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[Bananiot]

Annan Plan 5 gave 50 or so villages to the Greek Component State. It returned Morphou and Varosha to their rightful owners. The demilitarised zone was ours and regions of Karpasia gained an autonomous status. Large chunks of the bases were to be given back. A large number of settlers would leave Cyprus. The Turkish army would leave, bar a token force of 650 soldiers.

We did not take it because we were told that a better, european solution was waiting for us. Now, it is apparent that there will be no european solution as we were led to understand by Papadopoulos. Furthermore, many countries in the EU are openly calling for the Taiwinisation of the north as a starter.

[zan]

Annan Plan 5 gave 50 or so villages to the Greek Component State. It returned Morphou and Varosha to their rightful owners. The demilitarised zone was ours and regions of Karpasia gained an autonomous status. Large chunks of the bases were to be given back. A large number of settlers would leave Cyprus. The Turkish army would leave, bar a token force of 650 soldiers.

We did not take it because we were told that a better, european solution was waiting for us. Now, it is apparent that there will be no european solution as we were led to understand by Papadopoulos. Furthermore, many countries in the EU are openly calling for the Taiwinisation of the north as a starter.

I wonder why some people here do not hear anything you are saying Bananiot.....They must have that ringing in the ears called Tpinitus

[DT.]

Annan Plan 5 gave 50 or so villages to the Greek Component State. It returned Morphou and Varosha to their rightful owners. The demilitarised zone was ours and regions of Karpasia gained an autonomous status. Large chunks of the bases were to be given back. A large number of settlers would leave Cyprus. The Turkish army would leave, bar a token force of 650 soldiers.

We did not take it because we were told that a better, european solution was waiting for us. Now, it is apparent that there will be no european solution as we were led to understand by Papadopoulos. Furthermore, many countries in the EU are openly calling for the Taiwinisation of the north as a starter.

speak for yourself...I didn't take it because i judged it against the present situation and not a possible better future plan.

[zan]

Annan Plan 5 gave 50 or so villages to the Greek Component State. It returned Morphou and Varosha to their rightful owners. The demilitarised zone was ours and regions of Karpasia gained an autonomous status. Large chunks of the bases were to be given back. A large number of settlers would leave Cyprus. The Turkish army would leave, bar a token force of 650 soldiers.

We did not take it because we were told that a better, european solution was waiting for us. Now, it is apparent that there will be no european solution as we were led to understand by Papadopoulos. Furthermore, many countries in the EU are openly calling for the Taiwinisation of the north as a starter.

speak for yourself...I didn't take it because i judged it against the present situation and not a possible better future plan.

Move along please...Nothing to see here...Only DT changing his tack.....

[DT.]

Annan Plan 5 gave 50 or so villages to the Greek Component State. It returned Morphou and Varosha to their rightful owners. The demilitarised zone was ours and regions of Karpasia gained an autonomous status. Large chunks of the bases were to be given back. A large number of settlers would leave Cyprus. The Turkish army would leave, bar a token force of 650 soldiers.

We did not take it because we were told that a better, european solution was waiting for us. Now, it is apparent that there will be no european solution as we were led to understand by Papadopoulos. Furthermore, many countries in the EU are openly calling for the Taiwinisation of the north as a starter.

speak for yourself...I didn't take it because i judged it against the present situation and not a possible better future plan.

Move along please...Nothing to see here...Only DT changing his tack.....

you crack me up old timer

[Bananiot]

The present situation is better, are you saying, than the solution offered by the Annan Plan? Do you think the present situation will stay for ever?

[DT.]

The present situation is better, are you saying, than the solution offered by the Annan Plan? Do you think the present situation will stay for ever?

The present situation is far better than the annan plan and we can break this down on a point by point basis again if you wish. As for leaving things as they are and how permanent they can be...the one thing you have not got now is our willingful signature and subsequent legalisation of the occupation. This will not happen, this EU member has nothing to fear for its own sovereignty now.

[observer]

DT wrote.

"The present situation is far better than the annan plan and we can break this down on a point by point basis again if you wish. As for leaving things as they are and how permanent they can be...the one thing you have not got now is our willingful signature and subsequent legalisation of the occupation. This will not happen, this EU member has nothing to fear for its own sovereignty now."

With a few word changes this could have been written by a TC strongly in favour of partition.

[observer]

Just to show how (and not my view):

The present situation is far better than the annan plan and we can break this down on a point by point basis again if you wish. As for leaving things as they are and how permanent they can be...the one thing you have not got now is our willingful signature and subsequent legalisation of a GC dominated RoC government. This will not happen, the TRNC has nothing to fear for its own sovereignty now."

[Nikitas]

"Large chunks of the bases were to be given back." said Bananiot.

Really! Which chunks off which base? I have studied the maps annexed to the plan and see no changes in the SBAs perimeters. Instead the plan foresaw the creation of flyovers or underpasses and the "unhindered" access to the part of the GC component state that was cut off by the Dekhelia base.

Please clarify.