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[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint said"

"You really need to realize that the EU card will no solve your problems, the EU still bear a grudge for your rejection of the AP and entering the EU as a divided island with all the problems that entails and over the years they will learn about GC intrangience first hand. Papadop did not get you into the EU, he will go down in history as the leader that cried to get his people to reject the only plan that was put to the people.

Where as the EU gotten you over the past 3 years, nowhere they have passed the back to the UN, where you will find the AP that you have demonized as the basis for any future negotiaitons but even the UN are not interested in dealing with GCs who work on plans only to reject them and ridicule the UN."

Well VP, actually the EU in the last three years has gotten us quite far in ways few of us coul dhave foreseen. The Green Line regulations reinforce the RoC. The rejection of the EU acquis bty the north does the same, as it makes the RoC the only EU territory on the island that applies EU regulations. The VAT system for the day traders that come to the south reinforce the status of RoC as a state and weaken the north that does not want to apply VAT.

You say the EU has no interest in Cyprus. But the EU is involved in Cyrus up to its neck- Greece and the UK, two of the guarantor powers that must sign any agreement are both members of the EU. Cyprus is an EU full member. Whether anyone likes it or not Cyprus is now an EU matter and that is what Pap wanted and that is what he got. Turkey is the only player in the Cyprus issue who is not an EU member but wants to become one.

So? the question still remains you are no closer to a solution than you were before the EU who have told you they cannot solve anything go to the UN, so where has the EU got you? Ill tell you nowhere.

The green line only reconfirms the border between 2 countries and you have carried one major headache into the EU. Countries have already stated your entry was a big mistake and the resentment will grow over the coming years as the GC dig their heals in with regards to agreeing a solution showing that they are the intrangient side yet again who are not interested in compromise in the EU spirit.

Dont forget Papadop did not get you into the EU, he was handed it on a plate others did all the work.

Who said we dont pat VAT?

[Nikitas]

You do not have a VAT system VP. That is why the RoC was forced by the EU to set up a system for the day traders that come south to sell their goods.

As for the rest you should do some research. No country was expressed an opinion about Cyprus being allowed to join before a solution. Some individual MEPs have said so. As for the entry into the EU being the work of others, yes it was, mostly the work of one Cypriot man called Yannos Kranidiotis.

[Viewpoint]

You do not have a VAT system VP. That is why the RoC was forced by the EU to set up a system for the day traders that come south to sell their goods.

As for the rest you should do some research. No country was expressed an opinion about Cyprus being allowed to join before a solution. Some individual MEPs have said so. As for the entry into the EU being the work of others, yes it was, mostly the work of one Cypriot man called Yannos Kranidiotis.

We pay VAT on all goods bought and sold in the TRNC. You do not reocgnize our VAT system thats why it caused you problems.

A few MEPs today but they voice what others think and are an indication of the resentment brewing towards your very uneuropean handling of the Cyprus problem.

[Kikapu]

Feable excuse, you do not have a clue about TCs and I still stand firm that you are not one.

...............you don't believe I'm a TC and you call me clueless.

For your information, there are thousands of TC's who have not or refuses to visit the "TRNC" for one reason or another. One does not need to visit the "TRNC" to be a TC, only the settlers need to be in the "TRNC" to obtain a TC status......illegally.

The "TRNC" is not the MECCA , where a trip is required at least once in the life of a True Moslem.

The "TRNC" has a long way to go to have the same importace as the MECCA.

Perhaps if you pray hard enough, you might make all the True TC's to come and visit the "TRNC" at least once in their lives, if the "TRNC" lasts long enough that is.

The above post says it all and proves my point..you are no more TC than I am GC.

You are not even capable of proving which is the MOON and which is the SUN in order to prove or disprove in anything that I write.

Here is a hint for you. The one with a cresent on occasions is NOT the SUN.

Why are you ashamed to admit you are a GC?

Trust me, If I were a Greek Cypriot, I would be very proud to admit that I was one, as the case should be with every Nationality or ethnic group.

I'm a proud Cypriot and a proud Turkish Cypriot, which once again makes me a PROUD CYPRIOT.

You on the other hand is a "Charlie" or better known as B.B.C.

Thank you for allowing me to clear the air, as to who is what.

[Viewpoint]

Feable excuse, you do not have a clue about TCs and I still stand firm that you are not one.

...............you don't believe I'm a TC and you call me clueless.

