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[Nikitas]

Small but important detail about "retaliating" against Cyprus by recognising the TRNC- to do so would recognise and approve the expropriation of properties belonging to EU citizens, it would also involve flouting UN resolutions and decisions of the ECHR, the EUROPEAN court of human rights. It would also be the death knell for Turkey's EU membership as not only Cyprus but other countries in the EU would used such recognition to stop Turkey's progress dead in its tracks directly and indirctely by bringing up the Kurdish and other issues.

Utu, you are confusing the lifting of "isolations" as recognition, and the two are not the same.

As for Kosovo the majority of the inhabitants are Albanians, who have not expropriated anyone's land and the recognition is conditional on the human rights of the non Albanians being protected.

[BC Numismatics]

Utu,I am a very fierce anti-Communist,which is why I support the recognition of Taiwan,Somaliland,& the Principality of Hutt River.

As to the situation in Cyprus,I would support the recognition of a Federal Republic of Cyprus in which there is a federal government in Nicosia & the island being divided up into self-governing provinces along the lines of Canada,in which each province would have their own legislature passing its own laws.

The Principality of Hutt River is an independent state that seceded from Australia back in 1970.Here's a link; www.principality-hutt-river.com .

Aidan.

[utu]

Utu,I am a very fierce anti-Communist,which is why I support the recognition of Taiwan,Somaliland,& the Principality of Hutt River.

As to the situation in Cyprus,I would support the recognition of a Federal Republic of Cyprus in which there is a federal government in Nicosia & the island being divided up into self-governing provinces along the lines of Canada,in which each province would have their own legislature passing its own laws.

The Principality of Hutt River is an independent state that seceded from Australia back in 1970.Here's a link; www.principality-hutt-river.com .

Aidan.

How do you regard Sealand, Transdnistra, and South Ossetia, as a matter of interest?

[BC Numismatics]

Sealand is independent,although there is no longer a permanent population living on there.Transdniester is legitimately part of Moldova,& South Ossetia is part of Georgia,as is Abkhazia.

Sealand is an old radar platform that is located in the North Sea outside the territorial waters of the U.K..Here's a link; www.sealandgov.com .

Aidan.

[Expatkiwi]

So, Aidan. The other Kiwi is here. Judging from your posts in your chat with Utu, I can see we both have a lot in common (anti-communist, support independence for Taiwan, Somaliland, and Kosovo, but I see also that when it comes to TRNC, we differ. You have your reasons for disliking Turkey (and by the way, I do support an independent Kurdish State, and cession of certain territories to Armenia), but when it comes to the Turkish Cypriots, I am fully supportive of their right to self determination. Of course, I have earned the emnity of virtually everyone in this forum for that stance, but dems the breaks.

[BC Numismatics]

Expatkiwi,the so-called 'Turkish Republic of North Cyprus' is nothing short of being Turkey's pirate state,therefore,it isn't entitled to be regarded as a country under international convention.Turkey's illegal occupation of northern Cyprus has been condemned by not only by the U.N.,but also by the British Commonwealth itself.

Kosovo is entitled to be regarded as an independent state,as it has been self-governing under a U.N. protectorate since 1999.

Somaliland,on the other hand,has been independent since 1991.The closest thing to international recognition that it has had has been its ties to the National Assembly for Wales.The British Commonwealth should have admitted this country instead of admitting Cameroon & Mozambique (who were never part of the British Empire).I reckon that there should be some High Commissions opened in Hargeisa.I don't know how many High Commissions there are in Nicosia,but I know for a fact that New Zealand doesn't have a High Commission in Cyprus.

Aidan.

[Expatkiwi]

Aidan,

If it wasn't for Turkey's 'illegal' intervention, there would be no Turkish Cypriot presence left on that island, and Cyprus would be part of the Hellenic Republic. Nikos Sampson made that VERY clear.

Dean (Expatkiwi)

[BC Numismatics]

Dean,both Greece & Turkey are equally to blame for using Cyprus as a battleground.Nikos Sampson was a maniac supported by the Colonels who declared Greece to be a banana republic in 1973.Makarios was more reasonable,as he had the hindsight to see what a braindead pipedream 'enosis' was.He actually resented the interference of the Greek politicians in Cyprus' internal affairs.Makarios was actually supported by Great Britain after independence.That is a reason why the British still rule the Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri & Dhekelia.The British were the best colonial rulers in Cyprus,despite what everyone else here thinks.

Aidan.

[Bill]

.That is a reason why the British still rule the Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri & Dhekelia.
Aidan.

No it isn't ~ Britain retained the base area's because it needed a military area near the Middle East and more importantly a listening post close to the then USSR ~ the bases in Cyprus were already set up for this ~ supporting Makarios or indeed Cyprus was never part of the equation.

You may have enjoyed being part of the colonies but there are lots of places that didn't .

Bill

[BC Numismatics]

Bill,Cyprus was better off under British rule than it was under the Venetians & the Ottoman Empire.If it wasn't for the British,there wouldn't even be a country called Cyprus today.

The British Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri & Dhekelia are legally British colonies,as are the Falkland Islands & Gibraltar.

Although I live in New Zealand,I am still a very fierce British Commonwealth nationalist who believes that both Cameroon & Mozambique should be expelled from the British Commonwealth,& that both Somaliland & Ireland should be admitted back into the British Commonwealth,along with Zimbabwe,once Robert 'Crackpot Bob' Mugabe & his subhuman Z.A.N.U.-P.F. regime are overthrown.

Aidan.