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Kosovo: An example to be followed?

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Postby boomerang » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:10 am

BC Numismatics wrote:Utu,that is the Eureka Stockade flag.The Aussie republicans (who are dimwits,by the way!) want to dump the current flag & adopt a design based on the Eureka Stockade flag.

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Postby BC Numismatics » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:19 am

Boomerang,YOU really are a dickhead as well as a wanker!

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Postby boomerang » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:32 am

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WOW ...this statement make me laugh !!!

Postby itec » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:38 am

[quote= Nikitas,Kosovo was not always part of Serbia prior to 1999.In fact,Kosovo was part of Albania during World War II.Kosovo has 2 things in common with both Albania & Bosnia-Hercegovina - countries with a Muslim majority population,& they are located in Europe.They'd definitely qualify for admission into the E.U..Serbia has got a lot to answer for as far as Kosovo goes.There's a lot of subhuman racist scum up in Serbia.

Turkey,on the other hand,doesn't qualify for E.U. membership at all.For a start,Turkey is a Middle Eastern country like Iran & Iraq.It would be a hypocritical situation if Turkey was ever allowed to join the E.U.,as it would be a farcical situation of one E.U. member state refusing to recognise another E.U. member state.

Aidan.[/quote]

First of all Kosovo has been always a legal part of Serbia since 6th century(Kingdom of Serbia, Kingdom of Yugoslavia after Wordl War I, Republic of Serbia since 1946 (under Tito's communist regime). After the Wordl War II, Kosovo becames the Autonomy Province of Serbia with local Goverment, Parliament...until 1999. Because of the "Humanitarian Intervention" - (It was a LIE) and excuse for bombing Serbia by NATO. Today Kosovo is under the protectorate of U.N. according the resolution 1244 which says that the Soutern Province of Kosovo is stll legal part of the Republic of Serbia (former Federal Rep. of Yugoslavia). So, international and EU Law says - the part of Serbia.

ONLY security council of UN will be in a position to change this resolution, but not local government in Kosovo so called "Albanian's majority".
So, Kosovo's Unilateral Declaration of Independence would be ILLEGAL and will be cancelled by Serbian Government according to the Serbian constitutional Law.

Second, in regard to Bosnia and Herzegovina... This the country under protectorate by EU (Office of High Commisioner). IT IS NOT TRUE, that there is a muslim's majority. There are : Serbs (Orthodox Christians), Croats (Catolic Christians) and Bosnian-Muslims - minority.
In the reality Bosnia is the country on the paper, because of the protectorate of the EU. They are so far for admission into the EU. They are no signed any kind of official agreement to the EU such as "Agreement for Association and Stabilization with EU... it is first Agreement, secon step is obtaining status - the Candidate for EU memberships ( for example like Croatia, Serbia it will be expected in January 28th, 2008)

Serbia is a democratic country member of the European Concil, UN, in the near future the full member of the EU. During the first and second war Serbia has been member of ANTIFASCISM coalition against (Hitler-Musolini). What about Albania, Turkey,(which side they are supported)...? How can be Serbian people Fascists/NAZI???? IT IS VERY FUNNY!!!!! HA, HA,....

Turkey will never qualify for E.U. membership because the EU has natural borders and they don't belong to the Western-European culture, mentality. Turkey is nice country but for holiday, located in the Middle East, simply it is not Europe.

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Postby BC Numismatics » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:46 am

Itec,Kosovo IS a U.N. protectorate,not a Serbian province.Bosnia-Hercegovina IS an independent country.It will be very good once Kosovo declares its independence,as it will finally put the failed pipedream of 'Yugoslavia' into the dustbin of history.

As for Serbia having fascists,this is true,as the late Slobodan Milosevic WAS a dyed-in-the-wool fascist.Ratko Mladic IS a fascist,as is Radovan Karadzic.They are also mass murderers responsibile for the barbarism that was committed at Srebrinica,Bosnia-Hercegovina in 1995.The abolition of the death penalty,especially for war crimes,WAS a mistake!

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Postby itec » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:06 am

BC Numismatics wrote:Itec,Kosovo IS a U.N. protectorate,not a Serbian province.Bosnia-Hercegovina IS an independent country.It will be very good once Kosovo declares its independence,as it will finally put the failed pipedream of 'Yugoslavia' into the dustbin of history.

As for Serbia having fascists,this is true,as the late Slobodan Milosevic WAS a dyed-in-the-wool fascist.Ratko Mladic IS a fascist,as is Radovan Karadzic.They are also mass murderers responsibile for the barbarism that was committed at Srebrinica,Bosnia-Hercegovina in 1995.The abolition of the death penalty,especially for war crimes,WAS a mistake!

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BC, let me to explane you some facts from the Balkans history. What does means a U.N. protectorate? Is it the country, space or something else....??? Everybody knows that Kosovo is the Southern Serbian Province under a U.N. protectorate since 1999. During the past Kosovo was a Serbia and as well in the big communist Yugoslavia (Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia). Kosovo has not been never in a position to become the "Republic" as others Yugoslavian Republics (Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro, FYR Macedonia...etc).

This is the BIG problem for Kosovar's Albanians. According international Law for ex-Yugoslavia, only the "Republics" above mantioned have a right to become the Independent countriese, BUT NOT KOSOVO, because Kosovo is only PROVINCE integrated in the teritory in the Republic of Serbia and nothing more than that!

