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[Kikapu]

Have you been to the TRNC? have you interacted with TCs in their own environment? NO.

The British living in the TRNC are more TC than you will ever be, you a diluted individual who had lived away from Cyprus for so long that makes you a foreigner, a charlie as your GC brothers what that means.

Have you been to the TRNC? have you interacted with TCs in their own environment? NO.

If I may take a line from a movie, and that would be "I don't need to stick my head up a cow's ass, to see if the meat is fresh". :lol:

The British living in the TRNC are more TC than you will ever be, you a diluted individual who had lived away from Cyprus for so long that makes you a foreigner, a charlie as your GC brothers what that means

The only "Charlie" I know on the Forum VP, happens to be you, so perhaps it is you who needs to ask the question as to what that word means.

[Kikapu]

If I may take a line from a movie, and that would be "I don't need to stick my head up a cow's ass, to see if the meat is fresh".

How about getting your arse fucked by a Jamaican? That should give you a pretty good idea as to how we would feel in the type of Cyprus you want the TCs to be living in.

We all know that you are also a racist towards Blacks as well as towards the GC's, since you have already told us before, that "you would rather marry a Jamaican than a GC".

You were just trying to kill two birds with the same "Racist Stone" with your above quote from the past.

[Nikitas]

Bananiot in his post above implies that Cyprus is not able to block Turkey's entry into the EU.

Well, it is not a goal of Cyprus EU policy to block Turkey. It has not used its veto once during the talks conerning Turkey's accession process. The EU itself in its periodic reviews of Turkey's progress notes whether that country has or has not met the standards set for accession. Failing to recognise the RoC is an example of failure to comply with EU standards and Cyprus has nothing to do with it directly.

Both Cyprus and Greece have stated publicly and often that it is in their interests to have Turkey turned into a fully europeanised nation that abides by EU laws.

So this idea of using the EU membership as a tool to coerce Turkey into conessions in Cyprus is baseless.

On the other hand, using EU membership to modify the BBF solution is an intelligent choice. The Annan plan contained a myriad details that clash with EU acquis and go against GC interests. It is arguable, and very reasonably so, that any new proposal will be based on the Annan plan. Yes, but not as it was, and most likely with many provisions changed to fit in with EU standards, and that is a plus for all Cypriots. The EU is now by definition a participant in the process and also by definition a majority participant as three out of the four entities involved (Cyprus, Greece, UK) are full members of the EU. Britain now will not be able to play its undermining role as it did in the past.

This is what Papadopoulos has achieved. On the other hand it may be a collective success, as decisions regarding the Cyprus issue in the south are collective and taken by the National Council in which all parties are members, indluding Mr Cleridis' party.

[Viewpoint]

Have you been to the TRNC? have you interacted with TCs in their own environment? NO.

The British living in the TRNC are more TC than you will ever be, you a diluted individual who had lived away from Cyprus for so long that makes you a foreigner, a charlie as your GC brothers what that means.

Have you been to the TRNC? have you interacted with TCs in their own environment? NO.

If I may take a line from a movie, and that would be "I don't need to stick my head up a cow's ass, to see if the meat is fresh". :lol:

The British living in the TRNC are more TC than you will ever be, you a diluted individual who had lived away from Cyprus for so long that makes you a foreigner, a charlie as your GC brothers what that means

The only "Charlie" I know on the Forum VP, happens to be you, so perhaps it is you who needs to ask the question as to what that word means.

Feable excuse, you do not have a clue about TCs and I still stand firm that you are not one, the fact that you have not been to the TRNC confirms that your point of view is very secondary, based purely on other people accounts and influence on your own weak mindset. You have made your choice allow others the right to do the same,you can side with who ever you wish but you have no right to drag others into a situation where they will be left at the mercy of vengence seeking GCs from the comfort of your armchair thousands of miles away.

The TRNC is my country of residence and where I pay taxes and vote, how about you? you are the charlie who lives abroad making you a foreigner, theres a big difference but of course you are a person that could never see this.

[Viewpoint]

Bananiot in his post above implies that Cyprus is not able to block Turkey's entry into the EU.

Well, it is not a goal of Cyprus EU policy to block Turkey. It has not used its veto once during the talks conerning Turkey's accession process. The EU itself in its periodic reviews of Turkey's progress notes whether that country has or has not met the standards set for accession. Failing to recognise the RoC is an example of failure to comply with EU standards and Cyprus has nothing to do with it directly.

Both Cyprus and Greece have stated publicly and often that it is in their interests to have Turkey turned into a fully europeanised nation that abides by EU laws.

So this idea of using the EU membership as a tool to coerce Turkey into conessions in Cyprus is baseless.

On the other hand, using EU membership to modify the BBF solution is an intelligent choice. The Annan plan contained a myriad details that clash with EU acquis and go against GC interests. It is arguable, and very reasonably so, that any new proposal will be based on the Annan plan. Yes, but not as it was, and most likely with many provisions changed to fit in with EU standards, and that is a plus for all Cypriots. The EU is now by definition a participant in the process and also by definition a majority participant as three out of the four entities involved (Cyprus, Greece, UK) are full members of the EU. Britain now will not be able to play its undermining role as it did in the past.

This is what Papadopoulos has achieved. On the other hand it may be a collective success, as decisions regarding the Cyprus issue in the south are collective and taken by the National Council in which all parties are members, indluding Mr Cleridis' party.

