to find out where you did originate from. It would be a really interesting quest. :D


Well DUH!!!! It's the EXACT same straws your grasping at by suggesting you're related to the people who used to live in Cyprus 10 thousand years ago and whom abandoned the place 2 thousand years before you even set foot on the island.... :lol: :lol:

So it's plausible that the GCs were the indigenous people who were assimilated?? But disputable when your theory is applied to the Turks??

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: What a joke! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby phoenix » Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:25 pm

T_C wrote:
phoenix wrote:
T_C wrote:It doesn't matter really does it...using your theories would mean the Turks are the decendants of the indigenous people of Anatolia so I wouldn't exactly say it's irrelevant.


No it does not . . . stop grasping at straws. The Turks are not indigenous to Anatolia / Turkey either.

I've asked many times (especially in Chimera days 8) ) but we can't pinpoint their source . . . they are not indigenous to anywhere! :lol: Until we find the missing link of their wellspring / spawning ground we can refer to it as "Ottoland" . . . OK

Honestly, I don't mind helping to find out where you did originate from. It would be a really interesting quest. :D


Well DUH!!!! It's the EXACT same straws your grasping at by suggesting you're related to the people who used to live in Cyprus 10 thousand years ago and whom abandoned the place 2 thousand years before you even set foot on the island.... :lol: :lol:

So it's plausible that the GCs were the indigenous people who were assimilated?? But disputable when your theory is applied to the Turks??

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: What a joke! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


T_C Think Timeframes! .....
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Re: How long does it take a foreigner to become a Cypriot?

Postby halil » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:How long does it take a foreigner to become a Cypriot?

Surely 400+ years would’ve been more than enough for any other foreign people to blend in with an alien environment but not so for the Turkish Cypriots unfortunately, who have throughout their existence on Cyprus sworn allegiance to Turkey and never to Cyprus herself, so it is by no accident that they have a confused sense of Cypriot identity, for how can one feel part of a place when they are constantly fighting against it?

Any foreigner who denies the very foundations of their adopted country, such as its indigenous people, language, religion, culture, history, etc, can never hope to be part of it because to “belong” means to first ACCEPT the family or group you wish to belong to, but unfortunately the TC community, speared on by Turkey, has forever had an official “Challenge & Reject” policy against the island in its entirety.

Is it ever possible for such a negative formula to work in favor of the foreigner? Can the Turkish Cypriots swim against the flow of the river and find the happiness they claim to seek or is there a natural precondition for the foreigner to ACCEPT and EMBRACE the adopted environment in its entirety or face ultimate demise?


Regards, GR.



I am confused when I read every time about Cyprus . Don't you confuse GR.

The earliest human occupation on Cyprus dates to around c. 8800 BCE. Simple
hearths and stone tools are included among other evidence of small communities
of hunter-gatherers found on the south coast of the island.
About two thousand years later, the first settlers from the Syro-Palestinian coast
arrived. They established simple settlements along the coastline and in river valleys
close to arable land and water supplies. These groups practised agriculture,
supplemented by hunting and fishing, and they mostly buried their deceased within
their villages. Gaps in the archaeological record suggest that settlement at this time
was sparse and sporadic.
In the Chalcolithic period (c. 4000/3900–2500 BCE) the island became more
densely populated. Associated with this period was the increasing use of metal,
and also innovations in industries, such as worked stone for miniature figurines.
Changes in burial practices may also be discerned at this time, with the introduction
of cemeteries remote from the settlements.
A major change may be detected in metalwork and pottery around 2500 BCE,
marking the beginning of the Bronze Age. The material culture from this period
reflects some external influences that can be traced to southern Anatolia. Known
to archaeologists as the Philia Culture, this development in Cyprus has been
linked with the arrival of displaced people forced to flee the mainland several
centuries earlier. Around this time native Cypriot communities adopted the pottery
producing methods of the newcomers but used different shapes and decorative
techniques. This Early Bronze Age culture, typified by the Red Polished wares found
at the cemetery of Vounous, quickly spread to other parts of the island.
It was not until the Late Bronze Age (c. 1650–1050 BCE) that significant
changes occurred as a consequence of exchange and trade contacts with other
Mediterranean regions. Locally made Cypriot goods were exported, often contained
in the pottery vessels for which the island was becoming noted. From around 1500
BCE Cyprus enjoyed a period of great prosperity and close relations were maintained
with the Near East, Egypt and the Greek and Aegean world, whose influence
on Cypriot ceramics became apparent. Foremost among the Cypriot exports was
copper, in demand throughout the eastern Mediterranean region, largely as a
component of bronze.

more to read.
http://www.art-museum.unimelb.edu.au/fr ... panels.pdf

Chronology of ancient Cyprus

PROTO-NEOLITHIC c. 8800 BCE
First hunter-gatherers
NEOLITHIC c. 7000/6500–5700/5500 BCE
Arrival of first settlers from the Near East
CHALCOLITHIC c. 4000/3900–2500 BCE
Earliest metal objects in Cyprus
TRANSITIONAL (Philia Culture) c. 2600/2500–2300 BCE
Arrival of settlers from Anatolia
BRONZE AGE
Early Bronze Age (Early Cypriot) I c. 2500–2075 BCE
II c. 2075–2000 BCE
III c. 2000–1900 BCE
Middle Bronze Age (Middle Cypriot) I c. 1900–1800 BCE
II c. 1800–1725 BCE
III c. 1725–1650 BCE
Late Bronze Age (Late Cypriot) IA c. 1650–1575 BCE
IB c. 1575–1475 BCE
IIA c. 1475–1400 BCE
IIB c. 1400–1325 BCE
IIC c. 1325–1225 BCE
IIIA c. 1225–1190 BCE
IIIB c. 1190–1150 BCE
IIIC c. 1150–1050 BCE
IRON AGE
Geometric (Cypro-Geometric) I c. 1050–950 BCE
II c. 950–850 BCE
III c. 850–750 BCE
Archaic (Cypro-Archaic) I c. 750–600 BCE
II c. 600–475 BCE
Classical (Cypro-Classical) I c. 475–400 BCE
II c. 400–325 BCE
Hellenistic I c. 325–150 BCE
II c. 150–50 BCE
Roman I c. 50 BCE–150 CE
II c. 150–250 CE


GR from which group your family tree comes :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol:
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:36 pm

Not listed above........in GRs case. :wink:
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Postby phoenix » Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:54 pm

I wish someone would tell me where on Earth Turks were spawned and stop reciting our own history which is well documented hence the reason we are au fait with our ancestry.

Now where did Turks descend from? . . . . someone find some credible sources. :roll:

Backtrack from the trail of destruction left in your paths. :wink: That should help.
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Postby zan » Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:00 pm

phoenix wrote:I wish someone would tell me where on Earth Turks were spawned and stop reciting our own history which is well documented hence the reason we are au fait with our ancestry.

Now where did Turks descend from? . . . . someone find some credible sources. :roll:

Backtrack from the trail of destruction left in your paths. :wink: That should help.


Heres is one interpretation........How much prouder can a person get is what I want to know.....I could fit the world under my arms..... 8)
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Postby Salonikios » Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:55 pm

If for exaple i come and live on the island in how much time will i receive citizenship voting rights etc.Does anybody knows :?:
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