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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:54 am

Article 32 Central Bank of Cyprus
1. The Central Bank of Cyprus shall be the monetary authority of the United
Cyprus Republic. It shall issue currency, define and implement
monetary policy and regulate and supervise credit institutions.
2. The Central Bank shall be independent from other arms of the federal
government and operate in accordance with European Union
requirements.
3. The primary objective of the Central Bank of Cyprus shall be to maintain
price stability.
4. The organs of the Central Bank shall be the Governor and the Deputy-
Governor, the Board of Directors and the Monetary Policy Committee.
Their composition shall be as follows:
a. The Governor and Deputy Governor shall not hail from the same
constituent state. They shall be appointed by the Presidential
Council;
b. The Board of Directors shall consist of five members, including the
Governor and Deputy Governor, with at least two members hailing
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from each constituent state. One member may be a non-Cypriot;
and
c. The Monetary Policy Committee shall consist of seven members,
including the Governor and the Deputy Governor, as well as any non-
Cypriot member of the Board of Directors, with at least three
members hailing from each constituent state.
All decisions of the Board of Directors and the Monetary Policy
Committee shall be taken by simple majority. The law shall otherwise
regulate the appointment of members to the organs of the Central Bank
and their decision-making procedures.
5. The Governor and Deputy Governor shall be appointed for a term of
seven years. The other members of the Board of Directors shall be
appointed for a term of five years, and the other members of the
Monetary Policy Committee for a term of seven years.
6. Within the framework of the European Union the responsibilities and
powers of the Central Bank of Cyprus may be transferred to the
European Central Bank.
7. The law may provide for the establishment of branches of the Central
Bank in each constituent state, and for inclusion of branch directors in
the Board of Directors of the Central Bank.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:39 pm

It is with great sadness that I have personally come to the conclusion that there is no possibility for the Cyprus problem to be solved along the lines of a so-called bi-zonal and bi-communal federation and on the basis of a political equality partnership deal between the GC and the TC communities. The reason for this is due to the fact that the two communities are largely incompatible to each other, and there is absolutely no relationship between their ideological orientations and world view!

The vast majority of the members of the TC community are literally brainwashed and fully subscribe to the kemalist ideology, a totalitarian nationalist ideology based on the “ideas” and “doctrines” of a dictator that died some decades ago, and which in particular is completely intolerable to anyone non-Turkish in terms of ethnic consciousness! I have reached to the conclusion that it is impossible for the TC community to abandon this ideology, and therefore there is no meaning in having any partnership relationship with them, as it is doomed to eventually fail, with all the unpleasant consequences that will emerge due to the dissolution and abandonment of the RoC in favor of such a “virgin-birth” uncertain new state of affairs!

It is impossible for the GC community to consider any of its members living under the authority of a state subscribing to such an ideology, centered around the principles of the father of the Turks (Ataturk,) and therefore there is also no meaning in having any partnership agreement with them; if this will give them the ownership of as much as 30% of the area and 50% of the coastlines of Cyprus (a proportion of the country they do not historically and /or demographically legitimately own,) plus sharing with them the international sovereignty, status and personality of the whole of Cyprus (central government!)

It is with great sadness that I have personally come to the conclusion that only two options are left for us (GCs) to consider! The first is that the Cyprus problem will have to unfortunately be solved via a new bloodshed at some stage in the future! The second one is to negotiate partition on the basis of historical and demographic rights and considerations -at worst for the GCs on the basis of an 80:20 split! Unfortunately there is no other way out, and therefore we GCs have to be prepared for any of the only two options!

Truly sad, for I was always in favor of a one united Cyprus –even under a federal roof, a home for all the Greek and Turkish Cypriots that would be able to live harmoniously among themselves and with all their cultural rights and ethnic dignity fully respected and observed, as equal citizens to each other! Unfortunately, the TC community (the vast majority of it) -due to its outdated kemalist ideological orientation, is invalid for such a sharing and cohabitation with any other community! :(
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:43 pm

Kifeas, you have not surprised me. I have known this all along.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:49 pm

Bananiot wrote:Kifeas, you have not surprised me. I have known this all along.


Bananiot,

But you have also subscribed to the Annan Plan as the answer for a solution, which was built around BBF, which is what Kifeas is talking about, as not being workable..
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:50 pm

Bananiot wrote:Kifeas, you have not surprised me. I have known this all along.


Intelligent people speak with valid arguments! Idiots speak with slogans!

You are a man of empty slogans and very little to none valid arguments!
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:56 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Kifeas, you have not surprised me. I have known this all along.


Bananiot,

But you have also subscribed to the Annan Plan as the answer for a solution, which was built around BBF, which is what Kifeas is talking about, as not being workable..


Bananiot beilives that as long as he can go with his friend Halil to Hassan's tavern and eat "kelle" together, that is all he needs or is required as a solution of the Cyprus problem!
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:00 pm

The only slogans I have seen came in your last post Kifeas. You finally came to the conlusion that we only have two options in front of us, (a) bloodshed and (b) negotiated partition and you based this on your idea that Kemalism is the source of all evil.

Allow me to think that there is not an ounce of intelligent argument in your last post.
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:04 pm

Actually it is Kemal but that is immaterial, isn't it? The intelligent part is that you have finally realised that it is either bloodshed or partition. Unbelievable!
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Postby boomerang » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:04 pm

Those 2 options might be what is unfortunately left due to the tcs inability to comprehend what a true federal system is and how much of a comprimise from our part that is...
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:05 pm

I bet all the partitionists will come clean now.
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