You really need to realize that the EU card will no solve your problems, the EU still bear a grudge for your rejection of the AP and entering the EU as a divided island with all the problems that entails and over the years they will learn about GC intrangience first hand. Papadop did not get you into the EU, he will go down in history as the leader that cried to get his people to reject the only plan that was put to the people.

Where as the EU gotten you over the past 3 years, nowhere they have passed the back to the UN, where you will find the AP that you have demonized as the basis for any future negotiaitons but even the UN are not interested in dealing with GCs who work on plans only to reject them and ridicule the UN.

[Kikapu]

Feable excuse, you do not have a clue about TCs and I still stand firm that you are not one.

...............you don't believe I'm a TC and you call me clueless.

For your information, there are thousands of TC's who have not or refuses to visit the "TRNC" for one reason or another. One does not need to visit the "TRNC" to be a TC, only the settlers need to be in the "TRNC" to obtain a TC status......illegally.

The "TRNC" is not the MECCA , where a trip is required at least once in the life of a True Moslem.

The "TRNC" has a long way to go to have the same importace as the MECCA.

Perhaps if you pray hard enough, you might make all the True TC's to come and visit the "TRNC" at least once in their lives, if the "TRNC" lasts long enough that is.

[Viewpoint]

Feable excuse, you do not have a clue about TCs and I still stand firm that you are not one.

...............you don't believe I'm a TC and you call me clueless.

For your information, there are thousands of TC's who have not or refuses to visit the "TRNC" for one reason or another. One does not need to visit the "TRNC" to be a TC, only the settlers need to be in the "TRNC" to obtain a TC status......illegally.

The "TRNC" is not the MECCA , where a trip is required at least once in the life of a True Moslem.

The "TRNC" has a long way to go to have the same importace as the MECCA.

Perhaps if you pray hard enough, you might make all the True TC's to come and visit the "TRNC" at least once in their lives, if the "TRNC" lasts long enough that is.

The above post says it all and proves my point..you are no more TC than I am GC.

[Kikapu]

Feable excuse, you do not have a clue about TCs and I still stand firm that you are not one.

...............you don't believe I'm a TC and you call me clueless.

For your information, there are thousands of TC's who have not or refuses to visit the "TRNC" for one reason or another. One does not need to visit the "TRNC" to be a TC, only the settlers need to be in the "TRNC" to obtain a TC status......illegally.

The "TRNC" is not the MECCA , where a trip is required at least once in the life of a True Moslem.

The "TRNC" has a long way to go to have the same importace as the MECCA.

Perhaps if you pray hard enough, you might make all the True TC's to come and visit the "TRNC" at least once in their lives, if the "TRNC" lasts long enough that is.

The above post says it all and proves my point..you are no more TC than I am GC.

You are not even capable of proving which is the MOON and which is the SUN in order to prove or disprove in anything that I write.

Here is a hint for you. The one with a cresent on occasions is NOT the SUN.

[Nikitas]

Viewpoint said"

"You really need to realize that the EU card will no solve your problems, the EU still bear a grudge for your rejection of the AP and entering the EU as a divided island with all the problems that entails and over the years they will learn about GC intrangience first hand. Papadop did not get you into the EU, he will go down in history as the leader that cried to get his people to reject the only plan that was put to the people.

Where as the EU gotten you over the past 3 years, nowhere they have passed the back to the UN, where you will find the AP that you have demonized as the basis for any future negotiaitons but even the UN are not interested in dealing with GCs who work on plans only to reject them and ridicule the UN."

Well VP, actually the EU in the last three years has gotten us quite far in ways few of us coul dhave foreseen. The Green Line regulations reinforce the RoC. The rejection of the EU acquis bty the north does the same, as it makes the RoC the only EU territory on the island that applies EU regulations. The VAT system for the day traders that come to the south reinforce the status of RoC as a state and weaken the north that does not want to apply VAT.

You say the EU has no interest in Cyprus. But the EU is involved in Cyrus up to its neck- Greece and the UK, two of the guarantor powers that must sign any agreement are both members of the EU. Cyprus is an EU full member. Whether anyone likes it or not Cyprus is now an EU matter and that is what Pap wanted and that is what he got. Turkey is the only player in the Cyprus issue who is not an EU member but wants to become one.

[Viewpoint]

Feable excuse, you do not have a clue about TCs and I still stand firm that you are not one.

...............you don't believe I'm a TC and you call me clueless.

For your information, there are thousands of TC's who have not or refuses to visit the "TRNC" for one reason or another. One does not need to visit the "TRNC" to be a TC, only the settlers need to be in the "TRNC" to obtain a TC status......illegally.

The "TRNC" is not the MECCA , where a trip is required at least once in the life of a True Moslem.

The "TRNC" has a long way to go to have the same importace as the MECCA.

Perhaps if you pray hard enough, you might make all the True TC's to come and visit the "TRNC" at least once in their lives, if the "TRNC" lasts long enough that is.

The above post says it all and proves my point..you are no more TC than I am GC.

You are not even capable of proving which is the MOON and which is the SUN in order to prove or disprove in anything that I write.

Here is a hint for you. The one with a cresent on occasions is NOT the SUN.

Why are you ashamed to admit you are a GC?