For your information, there are thousands of TC's who have not or refuses to visit the "TRNC" for one reason or another. One does not need to visit the "TRNC" to be a TC, only the settlers need to be in the "TRNC" to obtain a TC status......illegally.

The "TRNC" is not the MECCA , where a trip is required at least once in the life of a True Moslem.

The "TRNC" has a long way to go to have the same importace as the MECCA.

Perhaps if you pray hard enough, you might make all the True TC's to come and visit the "TRNC" at least once in their lives, if the "TRNC" lasts long enough that is.

The above post says it all and proves my point..you are no more TC than I am GC.

You are not even capable of proving which is the MOON and which is the SUN in order to prove or disprove in anything that I write.

Here is a hint for you. The one with a cresent on occasions is NOT the SUN.

Why are you ashamed to admit you are a GC?

Trust me, If I were a Greek Cypriot, I would be very proud to admit that I was one, as the case should be with every Nationality or ethnic group.

I'm a proud Cypriot and a proud Turkish Cypriot, which once again makes me a PROUD CYPRIOT.

You on the other hand is a "Charlie" or better known as B.B.C.

Thank you for allowing me to clear the air, as to who is what.

Clear the air, you have just put forward what you claim, whether this is fact is up to you to prove it if you feel so inclined as you have to accept that I as a TC and I am certain many others will never consider you a TC, you arguments give the exact characteristics of a GC posing as a TC to try and undermine and insult not only our viewpoint but also us as individuals.

[boomerang]

is this for real?

The last poll in the nth showed you where you stand...

Wake up damn it, foreigners are running your domain and you sit there and dispute kikapu...go figure...

[Kikapu]

Feable excuse, you do not have a clue about TCs and I still stand firm that you are not one.

...............you don't believe I'm a TC and you call me clueless.

For your information, there are thousands of TC's who have not or refuses to visit the "TRNC" for one reason or another. One does not need to visit the "TRNC" to be a TC, only the settlers need to be in the "TRNC" to obtain a TC status......illegally.

The "TRNC" is not the MECCA , where a trip is required at least once in the life of a True Moslem.

The "TRNC" has a long way to go to have the same importace as the MECCA.

Perhaps if you pray hard enough, you might make all the True TC's to come and visit the "TRNC" at least once in their lives, if the "TRNC" lasts long enough that is.

The above post says it all and proves my point..you are no more TC than I am GC.

You are not even capable of proving which is the MOON and which is the SUN in order to prove or disprove in anything that I write.

Here is a hint for you. The one with a cresent on occasions is NOT the SUN.

Why are you ashamed to admit you are a GC?

Trust me, If I were a Greek Cypriot, I would be very proud to admit that I was one, as the case should be with every Nationality or ethnic group.

I'm a proud Cypriot and a proud Turkish Cypriot, which once again makes me a PROUD CYPRIOT.

You on the other hand is a "Charlie" or better known as B.B.C.

Thank you for allowing me to clear the air, as to who is what.

Clear the air, you have just put forward what you claim, whether this is fact is up to you to prove it if you feel so inclined as you have to accept that I as a TC and I am certain many others will never consider you a TC, you arguments give the exact characteristics of a GC posing as a TC to try and undermine and insult not only our viewpoint but also us as individuals.

Just because I do not belong in your inner circle of "Corrupted Individual TC's" which is the only criteria that you are using as to who is a TC and who is not is a very weak method of believing one's claim as to who they are..

I'm afraid, you have set the BAR very very high for me to meet in order to convince you that I'm a TC.

Will you confirm to us, that you are a "Charlie" and a B.B.C.

In anycase, you were challenged to meet with me before in Cyprus, and you had refused. Now go and continue licking your wounds for missing that opportunity.

Once again, this is very fitting for you, so here it is again.

You are not even capable of proving which is the MOON and which is the SUN in order to prove or disprove in anything that I write.

Here is a hint for you. The one with a cresent on occasions is NOT the SUN.

[Viewpoint]

You were the one who was to scared to cross into the north not the other way around and if you remember I challenged you all to meet if you donated money to charity after which you all backed out like the cowards you are.

[boomerang]

and here is VP's favourite game... ...say nothing more...

[Daemon]

After 20-30 years and after the final Cyprus Turkifisation some zombies will be still trying to clear the shits on their head about the Anan plan. This is the only thing they can manage with their dead brains.