Also, you are mantioned that Serbia having the facists. HA, HA, HA....I don't have coment to this, because it is nonsense...and before you put something on forum, please consult the historical facts. This is my advice t you.
Slobodan Milosevic, was the last communist leader in the South-Eastern Europe, and I don't care for Milosevic, as well islamic/nationalist Alija Izetbegovic (so called Bosnian-Muslim leader during the civil war in Bosnia) has been suspected by Intrnational Tribunal for ex Yugoslavia in Hague for CRIMES agains Serbs and Croats during the civil war.

Bosnia is the country under the E.U. protectorate and there was a CIVIL WAR. Ratko Mladic, Radovan Karadzic...are citizens of Bosnia, they are not citizens of Serbia. So, everybody is responsible for own things. What about crimes against Serbs in Sarajevo 1993, Kravice, Potochac...by Islamic/army (so called BH army in the name of Alah)???

What about the WAR CRIMES by Turkey against the Armenians during World War I ??? This is the real holocaust!!! What about the war crimes against the Kurds? And after all things the Turkey is "democratic country". HA, HA, HA....

This is the TRUE and everybody has right on the true. In the future I don't want to put any reply to this topic, because I prefer to make debate with competent persons (Facts and only FACTS!)

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Postby BC Numismatics » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:56 am

Itec,Alija Izetbegovic has been dead since 2003.Prior to 1989,Kosovo was a self-governing entity with its own legislature.Do you know who it was that was responsible for abolishing Kosovo's autonomy? The answer is - Slobodan Milosevic,as in the fascist who descended down into the Lake of Fire in Hell in early 2006 while being on trial in the Hague for crimes against humanity.

As soon as Kosovo is finally declared an independent republic,there's nothing that neither Serbia nor Russia can do to prevent this from happening.Serbia has been sticking its nose into the internal affairs of neighbouring countries for far too long.Serbia is still supporting a pirate entity in Bosnia-Hercegovina - Republika Srbska,which has been a conduit for arms smuggling,drug trafficking,& money laundering.I wouldn't be too surprised if Ratko Mladic & Radovan Karadzic are hiding in that part of Bosnia-Hercegovina.

Serbia's democratisation can only be completed with the restoration of the monarchy with King Alexander II of Serbia on the throne.He is the son of the late King Peter II of Yugoslavia (who died in 1970 in America as an unabdicated king).He lives in the Royal Palace in Belgrade.If & when Serbia does restore the monarchy,it could also spur a move to restore the Montenegrin monarchy as well.

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Postby Dave69 » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:18 am

Aidan,
I totally disagree with you about your claim that Somaliland should be an independent country. I have been visiting Somaliland as an humanitarian and relief worker since 1994 and was there during the inter Isaq civil war. First of all, the Isaq clan is not an ethnic but part of the Dir clan which live both in the North (Isaq, Samaron and Isse) and in the South, therefore they are not separate ethnic group---the Somali people as a whole are an ethnic group.
You also mentioned that Somaliland is based on the defunct British Somaliland borders and has re-asserted its independence. Well, as a matter of fact I have worked and traveled in the area and met with many different people who were there when the SNM (Isaq militia who fought against the Siad Barre regime) declared unilateral independence from the rest of Somalia. As you may know the Somaliland claims five regions out of the 18 regions in the Somali Republic and here is how the clans live in these regions: Awdal region is inhabited by the Samaron and Isse clans;North West and Togdher regions are inhabited by the Isaq clan; and the other two regions are inhabited by the Hartis ( Dhulbahante and Warsanageli--sho belong to the Darod clan). From this information you can understand that the Isaq's live 2 regions out of the five Somaliland regions and that is one of the factors they can not claim to have the backing of all the clans in terms of secession from the rest of Somalia.
The other thing you didn't mention is that Somaliland cannot be independent from Somalia without the blessing of the Somali government otherwise you'll see another round of wars and disasters. At the same time, Puntland (semi-autonomous state in the North East Somalia) is controlling the Sool and Sanaag regions (50%) of the land claimed by Somaliland and their is already tensions between the two states and may go to war any minute.
I have been reading several writings on this subject and here is one comprehensive document that can help you understand the whole package and how those who live in this area are against it:http://www.somaliunity.org/publications/The_Illusory_Somaliland__Satting_the_Record_Straight.pdf

To be continued......
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Postby BC Numismatics » Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:33 am

Dave,you are sadly ill-informed about what a hell-hole Somalia is.For starters,Somalia hasn't even had a proper government since 1991.Puntland IS part of Somalia,& is illegally occupying the provinces of Sanaag & Sool,which rightfully belong to Somaliland anyway.

Despite what a lot of people say,Somaliland's declaration of independence was not a unilateral one,as Somaliland's independence has been confirmed by way of national referenda,most recently in 2001.Therefore,Somaliland is legitimately an independent state,which should be admitted into full membership of the British Commonwealth.Somaliland doesn't even need to have permission from the Somalians to secede,because Somaliland HAS already seceded.

Somaliland has rebuilt itself from scratch.There are new buildings being built in places like Hargeisa,& the port town of Berbera is a very busy place,thanks to the imports from the Middle East & the exports from countries such as Ethiopia.

I am in touch with some members of the Somaliland community over here in New Zealand,& they know that I am sympathetic to Somaliland's status as an independent country,considering that the Somalilanders also have their own traditional monarchs - Sultans.

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